Re: [SLUG] Which Laptop?

2003-09-02 Thread Richard Heycock
I've been very impressed with my ASUS L3800. It has been my main
development machine for since last November without any problems at all.
The display is fantastic (1400x1050) and overall it is fast.

I run debian unstable which installs without issue. I've even got
GNU/hurd running on it (I haven't got X working though). The only thing
I haven't got running is the modem which is lin modem but I think this
is because I run 2.5/2.6 kernels (which by the way works very well and I
haven't had one crash since about March), I *think* you can get the
modem running with 2.4 kernel. If you are running a 2.4 kernel you may
have to download the alsa patch to get sound working -- this just works
with 2.5/2.6.

rgh


On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 14:29, Eddie F wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm in the process of convincing the boss that I need a laptop for work 
> purposes. Looks like Im doing well, so Ill probably be looking at which 
> one to get over the next few weeks.
> Ive installed on a few laptops before (old and new) so Im familiar with 
> the kind of issues that I could face and how to get around some of them, but 
> Im wondering if any of the manufactures tend to be more or less Linux 
> friendly than the others.
> Im sure most of their support teams will fob me off, the instant I mention 
> Linux (or any other OS), but there may be some that are willing to give me 
> the information I need in my efforts to resolve something.
> God forbid there may even be one that provides Linux drivers Then again 
> maybe not!
> 
> Cheers.
> Eddie.
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Which Laptop?

2003-08-26 Thread Anthony Wood
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 03:24:00PM +1000, Anthony Wood wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 05:54:26PM +1000, Mike MacCana wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 15:02, Anthony Wood wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 02:29:46PM +1000, Eddie F wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > I'm in the process of convincing the boss that I need a laptop for work 
> > > > purposes. Looks like Im doing well, so Ill probably be looking at which 
> > > > one to get over the next few weeks.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I've bought a Dell 8500 in the last month ($4000 - 1Gb RAM 60 Gb Disk 2.4 Gh P4).
> > > 
> > > Dell doesn't "support" linux on their laptops, but all the bits available with 
> > > the
> > > 8500 work under linux, with a bit of effort. Except the Truemobile 1300/1400
> > > minipci wireless card.  
> > 
> > I can second that, I'm using one now, and I'm very happy with it. The
> > screen is great, the video card looks wonderful, and the gigabit NIC
> > works well too. 
> > 
> > Get the NVIDIA graphics card rather than the ATI one if you want good 3D
> > performance, and don't bother buying the Dell wireless card.
> > 
> > Anthony: did you manage to get Dell to swap over the truemobile?
> 
> I knew the 1300 wouldn't work for me, so I didn't order it.
> I've tried to order an 1150 through dell australia, but they
> don't get back to my supplier.  I don't have any other wireless
> gear, so I'm not in a huge hurry...

I made a new enquiry on the weekend and have got a response/quote.

Quote said to ask tech support if the thing would work in the 8500.

Tech support said yes.

KL-C840 - 5M751 (Truemobile (TM) 1150 MiniPCI Card $63
Freight $14
GST $7.70
Total $84.70

Not too ugly.  Now I have to save up my pocket money.

cheers,
Woody

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Re: [SLUG] Which Laptop?

2003-08-24 Thread Simon Wong
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 00:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I think you're one of the lucky ones!  I've never
> heard of Dell delivering anything sooner than
> 4 weeks or so.

My Inspiron 8000 came in less than a week...but that was nearly 2.5yrs
ago so maybe things have changed...


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Re: [SLUG] Which Laptop?

2003-08-22 Thread Anthony Wood
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 05:54:26PM +1000, Mike MacCana wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 15:02, Anthony Wood wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 02:29:46PM +1000, Eddie F wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > I'm in the process of convincing the boss that I need a laptop for work 
> > > purposes. Looks like Im doing well, so Ill probably be looking at which 
> > > one to get over the next few weeks.
> > > 
> > 
> > I've bought a Dell 8500 in the last month ($4000 - 1Gb RAM 60 Gb Disk 2.4 Gh P4).
> > 
> > Dell doesn't "support" linux on their laptops, but all the bits available with the
> > 8500 work under linux, with a bit of effort. Except the Truemobile 1300/1400
> > minipci wireless card.  
> 
> I can second that, I'm using one now, and I'm very happy with it. The
> screen is great, the video card looks wonderful, and the gigabit NIC
> works well too. 
> 
> Get the NVIDIA graphics card rather than the ATI one if you want good 3D
> performance, and don't bother buying the Dell wireless card.
> 
> Anthony: did you manage to get Dell to swap over the truemobile?

I knew the 1300 wouldn't work for me, so I didn't order it.
I've tried to order an 1150 through dell australia, but they
don't get back to my supplier.  I don't have any other wireless
gear, so I'm not in a huge hurry...

cheers,
Woody

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Re: [SLUG] Which Laptop?

2003-08-22 Thread mlh
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 15:02:28 +1000
Anthony Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [  ]
> Nice bits include 1920x1200 screen and Geforce4 4200 graphics.
> 
> Surprises so far:
> Dell takes at least a week to deliver the thing

I think you're one of the lucky ones!  I've never
heard of Dell delivering anything sooner than
4 weeks or so.

Matt
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Re: [SLUG] Which Laptop?

2003-08-22 Thread Mike MacCana
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 15:02, Anthony Wood wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 02:29:46PM +1000, Eddie F wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm in the process of convincing the boss that I need a laptop for work 
> > purposes. Looks like Im doing well, so Ill probably be looking at which 
> > one to get over the next few weeks.
> > 
> 
> I've bought a Dell 8500 in the last month ($4000 - 1Gb RAM 60 Gb Disk 2.4 Gh P4).
> 
> Dell doesn't "support" linux on their laptops, but all the bits available with the
> 8500 work under linux, with a bit of effort. Except the Truemobile 1300/1400
> minipci wireless card.  

I can second that, I'm using one now, and I'm very happy with it. The
screen is great, the video card looks wonderful, and the gigabit NIC
works well too. 

Get the NVIDIA graphics card rather than the ATI one if you want good 3D
performance, and don't bother buying the Dell wireless card.

Anthony: did you manage to get Dell to swap over the truemobile?

Mike
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Re: [SLUG] Which Laptop?

2003-08-21 Thread Anthony Wood
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 02:29:46PM +1000, Eddie F wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm in the process of convincing the boss that I need a laptop for work 
> purposes. Looks like I’m doing well, so I’ll probably be looking at which 
> one to get over the next few weeks.
> I’ve installed on a few laptops before (old and new) so I’m familiar with 
> the kind of issues that I could face and how to get around some of them, but 
> I’m wondering if any of the manufactures tend to be more or less Linux 
> friendly than the others.

I've bought a Dell 8500 in the last month ($4000 - 1Gb RAM 60 Gb Disk 2.4 Gh P4).

Dell doesn't "support" linux on their laptops, but all the bits available with the
8500 work under linux, with a bit of effort. Except the Truemobile 1300/1400
minipci wireless card.  But you can apparently get the Truemobile 1150 miniPCI 
separately
for US$49 which is an orinoco and well supported.

Nice bits include 1920x1200 screen and Geforce4 4200 graphics.

Surprises so far:
Dell takes at least a week to deliver the thing
You have to order the bluetooth module with the laptop, it's on the motherboard.
No PS/2 port for your mouse keyboard, but you can get a USB - 2* PS/2 dongle thing 
from Jaycar
for $20 which makes your PS2 keyboard and mouse look like USB ones to the laptop.

Dell specials change a lot during the month, I got mine with a free double memory 
special,
hence the 1Gb.
Also do a good survey of the dell prices they are a bit wonky, I got the 2.4 because 
it was cheaper than the 2.2,
and about the same as the 2.0.

Nice thing about Dell is you have heaps of options with bits, and the prices are shown 
in
real time.

> I’m sure most of their support teams will fob me off, the instant I mention 
> Linux (or any other OS), but there may be some that are willing to give me 
> the information I need in my efforts to resolve something.
> God forbid there may even be one that provides Linux drivers… Then again 
> maybe not!

I haven't had to ask the manufacturer, I did a quick survey of linuxlaptops.com to
make sure the model worked under linux to the extent that I needed.

cheers,
Woody

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