[RCSE] Re: [F3F] RE: And the winner is...

2001-07-07 Thread jaffee

We're they really used without permission?  I recognized them as coming
from Shreddair, but I assumed that Deiter had something to do with NSP
selling the Brisk.

Brett

At 03:10 PM 7/7/01 -0700, Robert Bingham wrote:
I'm shocked someone would EVER steal your pictures. That NEVER
happens in this sport. Of all the photos I've taken for GliderKing.com, I've
never seen them appear on f3x.com, sloperacing.com, doug turners home page,
or
countless other places with NO CREDITS of any sort. We're all
upstanding netizens, we do as we are taught to do... fly airplanes.

Bob Bingham
http://www.gliderking.comDieter


 

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[RCSE] Flames, etc.

2001-07-07 Thread RICHSHILL

OK, I'll step in iter - give an opinion that is.

The text in the NSP ad sounds very like NSP's copy.  I read some other copy 
and it has a similar cadence and vocabulary.

Pictures are the same.  Who took them?  Is it possible that's a photo pack 
from the manufacturer?

Enquiring minds want to know!!!

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Re: [RCSE] Summa Classic Tailboom

2001-07-07 Thread PresSvss
No, not really necessary. Keep it stock and you'll be happy with it. 


Re: [RCSE] A Case of reading and understanding.

2001-07-07 Thread Rick Brown and Jill Wiest

I, and I think Gordy, was referring to the 60's meaning and not the
plane. I have a Red Herring and really like it. Especially as a small
close in slope plane. It turns on a dime.

...

Dick Barker wrote:
 
 .
 As for 'Red Herrings' I've seen Gordy after a weekend of contesting. He
 looked pretty 'Red' to me and as far as the 'Herring' part, he didn't
 smell too good either.
 ..
 
 I think red Herring is (r) to tgworks.com and has nothing to do
 with the 1960s catch phrase.
 --
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 Seattle, WA
 - Turning HLG Around -
 
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Re: [RCSE] Not ordered, no instructions..

2001-07-07 Thread PresSvss
Gosh, I hate to use other's words from rcse, but the facts remains the same, 
you can copy but customer service and integrity are original elements to some 
vendors an a vague after thought to others.



From RCSE
I just received the Jok'Air kit I ordered from NE Sailplane. It's a rather
interesting trainer and one that can easily be traveled with. Just one
problem is the instructions are in French. Now, that's not a problem if you
speak and understand French but being a rather ordinary sort of guy I never
learned French.

I was surprised that no one thought it might be a good idea to have English
instructions if you are selling in the US market but what do I know. NESP
did say they hope to get the English instructions on their web site someday
but no one seemed to know when that would be.



Re: [RCSE] Flames, etc.

2001-07-07 Thread jaffee

They were taken my Marcela Leal, who I believe is the girlfriend of Deiter
(from Shredair).

At 09:05 PM 7/7/01 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, I'll step in iter - give an opinion that is.

The text in the NSP ad sounds very like NSP's copy.  I read some other copy 
and it has a similar cadence and vocabulary.

Pictures are the same.  Who took them?  Is it possible that's a photo pack 
from the manufacturer?

Enquiring minds want to know!!!

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Re: [RCSE] C/F Boom Molding Question

2001-07-07 Thread David A. Enete

I am molding a 40 x 1od long tube, I am not sure if a condom will stretch
that much, I know I push them to the limits...  8-) Kidding

My wife is a health educator who worked through college as a 
sexuality educator, and I can tell you personally that most modern 
condoms (latex) will easily stretch to 40x1.  And, you can also put 
one over a collegiate-size football.

- David
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Re: [RCSE] Flamers, a new SAL twist...

2001-07-07 Thread Tuffpuppy

Dearest Sal,

What in the HELL were you thinking? 

You even have this copyright info at the bottom of the web page with all the 
photos that you ripped off of ShredAirs site

© copyright 2001 Northeast Sailplane Products
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(802) 655-7700 

Pretty sad Sal! Total bullshit dude! You lost any respect I had left for you.

Why don't you step up to the plate and do the right thing starting with an 
apology to Dieter and Marcela.


Dave Reese

In a message dated 7/7/01 3:39:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 As many of you know, Flame Wars break out on a regular basis here on
RCSE.  If you've been on the exchange for any length of time, you are
probably quite familiar with the supplier from the East coast who is
the most often flamed.   It is almost uncanny how often it happens,
and the frequency somewhat bolsters the credibility of said flames.
Almost as amazing are the number of supporters of that supplier who
quickly post to defend the supplier of the seemingly justified
flames.  It would be very interesting, indeed, to have those very
supporters step forth at this time and defend the actions of that
supplier again, in light of the below comparison of web sites and
copying of same.  Having been a longtime friend and customer of Dieter
Mahlein, Marcela Leal, and ShredAir, I can personally attest that
their honesty and integrity is beyond reproach.  If the ~other~
supplier would like to copy anything from ShredAir, I suggest that
they copy a little of that honesty and integrity before they copy
anything from ShredAir's website.
Scott Hewett


If you didn't catch the earlier post I'm refering to, here it is:


Dieter wrote:
Compare http://www.nesail.com/brisk2.htm with
http://shredair.com/brisk.html
and
http://www.nesail.com/brisk/brisk2.html with
http://shredair.com/brisk2.html

Dieter
http://shredair.com
 

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Re: [RCSE] JR R700 rx

2001-07-07 Thread tony estep

JR does have one double-conversion rx, the R940 D/C (stands for double
conversion -- costs 200 bux). The rest of them have some AGC circuitry
and extra filtering which make the rx perform well in every respect
except image rejection. Image rejection doesn't matter on 72 mhz
because there's nothing transmitting on the image frequency, except for
ch 11 (I think it's 11), so they don't supply their single-conversion
rxs with that crystal; but on 6 meters you never know what might be on
the image frequency, so you gotta go with double conversion.

--- Tom Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Horizon catalog doesn't have many details on the 700, but I
 believe JR
 stuff is single-conversion with their proprietary filtering system,
 which
 supposedly yields dual-conversion like performance.  This has not,
 however,
 been my experience (at least on the channels I fly).  Your mileage
 may vary.
 
 Tom
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Len Revelle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: tony estep [EMAIL PROTECTED]; James V. Bacus
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 11:19 AM
 Subject: RE: [RCSE] JR R700 rx
 
 
  Their ads says the 700 is to replace the 600. Though I've not been
 able to
  find specs on the 700 would it not be safe to assume at least
 double
  conversion?
 
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[RCSE] Flames and photos

2001-07-07 Thread James C Deck

Come on!  Surely there are more important topics for this forum than
comparisons of presentations on vendor's web sites.  It's hard to believe
that a serious post like Joe Wurts' documentation of his effort to produce a
competitive F3B design drew less comment than the I think somebody's
copying commercials issue.  Let's get back to more substantial issues like
the resurgence of cruciform tails, the appearance of some really fine
built-up RES kits, and the currently popular should F3J towers be allowed
to eat steak?
Jim Deck

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[RCSE] need carbon wing-rod

2001-07-07 Thread D Hauch/ D Unruh

Anyone know where I can purchase a 5/16 dia. carbon
wing rods?
Thanks,
Dave Hauch

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Re: [RCSE] Flamers, a new twist...

2001-07-07 Thread Sal DeFrancesco

You are absolutely correct! There are pictures that are the same as on Deiters 
website. Unfortunately when I took over the exclusive
distribution of the Brisk 2 I asked for pictures and was given via e-mail copies of a 
pics and setup. My website guy just did the
page for me. Please tell me what is Deiters and I will be glad to take these off the 
site. My apologies.

Since we are the exclusive worldwide distributor of all the Brisk products, I also ask 
Deiter to remove these form his website. Does
Deiter mention this to his customers when they call up for the Brisk?

Scott Hewett wrote:

 As many of you know, Flame Wars break out on a regular basis here on
 RCSE.  If you've been on the exchange for any length of time, you are
 probably quite familiar with the supplier from the East coast who is
 the most often flamed.   It is almost uncanny how often it happens,
 and the frequency somewhat bolsters the credibility of said flames.
 Almost as amazing are the number of supporters of that supplier who
 quickly post to defend the supplier of the seemingly justified
 flames.  It would be very interesting, indeed, to have those very
 supporters step forth at this time and defend the actions of that
 supplier again, in light of the below comparison of web sites and
 copying of same.  Having been a longtime friend and customer of Dieter
 Mahlein, Marcela Leal, and ShredAir, I can personally attest that
 their honesty and integrity is beyond reproach.  If the ~other~
 supplier would like to copy anything from ShredAir, I suggest that
 they copy a little of that honesty and integrity before they copy
 anything from ShredAir's website.
 Scott Hewett

 If you didn't catch the earlier post I'm refering to, here it is:

 Dieter wrote:
 Compare http://www.nesail.com/brisk2.htm with
 http://shredair.com/brisk.html
 and
 http://www.nesail.com/brisk/brisk2.html with
 http://shredair.com/brisk2.html

 Dieter
 http://shredair.com

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948 Hercules Dr. Suite 12
Colchester, Vt. 05446
802-655-7700

Website: http://www.nesail.com


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Re: [RCSE] Flames and photos

2001-07-07 Thread James V. Bacus

At 08:57 PM 7/7/2001, James C Deck wrote:
It's hard to believe
that a serious post like Joe Wurts' documentation of his effort to produce a
competitive F3B design drew less comment than the I think somebody's
copying commercials issue.

I asked Joe a few questions privately which he took the time to 
answer.  The Icon is really an impressive design.

I wondered if many missed that post from Joe, I didn't.


Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of Chicago SOAR club
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[RCSE] Clarification

2001-07-07 Thread Dieter @ ShredAir


We're they really used without permission?  I recognized them as coming
from Shreddair, but I assumed that Deiter had something to do with NSP
selling the Brisk.

Brett

For the record:
Marcela Leal (who took the pictures), myself,  and ShredAir are in no 
way associated with Northeast Sailplane Products (NSP), mainly 
because we obviously will never attain NSP's level of ethics, 
professionalism, and expertise.

Dieter Mahlein
http://shredair.com

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[RCSE] making plugs

2001-07-07 Thread Mike

K, so here's the deal.  just a couple of weeks ago i got a wood lathe, 
and thought to myself, the best way to try it out would be to make my 
first 60 sloper plug, to experiment and try making my own fuses.  i had 
to think of a way to make sure the thing was level so i made a little 
jig,  it was a square piece of plastic to which i glued a protractor 
upside down, and hung a string from the mid point.  then i glued on a 
weight.  I laminated two (different colored, white/greenish) ! x 2 x 
3' blocks together.  i don't know how well this drawing will turn out 
but here goes.

bare with me.
__A___
|+  +|
|P   *  P|
||   |
| R  S R |
|  O TO  |
|   TR   T   |
|R   I  R|
|  A NA  |
| C  G  C|
| TOR|ROT|
||   |
|   NUT  |
|B___|

AB parallel

i put the block in, checked to make sure that on one side it was exactly 
90 deg to the floor, then lathed it.  when done, i went to the same side 
and put a .25 x .25 x 8.  i 'shimmied' it until my little gauge read 
the right degree.  then filleted it, etc.

my question is...

  does anybody have a better, more precise way of setting your attack 
angle on a round piece of wood?

Thanks

MIKE

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