Re: [RCSE] QFI?

2000-07-18 Thread Orbitone

I just ordered the QFI via credit card...
anyone know how long it will take for my first issue
thanks alot.. Mike.M
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 Kieth,

 You can subscribe to QFI by going to:www.traplet.com  and follow
the
 links to modeling magazines and subscriptions. You can also contact the
 Traplet USA at: (217) 328  or Toll free: 1 800 695 0208.

 Great magazine BTW.

 Thermals,
 Tom

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RE: [RCSE] cleaning up the list

2000-07-18 Thread regis white

Define "pennance".  :-)

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just an afterthought from a quiet weekend with the list...

maybe when all the posts come through, all who posted;

"is the list down?"

should pay a pennance..

:-)

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[RCSE] Re: Pouring lead into tubes

2000-07-18 Thread AMA3655

Dennis -

I've found that If I left the tube ends lightly rolled (just like the tube cutter 
leaves them) the lead stays in fine. I'd recommend against doing anything while the 
lead is still hot - molten lead is scary stuff. If the lead falls out just use a 
larger tube, pull the lead out, and keep the tube for the next set of weights.

For that really "high performance" ballast try a piece of CMW2000 from CMW Inc., of 
Indiannapolis, IN. 95W,3.5Ni,1.5Fe;.650lb/cubic in. It's much more compact than lead, 
and it won't get dented by much in the event of a hard landing (including armored 
vehicles);-)

have fun - Rob Glover


 Greetings, I'm making ballast in brass tubes that are 1" dia and 1" long. I poured 
last night and the lead shrank in diameter enough that it easily fell out of the 
tubes. This might not be too much of a problem for a smaller diameter tube.

 Should I: 
 Heat the brass tubes as I pour, Press the lead down before it cools and just after I 
pour, Epoxy the lead in after it cools, Press the cooled lead causing it to expand and 
match the tube[I can make a fixture to hold the tube to diameter], Roll the ends of 
the tubes to prevent the cooled lead from escaping[easy for me to do also]?

 I think any of those would work, what have you found that works for you?
 =
 Dennis Phelan
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Re: [RCSE] There's nothin' like a nice hot winch

2000-07-18 Thread Raschow

In a message dated 7/17/00 9:24:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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 What's up with the winch?  Any ideas? 

Terminal not sufficiently tight and/or dirty lug/terminal contact surfaces - 
wirebrushing at the start of every flying session a very good idea.  A thin 
coat of alum. powder loaded anti-seize compound (available in auto parts 
stores) on the terminal threads will avoid wingnut seizing/galling due to 
heat when a bad connection does occur.
Good Lift!
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[RCSE] Re: Covering with Microfilm

2000-07-18 Thread David L. Stone

A mix of something sort of like model airplane dope (but not quite) is
poured over a wide pan of water, and it spreads out like an oil slick.  
The mix floats on the water until it sets, at which point a frame
(submerged in the water) is pulled up under it

Hey this brings back fond memories of my transmission electron microscope
days when we did a procedure similar to this (we first poured a bit of the
solution onto a glass slide, let it dry, then floated the film off the
slide onto the surface of water) to provide an ultra-thin support for
samples to sit on. The solution is called collodion. The solvent was amyl
acetate (pentacetate--smells like banana extract), and the material that
was dissolved in it was nitrocellulose--see
http://www.collodion.org/qa.html. It was very tough stuff; I remember
because I occasionally had to make up a new solution using the solvent and
strips of nitrocellulose, and the strips were extremely stiff. We always
did it in a fume hood. Although we wanted our films to be extremely thin,
I'd guess you could control the thickness of the film by varying the
concentration of the collodion solution. 

David
Berkeley CA USA
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RE: [RCSE] Pouring lead into tubes

2000-07-18 Thread Tony Rogers

Why not pour into tubes the same diam as your wing tubes.  When the lead
cools and shrinks, it will fit the wing tubes perfectly, with no jacketing.
Just a thought...

Tony Rogers
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Precision Interconnect  503/603-4750

 poured last night and the lead shrank in diameter enough that it
 easily fell out of the tubes. 
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[RCSE]

2000-07-18 Thread Duane Asami

Hi all,

Just a note to tell people who have been keeping track of our woes that all 
is not lost, at least not that we know of.  If anyone is interested in 
following this little saga, please go to our club website and check into the 
Project Maluhia link on the Club News page.

If anyone has any input on how to approach the Boy Scouts to get written 
permission to continue to fly there, we are wide open to suggestions.  Check 
out the link first, though, to see what we've already tried and what all has 
been going on with this situation.

Club Site:
http://communities.msn.com/MISO

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A hui hou,

Duane

Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 15:04:48 -0400
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Subject: Soccer field construction started today at Camp Maluhia

For those of you that don't know, this is terrible news. Camp Maluhia, on 
the island of Maui, has got to be one of the best slopes in the world. There 
is excellent lift there probably 95% of the time, the weather is almost
always ideal, the view is fantastic and the landing area is close to 
perfect. Of all the slopes that I have been to, this is still my favorite. 
The fact that this slope is probably going to be lost saddens me.

Randy Bullard

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[RCSE] perception of distance, hlg height etc

2000-07-18 Thread Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner

Human ability to percieve distance is largely a learned skill, and as with
most 'seeing' tasks, we rarely realize how subject to error it may be. While
distance estimates may be good in a certain environment, with certain kinds
of visual cues, it is no surprise that when trying to estimate the distances
of our hlg's, we might regularly err. There is very little up there to use
for known object comparisons, focus comparisons, and even the overlap of
receding landscape is not of much use. The glider is often the only thing to
focus on and I think this leads to easy errors in perception.

My experience suggests that we (rc pilots) tend to underestimate numeric
distances, but overestimate actual positions (thinking we're further away in
terms of being over a landmark, than we actually are). The few times I
really methodically checked my ideas about 'how far out over the water' I
was flying at my local lakefront hill, I was embarrassed to find out how
much further out I thought I was than I actually was. I've since tried to
modify my perception by always adding some margin to distance perceptions.
If I'm cruising over to try to take advantage of lift over a far away
mini-ridge, I always go a little further than I think it is. Who knows if
this is helping!? Only more testing will give answers. I do have a real
sense that it helps alot to move around and fly the same area from different
places. If you're in the habit of always flying your local spot from one
position, you might consider  moving around some. I have a couple special
spots I like to fly where I can walk the entire time that I'm flying, and
I'll often get in two or three miles of travel in a flying session.

With all the discussion, I am really curious how high my launches are,
though I gotta admit, I tend to think of them as a lot less than a hundred
feet! I don't really know whether my own errors are over or under in trying
to put a number to heights, but when non flyers watch me launch my Chinook,
I know that they almost always underestimate. They'll often say things like
"wow, that thing really went up! What was that, maybe forty feet?" Well,
like I said, I don't know how high my Chinook launch is exactly, but I can
tell ya... its way more than forty feet.

I thought a couple of the comments that Chris Adams made recently were
interesting in this regard. He mentioned that in trying to work with the
laser rangefinder to determine hlg heights, the pilots regularly were sure
they were over the guy with the rangefinder, when in fact they were still
pretty far off. I'd be curious to know whether that error was regular. (Were
they always short of the target spot, or always beyond it?) I'd guess they
were short, based on my experience... maybe Chris will tell us. Chris also
mentioned that even after testing the rangefinder successfully, he still has
a nagging perception that his plane isn't going as high as the rangefinder
says.

I think I'm going to do some more distance perception testing at the local
flying spots. I'll be really curious to see what I can learn about my own
errors, and any general tendencies.

I'd be curious to hear thoughts on any of the above ideas.

Lift,
Scobie in Seattle


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[RCSE] [RCSE]

2000-07-18 Thread David L. Stone

If anyone has any input on how to approach the Boy Scouts to get written 
permission to continue to fly there, we are wide open to suggestions.

For starters, bring along an affectionate girlfriend or current proof of
marriage  :-)

David
Berkeley CA USA
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Re: [RCSE] perception of distance, hlg height etc

2000-07-18 Thread Chuck Anderson

At 02:07 PM 7/18/00 -0700, you wrote:
snip
My experience suggests that we (rc pilots) tend to underestimate numeric
distances, but overestimate actual positions (thinking we're further away in
terms of being over a landmark, than we actually are). The few times I
really methodically checked my ideas about 'how far out over the water' I
was flying at my local lakefront hill, I was embarrassed to find out how
much further out I thought I was than I actually was. 

This may apply to smaller models such as sailplanes, however I think most
people tend to underestimate how far away the model is when flying larger
unlimited or cross country sailplanes.  I have seen many people fly into
the back side of a tree when they were sure they were nowhere near that far
away.  The best example of this was at Visalia a couple of years ago when
Daryl flew his giant scale model into the back side of the factory
southeast of the field.  Most of us thought he was not even half way to the
building.

Chuck Anderson
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[RCSE] Receiver antenna length? - safe to cut?

2000-07-18 Thread Jim Cubbage

* Repost, we were having some problems with the list and it may have
been lost in the shuffle**


Hello,

I have been wondering if it is safe to cut a receiver antenna length or is
it somehow tuned to the frequency length.  For example, in the old days, I
would make my FM antenna 1/4 or even 1/2 wave-length to help reception.  Is
this true for the Rx?  Is the antenna length tuned to the frequency range?
Would trimming it a bit effect performance?

Last part, I have built only fomies with strapping tape, but am progressing
along now.  What about some of the other coverings or materials how do they
affect reception?  For example, I have a HGL I am putting together with a
carbon boom, if I run the antenna through the carbon boom and out the
back-end, can it receive through the carbon ok?

What about some of the covering materials such as Ultracoat or Econocoat?
Do any of these materials have a refracting properties that would inhibit
good reception?

Thanks, with all the talk about the how receivers and types, I figure the
best I can do at the moment is to make sure I give my Tx the best target in
the sky.

Jim Cubbage
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Re: [RCSE] perception of distance, hlg height etc - my vote

2000-07-18 Thread Russ Young

I think most people tend to underestimate how far away the model is
when flying larger
unlimited or cross country sailplanes
The best example of this was at Visalia a couple of years ago when
 Daryl flew his giant scale model into the back side of the factory
 southeast of the field.  Most of us thought he was not even half way to
the
 building.


Actually I think it was Larry Jolly.

What a sight that was...

My vote is with you...he was no where even CLOSE to hitting that building
when he landing on the roof  :)

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[RCSE] Seattle July HLG Contest Results and SURVEY for all HLG Pilots

2000-07-18 Thread Weston, Adam R

Hi All,

It was another great day at 60-Acres Park here in Redmond, WA.  There was a good 
breeze out of the North keeping temperatures in the mid-70's, clear skies and some 
pretty nice thermals made for a fun contest.  A good flight could get you a 3 or 4 
minute time, but the off-field landings were a problem for most of us!  The Bush Pilot 
award goes to Al Bangham who ended up off field, and spent the next couple of hours 
looking for his plane.  He returned triumphant, with several blackberry bush scars to 
prove it (we like to call those Battle Scars)!  Some of the others of us ended up off 
field, but were able to find our planes a little more quickly.

Structural failures were also a problem, wing failures, tail failures, and flutter 
kept several competitors from doing even better than they did.  The Sticky Fingers 
award goes to Paul McKee who flew wonderfully his first round with his Uplink (in his 
first HLG competition), then went out for the second round, and on the first throw his 
entire vertical and horizontal tail assembly departed from the plane!  The fuselage 
and wing continued for an 8.3 second flight, but that was all the more points Paul was 
to get that round.  Not to be discouraged, Paul went back to his car and within 3 
rounds, he was back with a reattached tail and new pushrods!  He went on to fly quite 
well.  

The final standings had Mark Bryan beating out his brother Brent by a mere 77 points 
to take 3rd place.  Come Back (again and again) Kid Joseph Conrad came out of nowhere 
to take 2nd place, and May's HLG contest victor, Dick Barker was triumphant again, 
this time by a hefty 343 point margin.  (BTW, The top four places were all taken by 
Wing-Launched airplanes, see all the results at the bottom of this email).  

So, is Dick and his Discus Launch going to dominate the club?  Will the Bryan family 
replace the Pearson family as the Seattle HLG Mafia?  Will the blackberries be in 
season?  All these questions and more will be answered at the next HLG contest, the 
big AMA sanctioned event August 19th! (www.reddata.com/sass/HLG_00.htm)

Door prizes donated by Thermal-Gromit Works (www.tgworks.com) were presented at the 
conclusion of the contest.  A Model-Down alarm was won by Joseph, who then gave the 
prize to Al so Al wouldn't have to spend so long out in the weeds next time.  Jonathan 
Bryan won a 110 mAh Battery Pack for one of his future planes.  Covering tape and 
hinge tape went to several folks whose names I've forgotten to write down.

SURVEY
Now the survey part:
1. For August 19th 2000, we'd like to get as many folks as possible to show up for the 
event.  I'm curious how many HLG pilots there are in the Pacific Northwest, and what 
it would take to get them to come to Seattle?

2. In 2001 the Seattle Area Soaring Society is planning to hold a 2 day HLG event, 
likely in mid-August.  What would it take to get folks from all over to come to this 
event?  i.e., ask yourself, what would it take for me to drive/fly all the way to 
Seattle?  

Please send my your thoughts on these items and I'll compile them and send them on to 
the SASS 2001 2-Day HLG Events Committee (me and my dog Aileron).

Thermals,

RED
--
Adam Weston
Seattle, WA

July Scores:
Pilot   Rnd 1   Rnd 2   Rnd 3   Rnd 4   Rnd 5   Rnd 6   Rnd 7   Final Score
Dick Barker 100010001000772 1000654 885 6311
Joseph Conrad   667 944 652 957 10001000748 5968
Mark Bryan  667 10001000963 857 720 741 5948
Brent Bryan 1000851 688 1000929 736 667 5871
Jim Pearson 875 972 750 766 687 797 10005847
Phil Pearson778 908 719 749 659 1000941 5754
Adam Weston 778 980 639 1000931 866 497 5691
Jonathan Bryan  667 913 783 757 815 727 870 5532
Tim Johnson 875 869 505 835 581 481 10005146
Lauren Anstead  875 801 778 738 578 557 819 5146
Bruce Kimball   889 741 695 652 624 655 865 5121
Paul McKee  100015  0   0   988 857 980 3840
Tim Naugler 625 758 556 896 426 1   0   3262
David Anstead   625 700 518 321 473 318 0   2955
Alan Bangham625 850 445 274 0   0   0   2194

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[RCSE] perception of distance, hlg height etc

2000-07-18 Thread David L. Stone

but overestimate actual positions (thinking we're further away in
terms of being over a landmark, than we actually are)

Scobie,

Yes, I also tend to over-estimate the plane's distance away from me. The
shadow cast by the plane can sometimes be useful in this regard as an
indication of exactly where the plane is in relation to the ground (of
course the relative positions of sun, plane, and ground have to be
considered).

If Chuck Anderson is correct that larger planes cause the opposite
perceptual error, there should be a particular plane size in-between whose
distance away we can accurately guess!

David
Berkeley CA USA
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Re: [RCSE] perception of distance, hlg height etc

2000-07-18 Thread Bob Pope

Chuck, I believe it was Larry and not Daryl. No real damage was
done. I don't even go near those buildings because they are
deceptive as to distance ( at least to me ).

Chuck Anderson wrote:
 
 The best example of this was at Visalia a couple of years ago when
 Daryl flew his giant scale model into the back side of the factory
 southeast of the field.  Most of us thought he was not even half way to the
 building.
 
 Chuck Anderson
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Re: [RCSE] perception of distance, hlg height etc

2000-07-18 Thread SoarSOSS

Chuck,
  I think that was Larry Jolly.

  Jerry Miller
  SOSS
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