Re: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks)
This one time, at band camp, Jon Biddell wrote: While bogofilter is probably a damn ghood idea, it doesn't address the vast majority of users who probably have one machine connected to their ISP, and their spam email downloads count toewards there monthly limit. bogofilter runs at the client end just before mail goes into your mailbox, whilst you are downloading it. Mozilla mail also has a nifty spam thingy which works pretty much the same way, for when people just can't have procmail filter first, which is very handy for relatives... a big fat button which marks a mesasge as spam is ideal for users. P.S. there's a mail-followup-to header in my messages for a reason. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks)
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 03:55:39PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote: I can see what Richard is saying - if we can't stop it at the source (i.e. the slug server), then you need something that can delete spam What we don't know is how many spams the filters stopped. No filter is perfect, but if they've caught 99% then we really don't have any right to complain about the 1% that got though. Given that I get something like 150 spams a day to one of my email addresses (it comes to me via an old .forward to which I no longer have access and have been unsuccessful in having removed), an average of 1.5 per day from slug + slug-chat is pretty damn good in comparison. BEFORE it leaves your ISP. Or better still, be before it leaves the spammers machine. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F http://kirriwa.net/john/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks)
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 16:07, John Clarke wrote: What we don't know is how many spams the filters stopped. No filter is perfect, but if they've caught 99% then we really don't have any right to complain about the 1% that got though. Thanks for some positive feedback. :-) Last time I counted, the figure was considerably less than 1%. But yeah, it's jumped up again lately. I, for one, don't draw a salary from SLUG though, so won't be able to look at the filters until later tonight. Sorry for the hassles, and the abnormal length of this thread. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks)
personally, I don't see the problem with making it a hidden list. However, there may be reasons for not doing so which all seem to ilude me at the moment, but I only got 1 copy. but by the same token, I gotta tell you, I ain't liking the porn spam much, just my 2 cents worth -- Shaun Oliver Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow! EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 76958435 YAHOO: blindman01_2000 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: captain nemo 200 IRC: irc.awesomechat.net: IRCNICK: blindman CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile #mauisun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks)
*SNIP* Not editing your messages, however, really fromages me off *SNIP* I would have to agree. thankfully, I use mutt which in my case due to my using speech, I find that I can read a reply to one message and the text I've already seen in a previous message isn't read out to me. that afaik is a feature of mutt. but guys some people pay dearly for their bandwidth so do them and the rest of us a favour and quit bitching about how replys are posted and edit your messages accordingly. -- Shaun Oliver Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow! EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 76958435 YAHOO: blindman01_2000 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: captain nemo 200 IRC: irc.awesomechat.net: IRCNICK: blindman CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile #mauisun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks)
Oh God, don't go there Richard... It will never happen... I've raised this innumerable times in the past and, while I will NEVER agree with the committee's reasons for not doing so, they have decided that a members only list is inappropriate. -= -Original Message- -= From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Ames -= Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2003 11:43 AM -= To: SLUG -= Subject: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks) -= -= -= -= We apparently can not filter this stuff --- can we make it -= a member only -= list -= -= Please, -= -= Richard. -= -= -- -= Richard Ames -= linsup.com, +61 2 9144-6131 -= -= -- -= SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ -= More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -= -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks)
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 12:11:33PM +1000, Terry Collins wrote: I would be more interested in knowing why the filters haven't picked it up by now. It seems that we had the same message about 5 (?) times . No, only twice, once each on slug and slug-chat, but they referred to the same site as some of the others that slipped through - free.gordontower.com. Since the beginning of the month, 17 (total for both slug and slug-chat) have slipped through the filters and SpamAssassin has caught every one. Three scored only 5.5, ten scored 7.2 and four scored 9.3. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F http://kirriwa.net/john/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks)
Well Im not a member of slug-chat and I have had that email about 5 times to the slug list... I can count at least 8 ( of this sort of spam ) from the main slug list alone :) --- Kind Regards, Theo Julienne -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks)
Top posting is not bad, I'm all for it .. more top posting please, I use pine, and I sometimes have a bloody slow link, having to scroll down through pages of message to read one is annoying as crap, and yeah I know people should trim their replies, but I use pine, and I sometimes have a bloody slow link, and having to delete pages of crap so I can reply to a message usually means I top post instead because did I mention I use pine and I sometimes have a slow link. :-) Dave. Top posting, reply not trimmed and an 18 line sig. I'd expect better from someone who calls himself a senior network engineer. Cheers, John -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / [EMAIL PROTECTED] pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks)
Dave Airlie wrote: for i = 1 to 3; do I use pine, and I sometimes have a bloody slow --+ link, having to scroll down through pages of | message to read one is annoying as crap,--+ done Please dont get into this loop, I have just experienced a long thread on comp.text.tex when someone top posted. Mike -- Mike Lake Caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical. UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks)
If you're *really* concerned about top-posting, might I suggest you go get a LIFE !! -= Top posting is not bad, I'm all for it .. more top posting please, Not editing your messages, however, really fromages me off !!! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks)
This one time, at band camp, Richard Ames wrote: We apparently can not filter this stuff --- can we make it a member only list I haven't received a single spam from the slug list since i installed bogofilter between my mailbox and my mailserver. http://spacepants.org/conf/dot.procmailrc and search for the bogofilter section -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: Members only (was [SLUG] Slug, Lisa sucks)
-= This one time, at band camp, Richard Ames wrote: -= -= We apparently can not filter this stuff --- can we make it -= a member -= only -= list -= -= I haven't received a single spam from the slug list since i -= installed bogofilter between my mailbox and my mailserver. -= While bogofilter is probably a damn ghood idea, it doesn't address the vast majority of users who probably have one machine connected to their ISP, and their spam email downloads count toewards there monthly limit. I can see what Richard is saying - if we can't stop it at the source (i.e. the slug server), then you need something that can delete spam BEFORE it leaves your ISP. Jon P.S. And I know I can't do this with my isp, which is why I'm changing !! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
