Re: [RCSE] K-2 from NSP / MH32 airfoil
The pointy thing goes to the back? No wonder I'm having problems. Thanks. Rich. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] skegs on sailplanes
Hey, Tim McCann has to make a living too! Skegs Rule! The landing area at the SW CLASSIC has been overseeded for the winter but it is patchy. Skegs will be both helpful and numerous. My plane will be bristling with skegs!!! Thanks Tim! Garland Hanson CASL - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mike Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] skegs on sailplanes > Hi Daryl, > I just read your comments on skegs,etc. and I agree with most of what you > said. I am a ham and use ham frequencies, but I don't sandbag. I think > called up flight order > is something we should do at all our contests. We used to do this in our > powered > free flight planes. We also gave the pilots 3 minutes to get in the air. > This makes things a little more equal all the way around. > Best regards, > Art > > > [Original Message] > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Mike Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 1/31/00 9:04:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [RCSE] skegs on sailplanes > > > > Most of you know, I've flown all over the world. The rest of the world > simply doesn't understand our way of TD flying and scoring. > > The reality is that our tasks have evolved over the years to take into > account the tiny little postage stamp flying fields we are > > required to sometimes fly from. Most pilots from other countries would > laugh histerically if they ever attended Visalia, and saw the > > little clump of grass we are required to land on downwind every year. Why > is it like this? Real estate - it is at a premium, and we > > are losing flying sites left and right. We're lucky to have the ones we > have - especially in Southern California. > > > > I hate our landing tasks, and the value put on high landing points at a > contest - but that's the way it is. Our TD contests are > > about what happens when the plane hits the ground - not about what > happens in the air. I think this is a shame, but there isn't > > enough time in the day to hold a true thermal duration event - that Joe > guy would just run out of batteries. Every one else would > > follow him around the sky. There has to be a differentiator (Is that a > word?) What will this be? Hmmm, landing? > > > > Now, skegs - again the reality of small sites, and poor flying skills. > It's very easy for the purists to argue we don't need them. > > "Sure, just learn how to land," they say. Yeah, right! If we eliminate > skegs, do you really believe that all the soaring pilots who > > already have trouble hitting the spot with skegs are going to go out and > practice now? No, they won't. They're flying for fun. What > > you've just created is making an unsafe pilot and situation MORE unsafe. > Things happen in contests that don't normally happen during > > fun flying. Everybody wants those landing points, and they're sure as > heck not going to come up short. So, they're carrying energy - > > LOTS of it. Oops, there goes my shins, your shins, and alot of leading > edges. > > > > Our landing tape - Is it absurd? Probably. But it doesn't really matter. > As long as everyone is landing on the same tape, it's > > plenty fair. It's actually more fair than the FAI tapes. I like 1 point > increments as opposed to 5 point increments. FAI tapes - You > > could drop 5 points by simply being out 1/2". We're going to a contest in > Phoenix this weekend where it will be scored at 1 point > > per inch away from the nail. Averaging 85's will win this contest. Maybe > even 80's. I do hope the purists leave their skegs at > > home, and bring a lot planes! ;-) Or at least EPP LE's. > > > > So, how do we make contests more fair in the states? I don't have the > answer to that. I do have a few ideas: > > > > 1. Eliminate sandbagging - called flight order. Give a guy 3 minutes(Or a > specified amount of time - field layout dependent) after > > he's called to hook up to the winch. One of my pet peaves is the guys who > fly on ham bands to eliminate freq. conflicts, and sit on > > the pin awaiting the lift cycles. This is an unfair advantage, and more > importantly, is just a pussy move. > > 2. When capable - try holding a man on man contest. Takes less time than > you'd think. You don't have to wait for each flight group > > to land prior to launching the next group. Can be accomplished with a > little planning. Can also be done with only 2 - 3 winches, not > > optimum, but can be done. > > 3. Make the flight times challenging - this 3, 5, 7 crap is boring. Our > planes have gotten so efficient, and the tasks haven't kept > > up. Who cares if nobody makes their times? It's called Thermal Duration, > isn't it? Shouldn't the guy who flies the longest get the > > win? > > 4. Make the landing tasks fair - no huge landing bonus equalling 1/3 or > even 1/2 of the flight time for hitting a postage stamp. > > That 1/2" in or out thing mak
Re: Re(2): [RCSE] Why we shouldn't inhale lead fumes (or eat ballast)
At room temperature, Lead has no vapor pressure. - Original Message - From: Jim Ealy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 1:11 PM Subject: Re(2): [RCSE] Why we shouldn't inhale lead fumes (or eat ballast) > Lead shot and vapors > > Lead is without doubt the main culprit in "mental retardation" in > children. Even thinking about melting lead - using lead solder in (near) > a house with small children is irresponsible. The vapor - leaded gasoline > - has been shown to have a nearly perfect cause and positive effect with > vegetable gardens: mental retardation and distance of garden from major > highways. Remember all of my (your) handlaunched gliders used a small > sliver of lead from toothpaste tubes and clay - that is why I am the way I > am ;>) Lead soldered canned foods was a disastor, lead water pipes, lead > paint. Paint used lead compounds, one compound was sweet tasting, like > sugar, kids licked the paint off of walls. The list goes on--even if > you tolerated (read macho) it, do not use it for the sake of your kids or > grand kids. > > buy a 25 lbs bag of lead shot for $13.95 and cover it with epoxy in the > nose, drill a small hole, bigger than the shot and then you get add to > delete nose weight.. At room temperatures, the vapor pressure is low, > very low compared to mecury. > > jim > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] K-2 from NSP / MH32 airfoil
Jill and Rick Brown wrote: > If you overlay the two foils in Compufoil the MH32 is very nearly a copy > of the 7037. Very slight difference. Yea, they're both roundish in front and pointy at the back. The SD7037 is thicker, has a cusp on the bottom, and seams to carry the upper surface higher back, (bubble ramp?). Yeah, very slight difference to me. Rich B RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Why we shouldn't inhale lead fumes (or eat ballast)
Jim Ealy wrote: > Lead shot and vapors You think lead is bad, I remember a guy you used to fly with that said used depleted uranium. Rich B RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] skegs on sailplanes
Michael Neverdosky wrote: > How about shorter winch lines? > a 100 meter line. > Does a 100 yard line make thousands of readily available sites leap to mine? Gee, they even have the landing task set up already, between the poles, under the bar to the spot. Rich B RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Airtronics servos
I am looking for a good source at the best price for Airtronics servos. Anyone got some good info? Cliff Lindgren RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: [RCSE]...airfoil (7037)
Jill and Rick Brown wrote: > > < respond.>> > I have had 3 open class TD gliders with the 7037 airfoil. 1 Genesis, 1 Victory (obechi) and 1 Victory C (C/F). The Genesis was definitely the fastest of the 3. It has less area and weighs more than the Victories. It would perform well with ALOT of camber dialed in once it was in a thermal. The Victory was quite a bit slower. It has larger flaps than the Genesis, and would slow waaay down (comparitively). It too, would do well with camber, but just not as much. If too much was dialed in, the handling became sluggish and it would want to fall into a turn. The Victory C came in about 4-1/2 ounces less than the wood skin version. (lighter tail, CF pushrods, gear farther forward) It flies very noticably slower than the other two planes. It also seems to perform better with less camber. It will circle slower than it's predecessors without dropping a wing or the nose. ( I added trilerons to it, and now it will really hang a wing tip.) I haven't yet ballasted it up, as it still penetrates in our mild SoCal winds. I have a hollow steel wing rod that I have been planning to fill with lead, so I will try it soon (yeah, right). So, what airfoil do you want? How fast do you need to go? Wiggle your sticks David Judson Riverside, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re: [RCSE]... MH32 airfoil (vs. 7037)
I just realized maybe your were not asking about just TD, which is what was on my mind at the time. In that case. On the slope I like the NSP Sparrow, RG15. Or the Patton Aircraft Mini-P51 is a ball, I don't know what foil. Also have a DAW Me109 combat. Of course it feel like a dog after flying the Mini-P51. HL, I fly 7080 or 6063 bagged stuff. Back to the 7037. If you set it up with the right amount of reflex and ballast your plane a bit it flys kinda nice. Don't you think. I know I'm jumping ahead in the schedule but we do have to decide which airfoil is best for TD. Don't we? RB Thanks for asking. Jill and Rick Brown wrote: > > Gordy, > > A Victory with, gee, what was that foil? Oh yeah, a 7037. HA. > > RB > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > hey RB what planes are you flying? > > > > Gordy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] MILAN
Hi All Anyone out there in sailplane land flying the Milan from Multi Plex? TIA, Rich RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] John Roe ?
John, Could you contact me. I would like to ask you about your new HLG you are flying. TIA, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: [RCSE]... MH32 airfoil (vs. 7037)
Paul, Excuss me for being too simple in my response. The MH32 is the same shape. I belive if you modify the 7037 thin it a little and decamber it just a bit you end up with the MH32. Thus the speed and penetration. By the way how much of a dog is the 7037? Anyone who flys it may respond. Sorry, RB Paul Klissner wrote: > > That's interesting, because my Dominator has an MH32 airfoil, > and it *moves* quick, even unballasted. It was one of the first > things I noticed about that glider. It just cruises and penetrates > even when its not carrying. > > I don't know how much the planform contributes to its speed > and locomotion alone, but I thought that 7037 is notoriously slow, > and good primarily for hang-time. > > So if the MH32 and 7037 look so similar, why the apparent > discrepancy in behavior? > > -Paul > > Jill and Rick Brown wrote: > > > If you overlay the two foils in Compufoil the MH32 is very nearly a copy > > of the 7037. Very slight difference. > > > > RB > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Forgot to add question regarding airfoil. Not familiar with the European > > > sections, is the MH32 airfoil anything like a 7037?? > > > > > > Anyone familiar with the K-2 Ship from NSP. Looks like it has all > > > the attributes of the more expensive molded F3J ships on the market. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Gus > > > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] PsykoLogic FS
Hi Gang, The PsykoLogic has been sold. You guys in Ohio better lookout for Dana Flemming this year in the Midwest HLG Series. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: [RCSE]... MH32 airfoil (vs. 7037)
That's interesting, because my Dominator has an MH32 airfoil, and it *moves* quick, even unballasted. It was one of the first things I noticed about that glider. It just cruises and penetrates even when its not carrying. I don't know how much the planform contributes to its speed and locomotion alone, but I thought that 7037 is notoriously slow, and good primarily for hang-time. So if the MH32 and 7037 look so similar, why the apparent discrepancy in behavior? -Paul Jill and Rick Brown wrote: > If you overlay the two foils in Compufoil the MH32 is very nearly a copy > of the 7037. Very slight difference. > > RB > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Forgot to add question regarding airfoil. Not familiar with the European > > sections, is the MH32 airfoil anything like a 7037?? > > > > Anyone familiar with the K-2 Ship from NSP. Looks like it has all > > the attributes of the more expensive molded F3J ships on the market. > > > > Thanks > > Gus > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re: smelting lead
Silver solder is I believe more expensive. How much I don't know. It is usually used in refrigeration work. Heat pumps, coolers and freezers. It has a higher melting point and is usually done with a torch. RB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > At Home Depot they have lead free"silver" solder in rolls of large guage..how > would that be? Is it really silver? is it meant for solder gun or propane > torch? > Rodger > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]