Re: [SLUG] Deleting a mailman list

2008-05-07 Thread Peter Chubb
 Peter == Peter Chubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Peter Hi, How do I delete a mailman list (as far as being able to
Peter send new messages to it goes) but leave the archive website up?


OK I've worked out a way, documented here so that others can use it.

basically three steps:
 -- copy the list of subscribers somewhere safe (in case you screw up)
 -- Unsubscribe everyone except yourself
 -- in the Privacy Options screen, say to discard messages from
non-members.  (you could use `bounce' but the main reason I want to
shut the lists down is the amount of spam v. real traffic)

This leave the archives up, but prevents new postings.



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Re: [SLUG] Deleting a mailman list

2008-05-07 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Thu, May 08, 2008, Peter Chubb wrote:
 basically three steps:
  -- copy the list of subscribers somewhere safe (in case you screw up)
  -- Unsubscribe everyone except yourself
  -- in the Privacy Options screen, say to discard messages from
 non-members.  (you could use `bounce' but the main reason I want to
 shut the lists down is the amount of spam v. real traffic)

The fourth thing is to make it so that people can't subscribe themselves
if they stumble across the list infrastructure:
 - add a warning to the listinfo page (or use your webserver to make it
   impossible to access)
 - set all subscriptions to must be confirmed and approved (and then
   don't approve any)

-Mary
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Re: [SLUG] Deleting a mailman list

2008-04-28 Thread Sonia Hamilton
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 09:21 +1000, Peter Chubb wrote:
 Hi,
   How do I delete a mailman list (as far as being able to send
 new messages to it goes) but leave the archive website up?
 
 The documentation suggests 
   rmlist list-name
 deletes the list but leaves the archives; but they've disappeared from
 the website too.

From memory, an easier way is to delete the mailserver archive that
forwards to mailman, rather than deleting the list within mailman.

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Re: [SLUG] Deleting a mailman list

2008-04-28 Thread Sonia Hamilton
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 10:02 +1000, Sonia Hamilton wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 09:21 +1000, Peter Chubb wrote:
  Hi,
  How do I delete a mailman list (as far as being able to send
  new messages to it goes) but leave the archive website up?
  
  The documentation suggests 
  rmlist list-name
  deletes the list but leaves the archives; but they've disappeared from
  the website too.
 
 From memory, an easier way is to delete the mailserver archive that
 forwards to mailman, rather than deleting the list within mailman.

Duh! That should read delete the mailserver *alias* that forwards
emails to mailman *for that list*, rather than deleting the list within
mailman

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.
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http://www.linkedin.com/in/soniahamilton
.
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not original and the part that is original is not good - Samuel Johnson.

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Re: [SLUG] Deleting a mailman list

2008-04-28 Thread Peter Chubb
 Sonia == Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Sonia On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 10:02 +1000, Sonia Hamilton wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 09:21 +1000, Peter Chubb wrote:  Hi,  How
 do I delete a mailman list (as far as being able to send  new
 messages to it goes) but leave the archive website up?
  
  The documentation suggests  rmlist list-name  deletes the list
 but leaves the archives; but they've disappeared from  the website
 too.
 
 From memory, an easier way is to delete the mailserver archive
 that forwards to mailman, rather than deleting the list within
 mailman.

Sonia Duh! That should read delete the mailserver *alias* that
Sonia forwards emails to mailman *for that list*, rather than
Sonia deleting the list within mailman

Thanks for the suggestion.  Except there aren't any :-)
My exim4.config has:

mailman_director:
driver = accept
require_files = MAILMAN_HOME/lists/$local_part/config.pck
local_part_suffix_optional
local_part_suffix = -bounces : -bounces+* : \
 -confirm+* : -join : -leave : \
 -owner : -request : -admin
transport = mailman_transport


So I guess what I should have done is just remove
MAILMAN_HOME/lists/list-to-delete/config.pck ... ???

But I believe this file is shared with the code that generates the
archive stuff.

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Re: [SLUG] Deleting a mailman list

2008-04-28 Thread Sonia Hamilton
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 11:37 +1000, Peter Chubb wrote:
 Sonia Duh! That should read delete the mailserver *alias* that
 Sonia forwards emails to mailman *for that list*, rather than
 Sonia deleting the list within mailman
 
 Thanks for the suggestion.  Except there aren't any :-)
 My exim4.config has:
 
 mailman_director:
 driver = accept
 require_files = MAILMAN_HOME/lists/$local_part/config.pck
 local_part_suffix_optional
 local_part_suffix = -bounces : -bounces+* : \
  -confirm+* : -join : -leave : \
  -owner : -request : -admin
 transport = mailman_transport
 

That's because Exim seems to be very sensible (I'm migrating away from
Postfix, to get away from horrors like what Mary is dealing with).

Last time I played with mailman it was on a qmail machine (doubleplus
horror), where multiple .qmail files under /var/qmail/something were
used for each mailman list eg .qmail-foo-join .qmail-foo-admin etc. Ergo
remove them to stop the list working.

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.
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not original and the part that is original is not good - Samuel Johnson.

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