Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?

2003-07-30 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Angus" == Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Angus> At Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:44:13 +1000, Steven Kowalik wrote:
>> At 6:50 pm, Monday, July 28 2003, Kevin Saenz mumbled: > Just
>> wondering if anyone has started playing with > 2.6.0 kernel? What's
>> it like?
>> > 
>> I have. It's ... different. It uses modprobe.conf, rather than
>> modules.conf, PCMCIA requires tweaking, and X doesn't work. And
>> I've panic'd it twice. Oh well.

Angus> I was going to say I hadn't noticed any difference - but I just
Angus> tried getting X to work and I can't find the right module to
Angus> make /dev/psaux work :(

/dev/psaux doesn't work anymore if you have a synaptics touchpad.  You
need to use the new event handling interface instead.

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Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?

2003-07-28 Thread Steve Kowalik
At  2:28 pm, Tuesday, July 29 2003, Angus Lees mumbled:
> The Debian ALSA (user-space) packages don't yet cope with
> modprobe.conf transparently either (/me pokes stevenk)
> 
Support for module-init-tools is coming as I find time. Linda 0.3 is being a
harsh mistress is demanding lots of attention currently.

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Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?

2003-07-28 Thread Angus Lees
At Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:05:35 +1000, Andrew Bennetts wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 09:03:05PM +, Angus Lees wrote:
> > I was going to say I hadn't noticed any difference - but I just tried
> > getting X to work and I can't find the right module to make /dev/psaux
> > work :(
> 
> I'm guessing that maybe the new HID stuff puts the mouse device at
> /dev/input/mouse0 regradless of physical source/protocol?

i tried loading "psmouse", which seems to detect a "synaptics
touchpad" on my laptop (i presume this is correct).

this seems to be enough for X to open /dev/input/mice successfully -
although scratching the pad doesn't make the pointer move at all.

loading "mousedev" claims to have loaded a "PS/2 mouse device common
for all mice", but this doesn't seem to be sufficient for X to load
/dev/psaux (no such device).


The Debian ALSA (user-space) packages don't yet cope with
modprobe.conf transparently either (/me pokes stevenk)

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Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?

2003-07-28 Thread Jeff Waugh


> Maybe I'm dumb but I never saw any mention of reiserfs in 2.6.0 did they
> kill it from the kernel? I was only just reading about how fast reiserfs4
> is going to be.

Reiser3 is still in 2.6. Hans is trying to get Reiser4 in. Depending on how
much of an effect Andrew Morton (HOORAY FOR THE HOME TEAM) has on the
release process, I wouldn't be surprised if it's stalled until after they
stabilise (post 2.6.0 final).

But you're better off choosing ext3, jfs or xfs over reiserfs. :-)

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Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?

2003-07-28 Thread Kevin Saenz
Maybe I'm dumb but I never saw any mention of reiserfs in 2.6.0
did they kill it from the kernel? I was only just reading about
how fast reiserfs4 is going to be.

> 
> 
> > Just wondering if anyone has started playing with 2.6.0 kernel? What's it
> > like?
> 
> Check my X-Operating-System header. :-) Works well here (home desktop only),
> but there are some scheduling issues that make listening to ogg files and
> moving windows reasonably annoying. There have been some patches around to
> fix up those however, so I will probably try those and -test2 at some stage.
> 
> Ready-to-wear ALSA support is nice, and there are some nice optimisations
> throughout (especially if you're on SMP). See Joseph Pranevich's traditional
> "Wonderful World" document for more details:
> 
>   http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html
> 
> - Jeff
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Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?

2003-07-28 Thread Jeff Waugh


> > Check my X-Operating-System header. :-) Works well here (home desktop only),
> 
> I would check it, if it was there...

Turns out I don't send those headers to SLUG. :-)

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Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?

2003-07-28 Thread Andrew Bennetts
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 09:03:05PM +, Angus Lees wrote:
> At Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:44:13 +1000, Steven Kowalik wrote:
> > At  6:50 pm, Monday, July 28 2003, Kevin Saenz mumbled:
> > > Just wondering if anyone has started playing with
> > > 2.6.0 kernel? What's it like?
> > > 
> > I have. It's ... different. It uses modprobe.conf, rather than modules.conf,
> > PCMCIA requires tweaking, and X doesn't work. And I've panic'd it twice. Oh
> > well.
> 
> I was going to say I hadn't noticed any difference - but I just tried
> getting X to work and I can't find the right module to make /dev/psaux
> work :(

I'm guessing that maybe the new HID stuff puts the mouse device at
/dev/input/mouse0 regradless of physical source/protocol?

-Andrew.

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Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?

2003-07-28 Thread Andrew Bennetts
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 08:19:56PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> 
> > Just wondering if anyone has started playing with 2.6.0 kernel? What's it
> > like?
> 
> Check my X-Operating-System header. :-) Works well here (home desktop only),

I would check it, if it was there...

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Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?

2003-07-28 Thread Andrew Bennetts
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 06:49:37PM +1000, Kevin Saenz wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone has started playing with
> 2.6.0 kernel? What's it like?

I've tried (and am still running) 2.5.72-bk3 at home.  Despite grabbing a
snapshot (hence the -bk3), compiling with an unsupported gcc (3.3) and
basically ignoring the documentation, I was disappointed to find that it
Just Worked ;)

Well, almost, for some reason my logitech cordless mouse's mouse wheel
doesn't seem to work anymore.  But otherwise, it was a painless exercise for
me, but YMMV...

There's a nice summary of changes, and also some known gotchas, at
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt

That site seems to be down atm, but this link seems to have a recent version
of it:
http://lwn.net/Articles/39901/

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Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?

2003-07-28 Thread Angus Lees
At Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:44:13 +1000, Steven Kowalik wrote:
> At  6:50 pm, Monday, July 28 2003, Kevin Saenz mumbled:
> > Just wondering if anyone has started playing with
> > 2.6.0 kernel? What's it like?
> > 
> I have. It's ... different. It uses modprobe.conf, rather than modules.conf,
> PCMCIA requires tweaking, and X doesn't work. And I've panic'd it twice. Oh
> well.

I was going to say I hadn't noticed any difference - but I just tried
getting X to work and I can't find the right module to make /dev/psaux
work :(

ppp_deflate seems to be broken (I can't receive UDP packets?), but
adding "nodeflate" to pppd/options works fine.

otherwise I haven't noticed any problems (running it right now) :)

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Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?

2003-07-28 Thread Jeff Waugh


> Just wondering if anyone has started playing with 2.6.0 kernel? What's it
> like?

Check my X-Operating-System header. :-) Works well here (home desktop only),
but there are some scheduling issues that make listening to ogg files and
moving windows reasonably annoying. There have been some patches around to
fix up those however, so I will probably try those and -test2 at some stage.

Ready-to-wear ALSA support is nice, and there are some nice optimisations
throughout (especially if you're on SMP). See Joseph Pranevich's traditional
"Wonderful World" document for more details:

  http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?

2003-07-28 Thread Steve Kowalik
At  6:50 pm, Monday, July 28 2003, Kevin Saenz mumbled:
> Just wondering if anyone has started playing with
> 2.6.0 kernel? What's it like?
> 
I have. It's ... different. It uses modprobe.conf, rather than modules.conf,
PCMCIA requires tweaking, and X doesn't work. And I've panic'd it twice. Oh
well.

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[SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?

2003-07-28 Thread Kevin Saenz
Just wondering if anyone has started playing with
2.6.0 kernel? What's it like?

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