Re: [RCSE] 8103 reverse differential
Les, I tried the Tom Hoopes method (article referenced on Charles River RC website) and was not satisfied with it. The whole point of reverse differential is to allow larger amounts of crow (ailerons acting as spoilerons when flaps are down). While Hoopes' method did increase the reverse differential, it also seemed to effectively cancel the crow on my ailerons. What is the point in that case? I came up with: Mix #2 AILE-FPRN SW: BTFY 1 Multi-point / \ curve like/ \ this: / \ / \ / \ L 1 2 3 H The mix value at L and H is some negative number like -75. At the mid-point (2), it is zero. The intermediate points (1 3) are inhibited. What this does is mix in negative flaperons at the left and right extremes of aileron travel, i.e. reverse differential. The exact values in the mix curve depend on how much aileron crow you have set up in the Butterfly menu. Works for me. Les Grammer wrote: I seem to recall that there was a discussion about programming the JR8103 for aileron reverse differential in landing (read 'crow') mode. Anyone have a write-up on it? My new 2-meter sure could make use of this. -Les -- James .-_--. James R. Osborn * [EMAIL PROTECTED]| \/ \ | Up and Running LLC * http://www.upandrunningit.com |-. \ _ /\\_/ | Computer and Information Technology Support | '-.\ / \\/| (510) 377-4514 Office * (510) 232-2575 Fax| ' \_/ | `' RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] IHLGF 2002 at Poway
Hi Gang, For those of you who are going to Poway this year, can you email me off line? I am putting together another HLG CD, with more of the technical type stuff that I did last year and wouldlike your imput. This year I hope to add some video clips of launches, and flying, etc, as well. For those interested in the CD when it is done, email me also, and I'll send you out a note when it is complete. I hope to add alot more building stuff to it for those of us who want to try our hands at designing as well as building. I, persoanlly have one new ship that is a Photon Hybrid whihc I have been getting more stick time on thatn all my TD ships I had last year. I have a new fuse, with a much longer nose moment, on the board right now whihc I hope to have flying by this weekend. Thanks in advance. Thermals, Chris Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] or just [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] shipping
And he is so I rest my case. Randy So by your reasoning Sal is the worst sailplane provider because he is the largest? Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] My first Computer TX
I'm preparing to purchase my first computer TX. I know this is a passionate subject for some, so where better to go to ask for comments? I'm building a Sapphire. Of course I'm on a budget, so the sky is not the limit. I've been flying a Wanderer (slow floater) for 6 months, however it is no more. A heavy foot on the winch on the last flight of the the recent NASF spring contest did it in. Just as well, as I it was going to be replaced anyway. The old Wander served it's purpose well. giving me an introduction to TD, but it lacked the complexity that I've been desiring. Now you may laugh at this, but my current plan is to fly the Sapphire without a computer radio. I've been warned that this could be disastrous on final approach, when I kick the flaps. So I'm cautious, yet I still think I could fly it. Of course with the computer, I could have the features like Crow, differential, and takeoff settings. So I'm bending. That's where I'm at. On a budget yet wanting a computer radio. An oxymoron for sure, what do you recommend? I'd be happy to take comments off-line, and should you have a Tx that you want to sell, I'd like to hear about it. Dave Cousins __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] What is not a Skeg; DEFINED
So, Gordy's shins are skegs? - Original Message - From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE Soaring (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:43 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] What is not a Skeg; DEFINED Ack, another rules thread! Geez. The decision is simply Does the device in question arrest the plane after it contacts the ground? If yes, it's a skeg. If no, it ain't. What's to discuss? What am I missing? Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] CSS Memorial; 2 Contest Ships
This area f the 'book' seems to get a lot of controversy. The book, 2000-2001 version, allows each contestant to have two models. One is the primary and one backup. The primary model must be flown until the CD agrees it is not flyable. Then model #2 may be used. Many contestants may delcare the same model as backup. BUT, once any one uses it, it becomes their model, and no one else can use it. Only one contestant may fly any one model. Using a part of one model, such as swapping a wing, constitutes a model change. Once the backup model is used, you can not go back to the primary. None of this seems overly complex, but it is unpopular. And, I feel it is abused by many. I know I have been at contests where several people flew the same model. A club may request waiver from AMA and modify just about any rule in the book, except (I assume) basic Safety issues, but this must be done in writing, and can be listed in the advertisements for the contest. I don't know if the new rule book makes any changes to this as mine hasn't arrived as yet. .bc([EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.widomaker.com/~conk Williamsburg, VA 23185 On Tue, 14 May 2002, James V. Bacus wrote: At 07:54 AM 5/14/2002, you wrote: Read the AMA Rule Book. It's very clear. I've read the rules many times, I fly about 20 TD contests a season, so why don't you try to answer my questions and see how the group feels about the answers? Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] CSS Memorial; 2 Contest Ships
I take it that the 'WHinning Rule' is in effect. .bc([EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.widomaker.com/~conk Williamsburg, VA 23185 On Tue, 14 May 2002, Barry Andersen wrote: Gz, well as CD of this event, I need to weigh in here. First, I did list this as a variation in the sanction application. There were earlier posts about two models in use at this contest. We beat this to death and back via the Rule 5 modification thread. The question was raised about two CD's and any variation. I pulled Sunday's CD Steve Siebenaler in on this after I had stated the two ship rule. My understanding is that he favors just one ship, but will put up with my shenanigans. He is a fine fellow and fine pilot. Jim Bacus makes some good points. One that was left out, was the simple ability of a pilot to go to a back-up ship which may be a beater when the wind comes up, weather gets bad etc. This is not something to benefit affluent pilots, but to help guys keep their good planes in one piece. Perhaps to help someone who has a nice ship, keep it that way in bad conditions. I CD'd a contest at Cincinnati where a bunch of guys lost nice planes due to very high winds aloft. 4 of 5 pilots in the top seeded bunch in the last round didn't make it back to the field. From my point of view, a good time to pull out a heavy beater and cross your fingers. Of course, this rule variation does allow a pilot to pull out a floater for the morning and something else in the afternoon. Unless you run a one design contest, there will always be considerable variations and advantages in ships. Traditional rule book events still pit the $1400 Icon against a Paragon. Most everyone shows up with a couple of ships, let them choose which one to play with. The guys that can fly, judge air, and land, will always do the best, no matter what set of rules you impose on them and often without regard to what they're flying. News flash! This is for fun, there is no big purse! Stumper's right you guys take this way too seriously. Enough; hope to see you guys in Cincy to fly and have fun with a bunch of good pilots. Peace and good thermals Barry Andersen ps remember those boots for the soggy field. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] DARTS CONTEST CANCELLATION - Sunday May 19
Due to the overlap with Cinci's contest, the DARTS members voted to cancel Sunday's contest. Hope this doesn't cause any headaches, and please pass this along. Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: Air surfer specs out
Was playing with the Air Surfer walk-behind glider last evening as the winds were dying, could not steer it worth a darn, but gave a shoulder-high toss in front of me, it promptly turned a 6-foot circle around me, and kept turning as it rose past my head on the second turn... what the heck!?!?! then it was out of jumping reach on the next... then, still turning, I started to understand it had hooked a thermal, and was going bye-bye... it was worth it! Back to Walgreens, gotta get some more... will put my name on one next time!;-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] priming white foam before fiberglassing?
hi! i remember that i read sometime from somewhere that it's a good idea to prime the white foam wing core before fiberglassing it. if i remember correctly it was white glue or aliphatic resin (perhaps thinned with water) that was recommended. anybody can comment is it useful or necessary? arne RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] epoxy and thick CA
Hi, I am building a BOT from Dynaflite kit and the instructions advice to use epoxy to glue all the thick balsa shearwebs, I was wondering if it could be better to use medium CA because such way all the balsa will be hardenned, or could it be better to apply the epoxy as adviced and later soak the shearwebs with thin CA? thanks Oscar Taboada RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Abilene was fun, but Austin is Awesome
At 10:07 PM 5/15/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seemed like hundreds of Vultures flying today, real bold too. I had one virtually sit on my wing tip for about 10mins at one spot. Did you have to clean off the wing after you landed? 8-) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Great Service Should Be Applauded!
To: Sal DeFrancesco, Pres of Northeast Sailplane Products, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Robert (Bob) P. Andris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brisk 2 Order Cc: Bcc: X-Attachments: Sal, The Brisk 2, F3F ship, that I ordered from you on Friday, arrived this afternoon, Wednesday, in great shape. It is a beauty extremely well made, just like you said. As usual, it is a pleasure doing business with you! Many Thanks, Bob --- Robert P. Andris 12155 Terrence Ave. Saratoga, CA 95070 USA (408) 252-5469 [EMAIL PROTECTED] LSF 004, AMA 5055 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] compulsion flying today
Finally got out to fly my new 7035 Compulsion for 3-4 hrs today. Its a real good flying plane. Also flew the 7037 Mantis. I only had my LBwinch, a good little winch but not a full bore launching tool. When launching the Compulsion in a little wind, after it rotated, I would continually have to feed in blips of down as it pulled so hard it would stall the winch VERY quickly/frequently, my Mantis doesnt pull this hard. Cant wait to get a launch on a full bore winch! The Mantis indicates lift very well, the Compulsion is even better at this, and this is with first flights/ conservative CG setting. I had some concerns about how the 7035 airfoil on the Compulsion would slow for landing. Well let me tell you, if it slowed any more I would be hovering, this in a 7-8 mph wind. There is no doubt, after a little time on this plane it will be my # 1 Td ship. The only draw back for me is I am used to flying the Mantis with a pylon mounted wing, no need to worry about flaps on landing. Have to be sure and pull up flaps right before the plane touches down- or get a skeg I guess. Walter --- GG Is your boss reading your email? Probably Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] DAW's Ka6 EPP 3 meter
Would anyone care to most their feedback, building and flying experiences with DAW's Ka6 EPP 3 meter glider? I'm interested in getting one, but I'd like to see what kinds of opinions have been formed about this ship. Joedy Drulia Shenandoah Valley, VA _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Time for a debate :- (simple contest, I'm bored)
Hey, if you get any plans, post 'em! I want to see what people come up with! -J On Wed, 15 May 2002, Ryan Flowers wrote: OK I'm here at work for a 14 hour day, mind wandering back to slope soaring every so often, wondering when I'll get out next, as I have to work 60 hours this week. So, I thought I'd raise a question that we can all debate, to stir things up a bit. Please reply to list only. I'd like to present a design challenge. Minimal composites (no bagging, etc). Fiberglass, CF tape OK. Minimum 48 span, max 90. variable wing loading, from 7oz to 15oz ft/sq using ballast Radio to be used is Hitec Focus 3 with 2-4 servos. Any planform OK. dihedral/polyhedral OK. Any airfoil is OK. The idea would be to make a plane that was well suited to flying light slope lift, but strong enough (and can be ballasted) to fly in the heaviest conditions. being able to slow down and thermal would be a benefit but not required. Idiot proof (in construction and durability) is important, but not as important as being more versatile than the average glider. The speding limit on materials would be $100, not including radio. I'm no judge but the design ideas I like best will win someone a free website on my server :) If you want a domain name for your website you can buy it and I'll host it for free, otherwise it'll be a domain name like yourname.myname.com. Any takers? ___ Ryan Flowers RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Steps to the Discus Launch
Fellow DLG Hobbyists, I have gotten some requests about how I launch. I am a regional pilot that has had some regional contest success, but I am mostly a sport flyer that likes to fly. For my fellow hobbyists that are learning the launch of DLG's, I made a small webpage about MY main steps to the launch. I hope it helps those that are open to suggestions from fellow pilots. Check it out at http://home.houston.rr.com/kovacs/ then go to Hand Launch Gliders link then click on the link about launching under Articles/Information. = Mike Kovacs http://home.houston.rr.com/kovacs/ links to F3K World Challenge Hand-Launch Gliders Houston Hawks RC Soaring Club Janco Models __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Breck Baldwin's asymmetrical ship?
I was just wandering around the archives and came across this. How's it working? Are there pics? It looks like the homepage is a casualty of the @home debacle, but I really want to see this. -J RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Wing hold down- bolt or band?
Hi Tom, that is exactly what I have been doing for ages. Works great. Chris Adams - Original Message - From: tom43004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Wing hold down- bolt or band? Ryan, By all means, go to a Lowes, Home Depot, or Sears Hardware and buy a tap and drill set for less than $5. The popular sizes for wing attachment are 1/4x20 and #8x32. Drill the hole in hardwood, tap it with the tap, soak it with CA, and run the tap through again. I guarantee that you'll use these taps a thousand times before you're done modelling. I can't remember the last time I built an airplane and DIDN'T use one. Gluing nuts and blind nuts will make you... uh... crazy! Tom Siler Columbus, OH P.S. They sell a set (Craftsman) for $19.99 that has six sized from #4x40 through 1/4x20 of both drills and taps and comes with a case and tap handle. It has every size you'll ever need for model aircraft and hobby work. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Wing hold down- bolt or band?
A side note here, Make absolutely sure that the CA is 100% dry before you run that tap in for the second time! Don't kick it because that will defeat the purpose as you want the CA to soak in as much as possible. The voice of experience, Mark J. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tom43004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Wing hold down- bolt or band? Hi Tom, that is exactly what I have been doing for ages. Works great. Chris Adams - Original Message - From: tom43004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Wing hold down- bolt or band? Ryan, By all means, go to a Lowes, Home Depot, or Sears Hardware and buy a tap and drill set for less than $5. The popular sizes for wing attachment are 1/4x20 and #8x32. Drill the hole in hardwood, tap it with the tap, soak it with CA, and run the tap through again. I guarantee that you'll use these taps a thousand times before you're done modelling. I can't remember the last time I built an airplane and DIDN'T use one. Gluing nuts and blind nuts will make you... uh... crazy! Tom Siler Columbus, OH P.S. They sell a set (Craftsman) for $19.99 that has six sized from #4x40 through 1/4x20 of both drills and taps and comes with a case and tap handle. It has every size you'll ever need for model aircraft and hobby work. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] DAW's Ka6 EPP 3 meter
Joedy writes: Would anyone care to most their feedback, building and flying experiences with DAW's Ka6 EPP 3 meter glider? A lot of fun on the slope, flys suprising well in suprisingly little lift. Must be flown like most large scale planes, smoothly and with care to maintain airspeed and energy. A well-flown one in decent lift can put on quite a show of graceful linked aerobatics, much the same as a glass model would. Care must be exercised on winch launch, as the wings and airframe are somewhat flexible compared to glass. Flutter or other odd behavior can occur. Same with prolonged, steep dives. It aerotows well, and thermals well, when well flown. Building one is straightforward, but having prior EPP experience would be a very big help. It is more work then you would expect, not hard, just a lot of sanding and shaping to do one right. An enormous plus is it's durability. It can only be compared to other EPP planes, and is able to survive in the foamy wing cluttered environment found on many slopes nowadays. JR. John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca "Where guns are outlawed, terrorists only need boxcutters" www.MartialArtsAcademy.org Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience
[RCSE] Off to MWSC
Hi All, I am off bright and early in the AM heading to Wilson Reservoir KS for the MWSC. For all the guys that got there today they were treated to strong SSE winds blowing right up the hill. Damn I hate working. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] A soliciation for your opinion, oh, Thermalites and Slopists!
I'm an uh... let's say advanced beginner pilot who loves to build. I'm looking to rustle up a nice plane that I can learn more from than I now know. I'm comfortable with poly ships, but I recently got a taste of ailerons and boy, howdy, they taste good. Ideally, what I'd like is a kit with a composite fuse and bagged wings. Everything else I can do myself, and I like to do it. I'd like a ship that can handle thermals and our seafront slop lift (not a typo) well. You see, it doesn't really get hot here, so the thermals aren't great, and the winds are always coming from the wrong direction; i.e. I want a ship of light weight but with an option for some lead if the need arises. My suspicion is that my ideal plane doesn't exist; the planes I'd like to build only come RTF, and the kits around don't have the sleek, bagged goodness I'm after. So: Your Opinions Please (I know you've got 'em): Northeast Sailplanes' Obsession C: Pro: Relatively inexpensive for a plane like this, beautiful. Con: Almost all built. Northeast Sailplanes' Lucia: Pro: beautiful, sleek. Con: fully built with just a little assembly and radio installation left to the pilot, dammit. Northeast Sailplanes' Mini Floh Aileron Pro: Tiny, beautiful, except for those bright Czech colors. Con: Already frickin' built, a wacky color scheme, and a built-up wing. I'm actually thinking about buying a Floh and just building a new wing. Bludartar.com's Texas Twister Pro: technically tight. Con: That's a lot of money. It's also attractive in a Willys Overland kind of way. I'm not sure if that should be a pro. Hobby Lobby's Candy Pro: small, attractive. Con: No ailerons. And are they color blind over there in the Czech Republic? So this is the *kind* of thing I'm looking for. But I am just an egg, and would appreciate any words of wisdom and experience, or, failing those, opinions based on reassertion, hyperbole, and hearsay will have to do. -J RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
