[RCSE] FS Logic fuse - sold

1999-12-17 Thread Antonio Martinez

I had several offers shortly after posting the FS notice.  To all who
offered, thanks and better luck next time...
regards,
A
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RE: [RCSE] RE: Light Boomerangs - Long

1999-12-17 Thread Woods,Nathan

Nope, but Office Depot does.


Nathan Woods
Temple Hill Slope Squadron
Orange, California
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Check out the THSS Website at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~windrider007/index.html


-
Nathan:
More folks can read HTML.  Also, would a local vinyl sign shop carry the
Uline tape?
Jim Deck  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [RCSE] V tail (or V Tails and axial rolls)

1999-12-17 Thread Aaron Coffey

I notice though that v-tails don't roll as well as my standard tail
gliders - not a true axial roll.  Any comments?

If the nose of your glider is dropping when you initiate a turn, then the
v-tail does not have the correct differential to be neutral in pitch. This
would result in the small barrel rolls I believe you are experiencing. For
more information on v-tails, such as sizing and tuning, I recommend a visit
to http://www.bright.net/~djwerks, where you should look into the Ask Joe
and Don section. Everything you want to know about v-tails is there.

/amC

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[RCSE] Most Excellent Battery Shrink Wrap Source!

1999-12-17 Thread GordySoar

I just visited Gabes new Website, it shows his full selection of the best 
battery shrink wrap I have tried to date.. and that is saying something since 
I have passed on thousands of gordycells around the world, and have been 
checking for shrink almost everywhere I go.

What makes his sooo good?  First its clear, you can inspect your pack's 
connections and located a cell that has vented easily.

Next it's very thin but has more stretch to it versus say the yellow stuff we 
get at hobby shops or on packs from pack suppliers.  That means less brittle. 
 Don't get me wrong it not rubbery but it stays more flexible once shrunk.

the other thing is his selection of sizes.  not one size fits some...

Really good pricing too.

I got some and tested it last month and left the pack on a cycle charge 
discharge that was set at 2amps each way for the last couple of weeks and 
while the pack didn't vent you can bet it got hot.  The shrink didn't split 
and seems to still be flexible.

Good work to Gabe for finding this stuff.A HREF="http://nyblimp.com/cs.htm"G
abes Shrink Page/A

Gordy
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[RCSE] Thanks full moon

1999-12-17 Thread R.A.Fick

Thank you to all who responded to a request for info on V tail setup.



This is from the Scouts-L list.

Subject: Forward...  The Moon

A pre-millennial event of some note; since there are no unplanned
moments in nature, this one could be a reminder of how grand
nature's plan can appear to us. It is especially cool for all you
with wide-eyed young kids at home as well as in your units (and a
few who just must be interested in staring at the sky). All I can
say is it had better not be cloudy next week! This year will be
the first full moon to occur this century on the winter solstice,
Dec.22, commonly called the first day of winter, since a full
moon on the winter solstice occurred in conjunction with a lunar
perigee (point in the moon's orbit that is closest to Earth). The
moon will appear about 14% larger than it does at apogee (the
point in it's elliptical orbit that is farthest from the Earth.
Since the Earth is also several million miles closer to the sun
at this time of the year than in the summer, sunlight striking
the moon is about 7% stronger, making it brighter. Also, this
will be the closest perigee of the Moon of the year since the
moon's orbit is constantly deforming. If the weather is clear and
there is a snow cover where you live, it is believed that even
car headlights will be superfluous.

On December 21st, 1866 the Lakota Sioux took advantage of this
combination of occurrences and staged a devastating retaliatory
ambush on soldiers in the Wyoming Territory. In laymen's terms it
will be a super bright full moon, much more than the usual AND it
hasn't happened this way for 133 years!

Our ancestors 133 years ago saw this. Our descendants 100
or so years from now will see this again. Remember, this will
happen December 22, 1999.

Happy Holidays!

RA

R.A.Fick Bamboo Rod Co.
The best rods are being made today
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[RCSE] Twinstar Thanks

1999-12-17 Thread Vogel Dental Lab

Thanks to all who responded. I swear Id pay to get this list.

   Merry Christmas to all;  Tom from Paso


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Re: [RCSE] push rod install tricks?

1999-12-17 Thread Oliver Wilson
Title: Re: [RCSE] push rod install tricks?




Put the two push rods casings in the tail boom and see what size balsa fits between them with a little clearamce. Find a stick of soft (light) balsa the right size and wrap the push rod casings to opposite sides of the balsa stick with thread. You can ass a third tube for the antenna before thread wrapping. Use a little thin CA to hold everyrhing in place. If you want to save weight, just use 1/2 inch long sections of push rod casings spaced 2 or 3 inches apart along the balsa stick. Another weight saving trick is to use heat shrink tubing instead of the heavier pushrod casings taking care not to flatten the tubing.

I hope this helps.

Regards, Ollie
I am working on my new NSP Micro1.5. The fuselage is a bit narrow, it is actually a long CF tailboom. on bigger model, I usually sand the pushrod ,glue it on the fuse and epoxy a small piece of glass cloth over it, but this fuse is too narrow for this. how should I install the push rod on narrow fuse like this, and make it slop free? 


BTW what is micro balloon? 





[RCSE] Re: V tail

1999-12-17 Thread drela


Recently I picked up a Spirit 2M kit, 
I would like to change to a V tail 
and need help as to area and the angle of the V. 
Should I maintain the same surface area or what, 
any suggestions..? 


If you have a given conventional tail,
the area and dihedral angle of the equivalent
V-tail can be estimated as follows:

 A_vtail = A_vertical + A_horizontal

 angle =  arctan[ sqrt( A_vertical / A_horizontal ) ]

Note:  A_vtail is the area of both halves together.


These formulas are strictly correct only for
large tail aspect ratios, since they do not
account for the local interference and lift
cancellation at the V-tail roots during yaw
or "rudder" application.  But they are better
than guessing.  The DJ Aerotech site has 
a slightly different formula for the angle,
but the results are similar in practice. 

- Mark Drela
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Re: [RCSE] midair

1999-12-17 Thread Howard Rudy

The Picture shown is the final resting position of the planes. I am sure
that the landing would have moved the planes around alot. I am surprised
that the Cadet even stayed on top of the 152, like the picture shows.
Surprised that the 152's landing gear held up. So they both screwed up,
Not using the Radio or listening to it, not checking the airspace and landing
pattern. etc.
But one thing that's for sure, is they all were very lucky.  Was not
their time to go.

Howard
Salt Lake City, Ut.

Aerofoam wrote:

 I just saw the picture and can't beleive it still flew!
 I don't think the inboard 1/3rd span of either plane could produce lift
 and the outer panels had to have a lot of interference.
 This may have been more of a devine intervention than a lucky break.

  Mark Mech
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 www.aerofoam.com

 - Original Message -
 From: David Crutchley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: soaring [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 8:50 AM
 Subject: [RCSE] midair

  I checked with a friend at the NTSB, it is not a hoax.
  David
 
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Re: [RCSE] Carbon flying stab rods.

1999-12-17 Thread WB6ZHD

I do not believe the difference in weight justifies the use of carbon rods 
for stab joiners. CF rod in shear situations is not as strong as steel. My 
opinion.
Mike Clancy
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[RCSE] Twinstar Thanks

1999-12-17 Thread John Roe

Message text written by Vogel Dental Lab:

Thanks to all who responded. I swear Id pay to get this list.

Hey a new fundraising idea!

John Roe
Laguna Hills, Ca
www.martialartsacademy.org

Most of the problems with our culture can be summed up in one phrase:  "Who
are you to say?"

Dennis Prager
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[RCSE] messages

1999-12-17 Thread Klaus K Weiss

Haven't received any messages for the past three days.  A check reveals
that I was unsubscribed.  How does this happen?  Is it an auto function of
the list mailer or has someone given me an early Christmas gift?

Klaus K Weiss
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[RCSE] RE: Light Boomerangs - Long

1999-12-17 Thread John Roe

As a former cool combat guy...perhaps...
I would like to say...for what it's worth...
that Nathan's post KICKS ASS and you should
all do what he say...do what he say...

John Roe
Laguna Hills, Ca
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are you to say?"

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Re: [RCSE] midair

1999-12-17 Thread James V. Bacus

At 10:50 AM 12/17/99 -0600, David Crutchley wrote:
I checked with a friend at the NTSB, it is not a hoax.
David

Man, they were way too lucky then...  I still don't understand how there 
could be no prop damage on the lower plane.  He certainly was on a dead 
stick approach was he?


Jim
Downers Grove, IL
ICQ 6997780
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Re: [RCSE] midair

1999-12-17 Thread James V. Bacus

At 03:45 PM 12/17/99 -0600, James V. Bacus wrote:
At 10:50 AM 12/17/99 -0600, David Crutchley wrote:
I checked with a friend at the NTSB, it is not a hoax.
David

Man, they were way too lucky then...  I still don't understand how there 
could be no prop damage on the lower plane.  He certainly was on a dead 
stick approach was he?

I meant to type "He certainly was NOT on a dead stick approach was he?"  8-)


Jim
Downers Grove, IL
ICQ 6997780
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Re: [RCSE] midair

1999-12-17 Thread Jason Werner

James,
There are 2 of these exact planes at the local airport.  A couple guys
measure them to see how they fit, and they will fit without hitting.  The
nosegear on the top plane hit square on the windshield of the lower plane
then moved off to the side.  This makes around 1 -2 feet of clearance
between the 2 props.  The rear gear went behind the wing of the 152,
preventing it from sliding forward into the lower plane's prop arc.  Fit
pretty much perfect.
I did hear also some things (from the local airport owner...this is all
passed on so take it at face value).  Both were students or at least in
training.  The plane "flew" only a little.  They collided when they were
within the limits of hte airport and at less than 200ft.  The instructor
simply was able to keep them level (if he even could do that!).  But
luckially they were in a stable attitude that allowed a controlled "fall" to
the ground.  The landing gear are splayed fro mthe impact, not the weight of
the other plane!  They are bent into the new position (though they will
relax some due to the weight).  So the "landing" was probably no more than a
drop from 100ft or so!  They were lucky.

JAson Werner

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From: "James V. Bacus" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] midair


 At 10:50 AM 12/17/99 -0600, David Crutchley wrote:
 I checked with a friend at the NTSB, it is not a hoax.
 David

 Man, they were way too lucky then...  I still don't understand how there
 could be no prop damage on the lower plane.  He certainly was on a dead
 stick approach was he?


 Jim
 Downers Grove, IL
 ICQ 6997780
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RE: [RCSE] USPS 50% shipping

1999-12-17 Thread John Derstine

Been shipping, and receiving large (up to 8') sailplane/power plan boxes to
as far away as Singapore New Zealand, Germany. Dmage can and will occur from
time to time. I have been lucky so far. It is important to wrap card boar in
Luan for Air freight international shipping, and UPS where you can.
More importantly, don't use just peanuts and newspaper inside, this allows
shifting, and provides no support, Make a box or boxes inside a box with
extremely fragile stuff, use ply, foam, hot glue and make partitions using
foam board or sheets of foam. blocks of foam glued to theinside of the box
works also. the safest and quickest, and sometimes least expensive way to
ship large boxes is Emory Worldwide or similar air freight. 4 days anywhere
in the world and a large box is usualy $130 to 200 dollars. UPS ground is
the worst, pack very well in this case.  A box with 1/4" ply ends is a good
idea as well. Keep things back from the end of box if possible

I recently shipped a 1/3 scale biplane from NY to Calif. It was extremely
fragile and of balsa and light ply construction.Two swept back wings 87"
long. The box contained airframe, large gas motor, and radio. Using the
above ideas, there was no damage. often long boxes are stood on end in a
truck, pack for that scenario also.
John D.

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Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 3:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RCSE] USPS 50% shipping


John,
In an earlier post someone warned about putting a "fragile" sign on the box.
It only draws attention to the box and incurs the wrath of the disgruntled
employees.
The rule of thumb (or foot) is that a box must withstand being on the bottom
of a pile of other boxes with a weight of 200+ pounds.  The larger the box,
the more likely it will be on the bottom of the pile.  Imagine someone
shipping 20 starter motors and they all get placed on top of your box - in
the center - in one tall pile.  Then someone drops one of the motors and the
corner hits your box from a height of 4 feet.  If it survives, you have a
strong enough box -  everything else is just luck.  They do pay their
insurance claims a lot quicker than the post office.

John Jenks wrote:

 Well the USPS broke both planes.   These were the packages that were
 1/4" luan plywood covered in cardboard 80" long (spent an entire
 Saturday making the boxes).  The planes were in perfect condition on
 departure and somehow one wing and both tails were broken.  Actually one
 tail only had a puncture wound.  I packed the planes as best I could
 using 100% peanuts in one and peanuts and packing paper in the other.
 The one with the peanuts and packing paper is the one with the broken
 wing and crushed tail.  This is also the one with the "Extremely
 Fragile" sign on it.  I think the person who suggested cardboard
 supported with blue foam is probably right on target.  I 'm done sending
 planes.

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