Re: [SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-08 Thread Jeremy Visser
On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 21:03 +1100, Ben Donohue wrote:
 Sunflower oil is OK but pure Aceite De Oliva Espanol Moro Pure Olive
 oil is best. Make sure it's the 100% pure (no cholesterol) so you can
 also drain it six monthly and cook some hot chips in it as well. My
 Italian wife swears by it.

I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry.

(In which case, it's just as well you didn't prescribe onions to go
 with it.)


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Re: [SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-07 Thread Chris Johns

Jeff Waugh wrote:


Turns out it's quite scary when the disks go crazy in the dead of night when
the TV isn't on. :-)



I have found it helps to draw the curtains when there is a full moon. ;)

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Re: [SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-07 Thread Mark Walkom
Take a look at the Noctua range on 120m fans.
I'd also replace the GPU fan/heatsink as they are noisy even when idle.

2009/10/7 Ken Foskey fos...@tpg.com.au:

 My computer is too noisy.   It is not graphics because it is not used
 much and when it does there is enough background noise.  It is the power
 supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning.

 I was thinking about adding fluid cooling,   is this worth it or else
 can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run
 quietly?

 Thanks
 Ken
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Re: [SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-07 Thread david

Have a look at your case too... I've found the same fan in a good case is MUCH 
quieter.

My $200 Antec case (PS not included) is much quieter than the $60 cheapie. I'll never buy another 
cheap case.


Mark Walkom wrote:

Take a look at the Noctua range on 120m fans.
I'd also replace the GPU fan/heatsink as they are noisy even when idle.

2009/10/7 Ken Foskey fos...@tpg.com.au:

My computer is too noisy.   It is not graphics because it is not used
much and when it does there is enough background noise.  It is the power
supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning.

I was thinking about adding fluid cooling,   is this worth it or else
can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run
quietly?

Thanks
Ken
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Re: [SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-07 Thread Morgan Storey
There are higher power internal case power supplies too have a look at the
Zalman and Silverstone offerings below, I bought a 600w silverstone a while
ago and it's single 120mm fan is quieter than my cpu fan.
http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-233-1.htm (no fan, but old there
is a new one iirc)
and http://www.silentpcreview.com/article688-page1.html (has a big slow fan
and heat pipes, also 600w)

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:36 PM, david da...@kenpro.com.au wrote:

 Have a look at your case too... I've found the same fan in a good case is
 MUCH quieter.

 My $200 Antec case (PS not included) is much quieter than the $60 cheapie.
 I'll never buy another cheap case.


 Mark Walkom wrote:

 Take a look at the Noctua range on 120m fans.
 I'd also replace the GPU fan/heatsink as they are noisy even when idle.

 2009/10/7 Ken Foskey fos...@tpg.com.au:

 My computer is too noisy.   It is not graphics because it is not used
 much and when it does there is enough background noise.  It is the power
 supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning.

 I was thinking about adding fluid cooling,   is this worth it or else
 can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run
 quietly?

 Thanks
 Ken
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Re: [SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-07 Thread Ben Donohue

Hi Ken,

I've read that sinking it in an oil bath reduces the noise and gets rid 
of the heat quite well...
Sunflower oil is OK but pure Aceite De Oliva Espanol Moro Pure Olive oil 
is best.
Make sure it's the 100% pure (no cholesterol) so you can also drain it 
six monthly and cook some hot chips in it as well.

My Italian wife swears by it.

Ciao,
Ben



Ken Foskey wrote:

My computer is too noisy.   It is not graphics because it is not used
much and when it does there is enough background noise.  It is the power
supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning.

I was thinking about adding fluid cooling,   is this worth it or else
can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run
quietly?

Thanks
Ken
  

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Re: [SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-07 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 14:44 +1100, Ken Foskey wrote:
 My computer is too noisy.   It is not graphics because it is not used
 much and when it does there is enough background noise.  It is the power
 supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning.
 
 I was thinking about adding fluid cooling,   is this worth it or else
 can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run
 quietly?

Depending on what 'powerful' means, a fanless media server may suite you
too.

-Rob


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RE: [SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-07 Thread Meijer, Luke
I just built a HTPC with an ANTEC 650w signature PSU and some Noctua case fans.

I also got a scythe mini ninja cpu cooler and replaced the standard fan with 
another Noctua silent fan.

The setup is whisper quiet.

Luke

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Jeff Waugh wrote:
 
 Turns out it's quite scary when the disks go crazy in the dead of night when
 the TV isn't on. :-)
 

I have found it helps to draw the curtains when there is a full moon. ;)

Regards
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Re: [SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-07 Thread jam
On Thursday 08 October 2009 08:36:45 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
 I've read that sinking it in an oil bath reduces the noise and gets rid
 of the heat quite well...
 Sunflower oil is OK but pure Aceite De Oliva Espanol Moro Pure Olive oil
 is best.
 Make sure it's the 100% pure (no cholesterol) so you can also drain it
 six monthly and cook some hot chips in it as well.
 My Italian wife swears by it.

 Ciao,
 Ben

 Ken Foskey wrote:
  My computer is too noisy.   It is not graphics because it is not used
  much and when it does there is enough background noise.  It is the power
  supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning.
 
  I was thinking about adding fluid cooling,   is this worth it or else
  can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run
  quietly?

I'm sure that lots of people have their favorite solutions
Mine is ANTEC NSK1380 case http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAvdOd_VBnQ
I use AMD BE2350 dual core, a couple of TV cards (Twinhan and DIVICO) and a 1T 
WD green caviar disk.

This server draws 30W (at the meter with a stopwatch) and you can't hear it in 
the same room.

(cause it's low power the CPU fan is not WINDING) 
For bigger boxes the passive CPU coolers are kewl
http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/  CPU PARTS - AMD SOCKET 2 - FAN COOLERS

You *can* get quiet without the technical overload.
James
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Re: [SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-07 Thread Jake Anderson



I'm sure that lots of people have their favorite solutions
Mine is ANTEC NSK1380 case http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAvdOd_VBnQ
I use AMD BE2350 dual core, a couple of TV cards (Twinhan and DIVICO) and a 1T 
WD green caviar disk.


This server draws 30W (at the meter with a stopwatch) and you can't hear it in 
the same room.


(cause it's low power the CPU fan is not WINDING) 
For bigger boxes the passive CPU coolers are kewl

http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/  CPU PARTS - AMD SOCKET 2 - FAN COOLERS

You *can* get quiet without the technical overload.
James
  


Mine is a large silverstone case
http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_spec.php?pno=lc17area=usa

I have 4 or 5 80mm fans in it
one per hdd rack, 2 or 3 near the CPU (cant remember)

an antek 600W psu with a 120mm fan

quad core q6600

It has 4 hdd's in (2x 320s, 1x 400, 1x1000) it and a bluray.

The noisiest fan in it, is a 40mm fan I put onto the onboard VGA (9400) 
because it seemed hot.


That said, when I put a DVD in the seek noise swamps the other noise 
from the system.


There is a fish tank next to the TV and the noise from the airstones in 
it is louder than the TV system.

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[SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-06 Thread Ken Foskey

My computer is too noisy.   It is not graphics because it is not used
much and when it does there is enough background noise.  It is the power
supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning.

I was thinking about adding fluid cooling,   is this worth it or else
can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run
quietly?

Thanks
Ken
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Re: [SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Ken Foskey

 My computer is too noisy. It is not graphics because it is not used much
 and when it does there is enough background noise. It is the power supply
 and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning.
 
 I was thinking about adding fluid cooling, is this worth it or else can I
 where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run quietly?

You can get very quiet CPU and PSU fans these days. (I've always found GPU
fans to be the most problematic, because they're cheap and usually difficult
to replace.)

My current solution: An HTPC style case for my desktop system, which has no
PSU fan at all (it uses a laptop-style power supply)... and a quietish CPU
fan... which is getting louder with age. ;-)

The server in the lounge room just has quiet fans, and is only audible in
the dead of night, when the TV isn't on. Or when the disks go crazy.

Turns out it's quite scary when the disks go crazy in the dead of night when
the TV isn't on. :-)

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-06 Thread Dean Hamstead
larger fans are quieter than smaller fans, and much cheaper than liquid 
cooling


you can also get extremely large cpu coolers that will reduce noise.


Dean

Ken Foskey wrote:

My computer is too noisy.   It is not graphics because it is not used
much and when it does there is enough background noise.  It is the power
supply and cpu fan that kicks in with cron at 2 am in the morning.

I was thinking about adding fluid cooling,   is this worth it or else
can I where can I get a powerful 24 hour home system that will run
quietly?

Thanks
Ken

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Re: [SLUG] quiet computer

2009-10-06 Thread Matthew Hannigan


If it's mostly the 2am noise that bothers you,
the first thing you might try is turn off whatever
is scheduled at that time.  Popular offenders are
prelinking and manpage indexing but there are many
other possibilities.  Turn them off or move them to
say 10am in the morning when no one is around.

You can also try out powertop (from intel) which
is intended to find things that use a lot of power.
Those things also of course tend to make the cpu
run hotter and start up the fans as well.

If you do enough plus some power settings, you can even get
to the point where the machine goes to sleep when not used.


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