Re: [SLUG] Firefox 4.0

2010-09-19 Thread Simon Males
Hi Peter,

It's been a while since I've run a development version / non packaged
version of Firefox but I've quickly tested the following method which
serviced me for a number of years.

Please note this does not 'install' Firefox. I'm basically doing the
Windows equivalent of unzipping an archive and running the executable.

1. Download Firefox 4.0 beta: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/beta/
1.1. Close you existing Firefox browser window
2. Extract it.
3. Open the extracted 'firefox' directory.
4. Execute the 'firefox' shell script. i.e. Double click it (you might
have to hit click 'run' in Gnome).

Steps 2, 3 and 4 can be either performed from the GUI or command line.

Once your happy its working, you can create shortcuts / application
launches on your desktop so you don't have to navigate to the
'firefox' directory each time.

Hope that's clear enough.

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Peter Rundle pe...@aerodonetix.com.au wrote:
 Hi Sluggers,

 does anyone on this list, who isn't running the latest version of Ubuntu and
 doesn't re-build their Linux desktop every second day and therefore doesn't
 have add-apt-repository and ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa or whatever the
 hell is that on their box,

 had any success in finding links to instructions as to how to install
 Firefox 4.0 beta for normal users? (People still using Jaunty for example).

 TIA's


 Pete

 P.S yes I'm frustrated and exasperated with Linux and no I can no longer be
 bothered to try to keep up with the insane rate at which the community
 changes things. I'm sure there are a million arguments as to why the
 accelerator pedal would be better if it was on the left but it's not, it's
 on the right so just leave it there otherwise you will just leave a whole
 bunch of users behind who will then go back to that other operating system.


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Re: [SLUG] Firefox 4.0

2010-09-19 Thread Kevin Shackleton
Hmm, 90 minutes and no response.  Is there something good on telly?

I'd wonder why when suggesting that Linux is rolling on too fast Peter
would want to load a beta product?

I've just spent the afternoon rescuing a brand new PC where the capital
city office of a rural business dropped a couple of installs on the
system, and that was that - no configuration or testing.  The PC came
with (W7 of course, and) a 60-day trial of Office 2007.  The install of
Office 2003 without first removing Office 07 was not a clever move.
That the OS was 64 bit and none of the existing hardware would run
properly either didn't add to user satisfaction.

I was thinking as I was getting things to work that even Debian is
cutting edge compared to these days dropping Office 03 onto the system,
or even offering a 60 day trial of a 3 year old product.  It's not that
simple of course - there are mega patches on Office 03 and W7, so
nothing is really that old.

I'm sure there are plenty of IT managers out there who can explain how
they manage the balance of new vs old.  For me it's simple - run Debian.
Iceweasel 3.0.6 and OpenOffice 2.4.1.  Won't connect to my wifi Epson
TX710 (ok - I haven't tried hard).  But no broken dependencies either.

Kevin.

On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 18:41 +1000, Peter Rundle wrote:
 Hi Sluggers,
 
 does anyone on this list, who isn't running the latest version of Ubuntu and 
 doesn't re-build their Linux desktop every second day 
 and therefore doesn't have add-apt-repository and 
 ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa or whatever the hell is that on their box,
 
 had any success in finding links to instructions as to how to install Firefox 
 4.0 beta for normal users? (People still using 
 Jaunty for example).
 
 TIA's
 
 
 Pete
 
 P.S yes I'm frustrated and exasperated with Linux and no I can no longer be 
 bothered to try to keep up with the insane rate at 
 which the community changes things. I'm sure there are a million arguments as 
 to why the accelerator pedal would be better if it 
 was on the left but it's not, it's on the right so just leave it there 
 otherwise you will just leave a whole bunch of users behind 
 who will then go back to that other operating system.
 
 

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Re: [SLUG] Firefox 4.0

2010-09-19 Thread Peter Rundle

Thanks Simon, those instructions got me going.

In answer to Kevin's question as to why I would want to load a beta product, I'm building a web site and I want to know if it will 
be ok in the next version of FF. As 4.0 will be out in a few months, discovering that some aspect of my site doesn't work or 
layout properly after I've uploaded it would be a bad thing. Whether the bug is my fault or a problem in FF is immaterial, but 
it would be best to test it now me thinks.



Cheers

Pete




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