[RCSE] servo wire question
Any opinion as to which is better, twisting or braiding servo wires in the wings up to two feet per side and @ 18" down the fuse? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Truly Daunting landing Task
I think they did an excellent job considering that they do not have to use CA, wing panels, Zagi tape and lead to keep it together. It still works. Chris -Original Message- From: Brett Jaffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: James C Deck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: RCSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Truly Daunting landing Task >James C Deck wrote: > >> Did anyone notice the feat accomplished by landing the space probe on an >> asteroid? Though described as a "dork", >> I find even accomplishing it with a 17 minute lag time truly impressive. > >Well, yes, but its not exactly like radio control. They dont move the "sticks" and then wait for a response 17 minutes later (which would also mean you wouldnt actually see a resonse for 34 minutes). The whole sequence is pre-calculated and uploaded to the spacecraft. After that, they cross their fingers! Still, an impressive feat. > > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Chrysalis fuse wt.
Also, if you did any mods to the fuze or tail, like building it thinner or using alternative materials, lets us know. Thanks, Dave - Original Message - From: "Bill Johns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Soaring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:38 PM Subject: [RCSE] Chrysalis fuse wt. > At 09:01 PM 2/20/2001 -0500, Daniel Olin Miller wrote: > >Yet another vote for the Chrysalis. > > snip > > >I'd keep the fuselage. It's actually very pretty; the pics on DJA's > >website don't do it justice. The front end is pleasantly sharky and the > >aft is graceful. You might get a lighter plane by discarding it, but it > >would lose its charm. > > Idle curiosity. Would folks who have a Chrysalis weight just the fuse and > report back to the masses. I'm wondering about the weight of the fuse less > radio gear so if you have stuff in yours, could you please list the items > so we can make a few estimates as to what the fuse and tail feathers > together weigh. > > Thanks, > > Bill > > -- > There is no such thing as a pretty good alligator wrestler. > > Bill Johns > Pullman, WA > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Chrysalis fuse wt.
At 09:01 PM 2/20/2001 -0500, Daniel Olin Miller wrote: >Yet another vote for the Chrysalis. snip >I'd keep the fuselage. It's actually very pretty; the pics on DJA's >website don't do it justice. The front end is pleasantly sharky and the >aft is graceful. You might get a lighter plane by discarding it, but it >would lose its charm. Idle curiosity. Would folks who have a Chrysalis weight just the fuse and report back to the masses. I'm wondering about the weight of the fuse less radio gear so if you have stuff in yours, could you please list the items so we can make a few estimates as to what the fuse and tail feathers together weigh. Thanks, Bill -- There is no such thing as a pretty good alligator wrestler. Bill Johns Pullman, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Hand Launch Glider Contest Page??
Just wanted to jump in here and mention one of the new 'BIG' HLG contests this year, the Seattle Area Soaring Society will be hosting a two day HLG contest August 11th and 12th. We're inviting anyone and everyone to Seattle for two days of head-to-head competition. There aren't many details on the SASS site yet, but there will be soon (http://www.reddata.com/sass). Feel free to email me if you have any questions, and don't worry, I'll be posting to RCSE a bunch more as the date approaches! Thermals, RED -- Adam Weston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seattle, WA PS. SASS HLG club contests are also open to everyone, those dates: March 17, April 21, May 12, July 14, and September 22. Fun starts at 9am at 60-Acres Park. --- Jeff Winder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > Anyone know where to find a Web site that lists ALL > the 'known' HLG contests > that will be held in the US this season? > > Would be real neat to see a page that listed ALL the > contest Dates with > 'links' to each site. > > I think this would also help raise attendance as > people could plan ahead > where they wanted to go. > > Thanks Again, > Jeff Winder > Cincinnati, OH > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane > News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: HLG Box-of-sticks
Yet another vote for the Chrysalis. With modern radio equipment, I'd say there's no need to go overboard trying to save weight, because the wing is ENORMOUS. A stock C. with submicro radio equipment will come in around 10 oz, which is around 3.5 oz/sqft. Extra effort to keep the tail light (V-tail, balsa longerons, CF pushrods, vigorous sanding to get nice round edges and thin walls abaft) will get it even lower. (For wing loading, compare to 2.9 for Spectre, 4 for Spectre VR, 3 to 3.4 for Feather XL, etc... it's in the range of the best, just gets there by being LARGER.) I'd keep the fuselage. It's actually very pretty; the pics on DJA's website don't do it justice. The front end is pleasantly sharky and the aft is graceful. You might get a lighter plane by discarding it, but it would lose its charm. Do make an effort to keep the tail light. Go with the V-tail option. The lightest thing is to paint it with 2 light coats of water-based polyurethane. If you must cover it, choose an extra light material and hog out some lightening holes as shown on the plan. Because of the wing's open structure, don't go overboard trying to save weight there. Use a full-strength film like Monokote. Use a transparent covering with opaque trim in a complementary color; mine's yellow and blue, and it's lovely! If you're hard on your airframes, extend the front-side shear webs all the way to the bay one before the taper break. You also might do well to CA a bit of fiberglass tape around the LE in the center; this protects things from crushing loads in a dork landing. If you do a bolt-on wing this isn't so much a problem, but for rubber bands it's a great option. Daniel O. Miller BRAIN: Pinky! Are you pondering what I'm pondering? PINKY: I think so, Brain, but why would Peter Bogdanovich? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] penatration
You can do L/D comparisons using a video camera. It's easy except for the precision flying required to get accurate results. Mike+ Diana Reagan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Airtronics Rx's
All three Airtronics pcm rx's are sold. Thanks Larry. Larry Taylor wrote: >Part 1.1Type: Plain Text (text/plain) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] BOOM BOOM ROCKS
Out by LAX it was really loud. Now that the shuttle is going to the space station, the orbit is really highly inclined. That seems to bring it right across this area when it lands at Edwards. In fact, I think it crosses the coast line over Santa Monica. "David J. Schat" wrote: > Ha! The sonic booms from the Space Shuttle scared the poo out of our > receptionist, it rattled the front windows good. Her mom called her also > (She's about 40 miles away) scared. Funny, I was perusing the net about 5 > minutes before it happen reading about the shuttle scheduled to land at > 3:33pm EST and thought it's landing any minute now. The next thing I > know here she comes ranting about the explosions... I told her what it was > after I put 2 & 2 together and she was kinda' disappointed it wasn't some > kind of major disaster. > > Growing up in Bishop CA/Owens Valley, sonic booms were common place... very > exciting for a kid. A, I love the sound of shock waves in the morning. > -Spud Boy > > The hardness of the butter is proportional to the softness of the > bread. > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] "Saw a Psy-Lite Fly in Texas!"
Actually I saw two of them! This past weekend, the soaring God stopped the rain that had covered most of northern Texas for the week (at least) prior to allow their 'season opener' to enjoy warm breezes and sunny skies. ... And I killed! Well killed the HLG fly-off cuz of a pin snafu, (no big deal, phew!) and I killed my record of always being in the top ten in contests of 9 or less:-) However, what I was extremely happy to see was the Psy-Lite from NSP fly in somereally cross section air conditions and under the thumbs of some 'good' pilots, by that I mean competitors, guys who work to make the top 5 in club contests and bigger, guys who have a plan when they step on the field and who have a pretty good idea of how to trim, balance and program a competitive TD ship. You know what I mean, guys like you, not like those few 'great' pilots who seem to be blessed with good air and a knack for turning the right way when the air is tight. Guys who by having a really good ship, gain a few points of advantage. So what the heck is a Psy-Lite? Sal would call it a something cool like Fusion or some of you would recognize it's previous name Schpot Dorker (not a name that should ever be on these works of majic we call sailplanes). Still don't know which plane I mean? How about the light version of the Psyko? But it wasn't the P-L's weight that shown so brightly last Sunday, it was it's all around ability to get around in the strong but intermittant winds, or the tight swirling thermals, and the really graceful, controlled decents to the landing tape time after time. Were the launches that much more spectacular than any of the other ships there? Nope, pretty much all of the planes we fly launch well now days. The P-L's were no exception to that, they climbed up the line on rails and pinged off the top to shoot off toward the ridge of lift collecting way out in front where the houses and roads made a barrier. I saw the P-L tick off time on a run back from bad sink, just swirling and swirling in a puff traveling back down wird toward us, to keep it's pilot in the mix for wood. And afterward, I saw it's pilot collect the prize for second, out of a tough group. It wasn' t 'just' the pilot this time, cuz it was this particular P-L's FIRST flights of its life. To me that says a lot, it says someone thought alot about what was important to TD ships flown by us 'regular' contestants. Designed to be steady and reliable and, well, sort of helpful to it's pilot when he needs a little extra to get the task. The NSP TD ship evolution has come a long way, I think a lot of guys will appreciate all that NSP pig-heady courage to keep on working toward a 'better' plane. I doubt that the NSP design 'team' is done, cuz each plane they have made has opened eyes to more possibilities. If I were asked to sum up what the Psy-Lite was like, I think I would have to say that it has the easy, comfortable feel of the Victory, and the bold aggressiveness of the Edge only its stronger than both and lighter than both :-) And that's what I saw last Sunday in Dallas, can't wait to see what I will see in Orlando this weekend! (the problem is that all those Buzzards are such close friends they probably won' t let me fly on Saturdayit's a 2m contest :-) (get it friends--2m???never mind.) Gordy Sunburned face in Tampa
[RCSE] BOOM BOOM ROCKS
Ha! The sonic booms from the Space Shuttle scared the poo out of our receptionist, it rattled the front windows good. Her mom called her also (She's about 40 miles away) scared. Funny, I was perusing the net about 5 minutes before it happen reading about the shuttle scheduled to land at 3:33pm EST and thought it's landing any minute now. The next thing I know here she comes ranting about the explosions... I told her what it was after I put 2 & 2 together and she was kinda' disappointed it wasn't some kind of major disaster. Growing up in Bishop CA/Owens Valley, sonic booms were common place... very exciting for a kid. A, I love the sound of shock waves in the morning. -Spud Boy The hardness of the butter is proportional to the softness of the bread. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] (RCSE) Help on lift equations
Hello, I am doing a Science Fair project that compares airspeed and lift relationships. Does anyone know where I could find some equations that have to do with the relationship of lift and airspeed? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ryan Baldi RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Truly Daunting landing Task
James C Deck wrote: > Did anyone notice the feat accomplished by landing the space probe on an > asteroid? Though described as a "dork", > I find even accomplishing it with a 17 minute lag time truly impressive. Well, yes, but its not exactly like radio control. They dont move the "sticks" and then wait for a response 17 minutes later (which would also mean you wouldnt actually see a resonse for 34 minutes). The whole sequence is pre-calculated and uploaded to the spacecraft. After that, they cross their fingers! Still, an impressive feat. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Stratos with digital camera+video xmtr
There is a little subtlety that may have been overlooked by those enjoying the videos shot from Tom's plane and suggesting other maneuvers. When he is flying, he is wearing VR glasses and pilots from the video image he sees in the glasses ... not from viewing the actual plane as seen from the ground. That is, it is as if he were actually in the pilot's seat. I assure you that watching the monitor as Tom flies sometimes sometimes makes me wish for a dose of dramamine. 8-) You may recall that this report of Tom's latest exploits follows one where he was shot down by someone turning on a transmitter on his frequency while he was in flight. 8-( Clearly, there is no keeping a good man down! (the other) Dave in Berkeley, California RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Truly Daunting landing Task
Did anyone notice the feat accomplished by landing the space probe on an asteroid? Though described as a "dork", I find even accomplishing it with a 17 minute lag time truly impressive. They even kept it right side up! Kinda like trying today's precision TD landings with old rubber band escapement equipment. Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Hand Launch Glider Contest Page??
Also if you have an event HL or not please post it on http://www.multiplexrc.com/events.htm Smooth Sailing, Karlton Spindle http://www.MultiplexRC.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Hand Launch Glider Contest Page?? > In a message dated 2/20/2001 10:08:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Anyone know where to find a Web site that lists ALL the 'known' HLG > contests > that will be held in the US this season? > > Would be real neat to see a page that listed ALL the contest Dates with > 'links' to each site. >> > Al the good ones are at http://home.att.net/~items/HLTriad/index.htm > :-) :-)Bill G. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Hand Launch Glider Contest Page??
In a message dated 2/20/2001 10:08:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Anyone know where to find a Web site that lists ALL the 'known' HLG contests that will be held in the US this season? Would be real neat to see a page that listed ALL the contest Dates with 'links' to each site. >> Al the good ones are at http://home.att.net/~items/HLTriad/index.htm :-) :-)Bill G. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Hand Launch Glider Contest Page??
Hello, Anyone know where to find a Web site that lists ALL the 'known' HLG contests that will be held in the US this season? Would be real neat to see a page that listed ALL the contest Dates with 'links' to each site. I think this would also help raise attendance as people could plan ahead where they wanted to go. Thanks Again, Jeff Winder Cincinnati, OH RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] CSS Memorial Contest
Cincinnati Soaring Society May Memorial contest The first stop on this years OVSS contest season is in Cincinnati, Ohio on May 19&20. There will be two days of seeded man-on-man unlimited class thermal flying. Trophies to fifth place each day with an overall trophy for the weekend. Fees are $15 per day. There will be a low cost BBQ lunch available on field each day. For more information please contact CD's Barry Anderson at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or Ed Franz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] For maps to the field and hotel information see the CSS web site at www.cincinnatisoaring.org. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] JR 610 receivers
Minority or not - much criticism has been posted about the JR 610. Then I got an email from a list member that said he had an early 610 that worked perfectly. Now I surmise that the design WAS proven before marketed. Some of the post on this list would have suggested otherwise. Something must have gone wrong AFTER the original design and manufacture (first release) - (Possibly as a cost saving effort). Just a guess on my part. Since I have mostly JR, I want to believe that they didn't release an 'obviously' poor product. And I am happy to hear that they are 'making good' on the inferior models. Regis -Original Message- From: Alan Bangham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 1:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] JR 610 receivers Well apparently I am in the minority as I happen to believe that sailplane vendor performance is soaring related... Good knowledge that could have saved me much frustration. I have also slammed the offending party when the opportunity surfaced. However today I am pleased to give three cheers to Horizon for replacing/upgrading my two 610m receivers at no charge. Cheer! Cheer! Cheer! Does anyone have reliable first hand knowledge as to what the changes are, in addition to or besides a longer antenna? Just for the sake of knowledge, knowledge is power! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] foam trainer
In light of recent queries to the exchange, I am re-submitting my comments from several years ago regarding the DAW 126 2M: I see a lot of enthusiasm for the DAW 126 hand launch as a first plane. Wanting something bigger for training my kids and others at the club, I went with the 2M TG-3. This is a fun plane, especially on the slope, and is truly unbreakable. It is a bit heavy for thermaling, however, and it has a pretty thick airfoil. Enter the 2M 126, also by Daves. A member of our club bought some for trainers and for novice contest prizes. This plane is intended to be built with alerons. but for our purpose we definately wanted a rudder-elevator setup. Dave said it should work fine, as long as we put a poly break in the wing and increased the fin and rudder areas by 15%. We built according to the plans, except that we cut the wing 12 inches from each tip and with the inboard panel flat on the table, we blocked the tip up 3".(about 15 degrees, I think) 3/32 birch ply was used to make a couple of 2" long polyhedral braces to fit the back of the spars at each poly break. The subspar in front of the aileron was ommitted, and the ailerons simply glued to the trailing edge of the foam core. I respected Dave's comments regarding hot glue on the spars. It is heavy, and all you need is a little along the bottom of each spar. My next 126 will have balsa outer spars. The hard balsa tail material was sliced up to make a built up tail. 3/8" wide pieces were use for the outer perimeter of all surfaces, and 1/8" strips were cut for the internal trusswork. The fin and rudder areas were increased, as mentioned above, and the elevator area reduced by 20% . Oracover was used for the built-up tails, and coloured packing tape was used everywhere else, in the interests of cost, weight, and ease of repair. This plane came out light, at about 26 ounces. Subsequent planes had Oracover throughout, which looked better and made it easier to adjust washout. I reccomend reducing the fibreglass tape on the top of the wing by 50%, as it provides no compression strength. We have had a wing failure, but only from ridiculous attemts at zoom-launching on powerful winches, which is pointless anyway, as the plane isn't clean or heavy enough to benifit from this practice. The flying characteristics are simply superb. Launching is predictable, thermaling is great, and penetration is quite good compared to most trainers. This glider is quite sensitive to Cof G, as we found out when we built a second one with a heavier tail. It wouldn't track properly until nose weight was added then-voila. Crash-worthness was attested to when a radio glitch caused it to go straight in from 200' with NO DAMAGE! DAW 126 2M. Get one!
[RCSE] Right of way
Good Morning Well My posts took two days to go through. I have no idea why. I have been recieving posts, But not mine.. The subject of winch right of way is resolved thanks to all who posted. Thanks for all the info! In conclusion it was the fault of both parties. The AMA rule does not apply in a non-contest situation. Common sence does apply. Thanks again! Charlie
[RCSE] Spectrum F3B
I recently purchased a plane called a Spectrum F3B, I believe it was built by Ron Vann in California in 1995. Does anyone know if these planes are still being built and/or how to get in touch with Mr. Vann? Thanks JJC
