RE: [sniffer] Surprising missed spam

2004-09-14 Thread Agid, Corby
 To which addresss should I send these?

Also, I mis-stated the spam.  They were not plain text, but html, but clearly have 
many classic spam attributes.  I will send them along, but need to know where.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 4:29 PM
 To: Agid, Corby
 Subject: Re: [sniffer] Surprising missed spam
 
 On Monday, September 13, 2004, 7:22:03 PM, Corby wrote:
 
 AC Hello,
 
 AC I was surprised recently by some spam that got through without 
 AC getting caught by the sniffer.   We've been getting some 
 plain text 
 AC messages that have obvious spam words in the subject line.   For 
 AC example, a plain text message with horny teenagers
 AC came through.  The content was also very spammy, but all 
 plain text.   
 AC I tried sending myself a few messages with standard spam 
 phrases and 
 AC none of them tripped any sniffer rules.
 
 AC Am I missing something?
 
 Can you zip up some examples and send them to me?
 I'm researching this issue right now and I need more data.
 
 Thanks,
 _M
 
 PS: A number of word / phrase based rules have been dropped 
 from the core rule base due to false positives - not many, 
 but this might explain some of what you're seeing - I will 
 know more when I have some examples. If that's the case I can 
 always put the rules back in for your local rule base.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [sniffer] Surprising missed spam

2004-09-14 Thread Agid, Corby



I suppose everyone's userbases have differenent 
requirements. An ISP or private enterprisemight worry about false 
postives on "horny teenagers" and "penis enlargement", but for our local 
government agency, it causes problems. 

Corby


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Monday, September 13, 2004 5:25 PMTo: 
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  spam
  Corby,Personally, I'm a fan of leaving the generic stuff 
  out due to the potential of false positives. Those of us that are using 
  Sniffer in addition to other spam blocking mechanisms can afford to lose some 
  Sniffer hits on such phrases because they will be picked up by other means 
  almost all of the time. Including such phrases however would increase 
  our false positive rate without a measurable benefit in spam capture 
  rates. I have even asked Pete to remove some phrase hits from my own 
  rulebase for exactly this reason.MattAgid, Corby 
  wrote:
  

Hello, 
I was surprised recently by some spam that got 
through without getting caught by the sniffer. We've been 
getting some plain text messages that have obvious spam words in the subject 
line. For example, a plain text message with "horny teenagers" 
came through. The content was also very spammy, but all plain 
text. I tried sending myself a few messages with standard spam 
phrases and none of them tripped any sniffer rules.
Am I missing something? 
Corby -- 
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[sniffer] Surprising missed spam

2004-09-13 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Surprising missed spam






Hello,


I was surprised recently by some spam that got through without getting caught by the sniffer. We've been getting some plain text messages that have obvious spam words in the subject line. For example, a plain text message with horny teenagers came through. The content was also very spammy, but all plain text. I tried sending myself a few messages with standard spam phrases and none of them tripped any sniffer rules.

Am I missing something?


Corby