Re: [RCSE] Get Kids (of all ages) Soaring!
Once we get this going a little we will start LSF level 1 programs. The Panda class should be a boon to soaring. Smooth Sailing, Karlton Spindle http://www.MultiplexRC.com - Original Message - From: "Jack Strother" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Karlton Spindle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Soaring List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Get Kids (of all ages) Soaring! > Karlton, et all > This offer is too Kool > Those, that know you already, Know, that you are Most generous to the hobby. > For those of you who do not know Mr. Spindle, this is the kind of fella he > is, all the time. > I would urge all LSF Club Coordinators , to speak to their clubs, about > this offer. > The Plane will do fine and the radio is just what a beginner needs. Not too > much, not too little !!! > We all would like to see more kids and / or beginners get into soaring, and > this is certainly cheaper than when I started. > Thanks for the Bandwidth > Jack Strother > LSF President > > > At 09:54 AM 4/18/01 -0700, Karlton Spindle wrote: > >I have a desire to get kids in to soaring at as many clubs or parks as I > >can. (but I am limited to the USA) So I have developed an offer for any > >club or person that wants to help promote soaring to local kids (of any > >age). > > > >Here is the deal we all know we want kids to get in to soaring or R/C and > >most have little to no money. I would also like to see kids BUILD a plane > >rather then take it out of a box. For some reason I think they will stay > >with it longer if it is viewed as NON disposable or they have to work to get > >her in the air. :) > > > >So if your club has kids that come out and you want to help them I am > >willing to do our Panda plane so cheap it is almost a give away. $30.00 also > >I will do a special price on PICO radio to go with it so your club can get a > >person in the air for UNDER $200.00 in fact $185.00. > > > >The radio will be a PICO line TX + IPD 7ch RX with 2 Cockpit BB servos > >switch harness, crystals, receiver nicad pack AND PICO Charger. The radio > >is a computer radio with 4 mixes built in. As it comes it is a 4ch TX BUT > >as the pilot gets better and or changes planes they can add the other > >channels. > > > >This is for clubs and or people to get others in to soaring. > >http://www.multiplexrc.com/panda.htm > >http://www.multiplexrc.com/tx_pico.htm > >http://www.multiplexrc.com/prod_images/accessories/9_2526.jpg > > > >If you or your club wants to do a PANDA project call me and we will get you > >going! > >800 375-1312. > > > >Smooth Sailing, > >Karlton Spindle > >http://www.MultiplexRC.com > > > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > >and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Get Kids (of all ages) Soaring!
Karlton, et all This offer is too Kool Those, that know you already, Know, that you are Most generous to the hobby. For those of you who do not know Mr. Spindle, this is the kind of fella he is, all the time. I would urge all LSF Club Coordinators , to speak to their clubs, about this offer. The Plane will do fine and the radio is just what a beginner needs. Not too much, not too little !!! We all would like to see more kids and / or beginners get into soaring, and this is certainly cheaper than when I started. Thanks for the Bandwidth Jack Strother LSF President At 09:54 AM 4/18/01 -0700, Karlton Spindle wrote: >I have a desire to get kids in to soaring at as many clubs or parks as I >can. (but I am limited to the USA) So I have developed an offer for any >club or person that wants to help promote soaring to local kids (of any >age). > >Here is the deal we all know we want kids to get in to soaring or R/C and >most have little to no money. I would also like to see kids BUILD a plane >rather then take it out of a box. For some reason I think they will stay >with it longer if it is viewed as NON disposable or they have to work to get >her in the air. :) > >So if your club has kids that come out and you want to help them I am >willing to do our Panda plane so cheap it is almost a give away. $30.00 also >I will do a special price on PICO radio to go with it so your club can get a >person in the air for UNDER $200.00 in fact $185.00. > >The radio will be a PICO line TX + IPD 7ch RX with 2 Cockpit BB servos >switch harness, crystals, receiver nicad pack AND PICO Charger. The radio >is a computer radio with 4 mixes built in. As it comes it is a 4ch TX BUT >as the pilot gets better and or changes planes they can add the other >channels. > >This is for clubs and or people to get others in to soaring. >http://www.multiplexrc.com/panda.htm >http://www.multiplexrc.com/tx_pico.htm >http://www.multiplexrc.com/prod_images/accessories/9_2526.jpg > >If you or your club wants to do a PANDA project call me and we will get you >going! >800 375-1312. > >Smooth Sailing, >Karlton Spindle >http://www.MultiplexRC.com > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" >and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Harley's Hookers
Fellows. . .The only subject I sent mail about on the 18th was the Harley's Hookers panel retainer idea. I can't explain it, but I'm getting copies of a slug of RCSE mail on various unrelated subjects that shows me as the sender. Only my e-mail address is shown on these unrelated messages, so I can't respond to those who actually sent them. If any of you are anticipating an answer to something, try me again, in response to this post. "Jack D". The plastic strips do not stretch. Note in the 2nd sketch that there is a screw that can be tightened to provide resistance to disengaging if that is what you meant. "Joe". . .your name was at the bottom of one of the wierd e-mails I got showing me as the sender. If you wanted me to send you the drawing, I can send a .bmp file. Write me again, please so I have your address. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Model Rocket Engines on a Pico Jet
There was a guy in Phx. that was in to the high end rocket gliders, he was going to put one of the aerotec reloadable motors in a 6oz. version of my 36" delta wing. His motor would put his 7oz. plane to over 1000 ft. The motor can be configured with different nozzles and amounts of fuel. He had it set to put out about 23oz. of thrust for 9 seconds, really cool stuff. Mark Mech [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aerofoam.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Model Rocket Engines on a Pico Jet
Paul, A group of us here in southern Maryland are doing the very same thing. We are using a rather tired looking combat foamie, a Studio B Foaminator, loaded with some serious rocket propulsion. I don't know if this has ever been done before, probably has, but we are having a blast. Flight testing began during lunch breaks. Our first launch was with a D-12 engine. This was rather disappointing-very under powered. Since then we have worked our way up to E's, F's and finally a G-40 motor. This is about a large as you can go without an explosives licensee. Each motor letter increase, doubles the specific impulse. Each time we stepped up to a larger motor, I fully expected my "Rocket Foaminator" to disintegrate, never to be seen again. So far it hasn't. This thing is just a dot when reaching the apex. Hang time is reasonable. All the fun is in the fire and smoke. Hard to imagine this glider, made of foam and tape belching fire out its belly, powered with up to 18 pounds of thrust! This thing easily exceeds 125 mph. DS one way. Up!! The Foaminator is 48" span, straight mid wing ship, with a Corplast V-tail. Epp foam throughout. The actual rocket conversion took less than an hour. It involves cutting a channel in the fuse for the motor just behind the wing trailing edge, angled up at about 15-20 degrees, passing through the airplane vertical cg. I made this cut using a sharpened ~29 mm aluminum tube. You know you've got the thrust line through the cg when the airplane, with tube imbedded in the foam, can balance on the end of the tube. Next just insert a standard cardboard 29 mm motor mount in the channel you cut and tape it in place with filament tape. The forward end of the tube needs to be sealed off to hold the motor and facilitate ejection. Our motors are held in the tube by friction and thrust. They eject 4 to 7 seconds after burnout and just free fall. This gets rid of some weight for the glide home. Most importantly, the plane must be balanced with the motor in place before the launch. As we change motors in the field, I add or subtract weight as required. The forward cg shift after motor ejection is inconsequential. I have several mpg video clips of the launches, but no web site to post them. I am willing to e-mail them offline to anyone interested. If anyone has a web site I can post to, that would be better yet. Ken Yunger -Original Message- From: Paul Klissner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 1:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Model Rocket Engines on a Pico Jet I saw a Pico Jet at Coyote today. That was a sharp-looking little foamie. And (the part I love), it wasn't covered with tape (I hate taping models, personal thing). This was a neat teal color, of what looked like EPP or similar. Anyway, it looks like it would be really fun to find a safe way and environment in which to put a rocket engine in and have a hoot (I'm talking about the little Estes engines). If one was to do this (again, putting safety first), where would one attach the engines? What about thrust vectoring, and the possibility of C.G. shift? Is this absurd? I don't know, but for some reason it just seems fun (to do in a safe way in a safe place). -Paul RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] HLG Tasks
Hi Tom. Thanks for the comments. We at the ECHLC, like the IHLGF, have made the conscious decision not to totally re-make the contest based upon what may happen, but rather to learn from 2001 and grow into the future. 2001 is going to have to be a test bed for us all (especially experiences from the ECHLC, IHLGF and NATS) for what changes need to occur downstream in tasks, rounds, rules, separate divisions, etc for this entire 1.5 meter aspect of the hobby. The paramount concern for now is safety, safety, safety. We literally had dozens of proposals, handicap schemes, etc. offered up to us that in one way of the other are lacking (if we make a huge task as you suggest in your e-mail to address the DSLers launch height then the overhand guys are still at a disadvantage if there is no lift). There is a huge evolutional shift going on. Even the DSL flyers are out-innovating designs that were considered extraordinary just a few months ago. Some even posit that DSL will be the death of competition as any task times will simply be too easy to achieve flying 9 ounce airplanes. Time for HLG F3B (by the way that's a fun idea as proven after the CASA Triad HLG contest). I must say that I flew DSL extensively both days this past weekend and I did not incur any of the aches and pain that I used to get after hours of overhand throwing. It was really fun! Be well. See you soon! Thanks. All the best, Steve PasierbCompetition DirectorBALTIMORE AREA SOARING SOCIETYwww.soarmd.org Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. And, we're going to have some fun! - Original Message - From: Tom Broeski To: Steve Pasierb ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] HLG Tasks The biggest thing I see that will give the Discus guys the advantage is that all the flights are limited in duration. There is not one event that takes total time of three longest flights no limit on duration. The discus guys can get their times in many cases just from the launch. Tom Steve Pasierb wrote: FYI, most have found it to guide their practice, but for those who have not... tasks for the East Coast Hand Launch Classic 2001 are located at: http://www.soarmd.org/ECHLC/tasks.html May 5-6 are the dates. Baltimore, MD is the place. All the best, Steve Pasierb Competition Director BALTIMORE AREA SOARING SOCIETY www.soarmd.org Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. -- T&G http://adesigner.com/invention 32 Mount View Dr. Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 Fax 540 943-4178
[RCSE] CO2 Canisters and HLG?
I haven't done HLG, but I'm guessing the point is that you want to be able to sky out nice compact gliders in potentially small open areas with minimal equipment. Seems to me the join-wrecking Olympic sportsmanship stuff is secondary to the main goal. But I'm sure some people really enjoy that physical aspect of competition. Has anyone tried some sort of CO2 cartridge JATO launch assist scheme, where a small standard compressed CO2 gas cartridge is held in place only by its own thrust and falls off near the point of diminishing return? I admit it is wild speculation, and probably wouldn't work because of the weight of the cartridge vs. the energy you could get out of it. But it would be really neat if it did! -Paul RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] HLG Tasks
The biggest thing I see that will give the Discus guys the advantage is that all the flights are limited in duration. There is not one event that takes total time of three longest flights no limit on duration. The discus guys can get their times in many cases just from the launch. Tom Steve Pasierb wrote: FYI, most have found it to guide their practice, but for those who have not... tasks for the East Coast Hand Launch Classic 2001 are located at: http://www.soarmd.org/ECHLC/tasks.html May 5-6 are the dates. Baltimore, MD is the place. All the best, Steve Pasierb Competition Director BALTIMORE AREA SOARING SOCIETY www.soarmd.org Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. -- T&G http://adesigner.com/invention 32 Mount View Dr. Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 Fax 540 943-4178
[RCSE] ESC - problem
I have a problem with a Schulze slim-18be electronic speed controller, in fact with two of these: when I let the motor turn without prop, it turns fine, but with the prop, it stops after about a second, and I can hear the controller beep once, as if it is resetting. I'm using a Permax 6v 400, 7cell NiMH (Sanyo Twicell) with a Multiplex Gearbox 400L (the motor was included with the gearbox. The ESC has as indications: 18/25A, 6-8 celles BEC 5V/1, 5A. My dealer assures me the ESC is ok for this motor with this batteries, but he doesn't understand the problem either. He proposed to send the ESC to the dealer; I agreed and bought another one to be able to continue flying (the first one would be gone for at least 2 weeks), but that other one has the same problem (I'm going back to my dealer tomorrow). When I try with a ESC from Protec (also for 18A), it works fine. Anybody an idea what is going on ? Thanks, Stefan. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Variable Density Generator wanted
Looking for one new or used variable density generator...willing to pay a fair price depending on condition...Ebay had one but it slipped away. -- Phil and Christine Lontz Tucson in the winter Summer in ??? 503 551 7030 Bozo has left the field. or was that in left field. You get the plane you deserve. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Gordy pt. II
Well, I was trying. But when I re-read it, it seemed a little mean-spirited to be funny with that last-email I sent about Gordy. So what I should really say is, sure, I've found Gordy annoying at times, and at times I've disagreed with him strongly. But overall, Gordy has been extremely helpful to me, and I owe to him some of the best improvements to my rigs, both from his private posts and his articles. Further, for as much as I've incurred his wrath and scorn, some of it deservedly, I don't find him to be a grudge-holder nor vindictive, which is a quality I respect a lot. He even told me I could send that (now infamous) servo I had problems with to him and he would try to see that it got diagnosed and remedied. And he wasn't even the one who sold it to me, he just has a sincere desire to make this hobby a better place. The 2000mah NiCad C-cells and efficient arrangment in my Stork: Gordy. The trim and setup instructions for the Stork, from Europe, which I didn't get with the kit, Gordy (and Jim Bacus). And two or three other really *cool* improvements to my equipment, Gordy. It is worth the occassional clashes, by far, to work with Gordy. Gordy is dedicated to the sport. WYSIWYG personality and all. -p RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] FMA eXtreme 5 micro RX ??
I was wondering if anyone has had experience with the FMA eXtreme5 micro rx . I was considering it for handlaunch . They (FMA) say it's a "full range" rx , but is it really safe for yer basic specked-out glider use ? I would be running it with a JR (pos shift) . What other rx's fit the bill - or would be prefered ? Are there any bullit proof 2 or 3 channel rx's worth considering for a poly ship ? Thanks for the bandwidth , Wayne RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] HLG Tasks
FYI, most have found it to guide their practice, but for those who have not... tasks for the East Coast Hand Launch Classic 2001 are located at:http://www.soarmd.org/ECHLC/tasks.html May 5-6 are the dates. Baltimore, MD is the place.All the best, Steve PasierbCompetition DirectorBALTIMORE AREA SOARING SOCIETYwww.soarmd.org Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed.
[RCSE] Re: HARLEY'S HOOKER'S PROPOSAL
This hooker setup looks good and I would definitely be interested, but wouldn't it be better if they were held in a little tension? --- Jack Dubich www.ts3.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] For Sale-JR 8103 TX
For Sale- JR 8103 transmitter with module on CH48. Non digital trim Sailplane version with"kickstand" on handle to stand it up. New TNR Sanyo 1100 Mah AAU battery good for over 5-1/2 hrs on time. Flawless condition. Includes instruction book. $275 plus shipping Jeff Burg Aurora, Colorado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
