[RCSE] Source for wire harness mtls
I'm a bit frustrated with the cost of wiring components via the local dealer. I can appreciate the cost involved in a slow moving inventory...but $6 for a 6 inch servo extension... I'd like to make my own wiring harnesses. Is there a good source for bulk connectors and the proper wire? Also, does it require a special crimper or can they be effectively soldered? Thanks Martin btw-I do try to patronize local people for obvious reasons. As self indulgent as this hobby is, I need to make best efforts to control the costs RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] HiTec/ Futaba
HiTec makes PCM? I've only seen PPM aka FM from HiTec. Your Futaba will run the HiTec FM receivers. PCM receivers require you to use RX's from the same mfg. as the TX because all the PCM techniques are unique. Kerry I have a Hi Tec PCM receiver and an 8U tranny. Shouldn't it work with my 8u assuming I have the tranny set to PCM Regards,Perry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Source for wire harness mtls
Try Dymond out of Oshkosh. He has pigtails, raw connectors and extensions. The extensions seem to be the better deal, cut 'em in half = 2 pigtails. Much easier to solder the wire sections than to diddle around with the connector pins. They are on the net at http://rc-dymond.com/ Be careful with the solder. If this is for a sailplane or electric it won't matter much, but too much solder will cause solder to flow in the strands past the connector. This will make it brittle and much more likely to fatigue at that point. Absolutely a disaster in waiting for a power plane. I know what you mean about controlling costs, but it seems to work in a negative fashion, sorta like Sam's. Yeah it's x% cheaper but you have to buy 20x to get the price. I like having a stash ready and waiting, so bulk isn't a problem. Good luck, Lee - Original Message - From: Martin Cleary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 6:01 PM Subject: [RCSE] Source for wire harness mtls I'm a bit frustrated with the cost of wiring components via the local dealer. I can appreciate the cost involved in a slow moving inventory...but $6 for a 6 inch servo extension... I'd like to make my own wiring harnesses. Is there a good source for bulk connectors and the proper wire? Also, does it require a special crimper or can they be effectively soldered? Thanks Martin btw-I do try to patronize local people for obvious reasons. As self indulgent as this hobby is, I need to make best efforts to control the costs RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Source for wire harness mtls
Martin, check out: http://www.ncws.com/rcrock/connector.htm It should help, Kevin At 04:01 PM 12/8/2002 -0800, Martin Cleary wrote: I'm a bit frustrated with the cost of wiring components via the local dealer. I can appreciate the cost involved in a slow moving inventory...but $6 for a 6 inch servo extension... I'd like to make my own wiring harnesses. Is there a good source for bulk connectors and the proper wire? Also, does it require a special crimper or can they be effectively soldered? Thanks Martin btw-I do try to patronize local people for obvious reasons. As self indulgent as this hobby is, I need to make best efforts to control the costs RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] JR10X 8-servo
Let me clarify, I have a 10s not X for sale asking $300.00 plus shipping. Thanks--Glenn W.Tri-Cities, WaDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
[RCSE] hotels for SWC-Phoenix
This attached message is being posted on behalf of Byron Blakeslee. This particular Days Inn is right off US Hwy 60 in Mesa at the SE corner of Country Club/Juanita. FYI, four pilots have experienced thievery over the last two straight years at hotels in the Mesa/Chandler/Gilbert area. Without exception, all events took place in the parking lot. PLEASE do not leave ANYTHING of value in your vehicles if you can avoid it, especially in plain sight. One of our F5J pilots had his plane, radio, and all tools/flight supplies taken from his truck overnight in the hotel parking lot this past October. Like most places, the hotels do not provide parking lot security and claim to not be responsible for loss. Now, on to Byron's message...thanks... Garland - Original Message - From: Byron Blakeslee To: Chuck Wehofer Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:00 AM Subject: Motels Hi Chuck: Vern emailed me that you were taking care of listing motels for the Classic. The Denver guys like the Days Inn on 333 W. Juanita Road. I talked to the Marketing Manager there and he said they would reduce their regular $79/night rate to $59/night if they sold 10 rooms to Classic entrants. I was wondering if you could add this Days Inn to the list of recommended motels on the contest web site? Then I'm sure between the Denver guys and a few others, we'll meet the 10 room minimum. Thanks, Byron Blakeslee
[RCSE] GLIDER SPAM
I just got spammed by the guy from FVK models Whats the world coming to? Mark Mech www.aerofoam.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] hotels for SWC-Phoenix
Sounds like it's time for a stakeout...surely with a track record like that, the police could be convinced to watch a vehicle in the parking lot stocked with bait. Tom - Original Message - From: GHANSON To: soaring BBS Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 5:41 PM Subject: [RCSE] hotels for SWC-Phoenix This attached message is being posted on behalf of Byron Blakeslee. This particular Days Inn is right off US Hwy 60 in Mesa at the SE corner of Country Club/Juanita. FYI, four pilots have experienced thievery over the last two straight years at hotels in the Mesa/Chandler/Gilbert area. Without exception, all events took place in the parking lot. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] HiTec/ Futaba
No can do Perry...You can run a Hitec PPM Rx from your tranny but I'm pretty sure that you cannot run the PCM. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 10:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] HiTec/ Futaba I have a Hi Tec PCM receiver and an 8U tranny. Shouldn't it work with my 8u assuming I have the tranny set to PCM Regards,Perry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Torrey Pines Gulls (TPG) Toys for Tots (TFT) Contest Debrief 12-08-02
About a week ago during a discussion on the RCSE regarding a new TD task involving hi-starts, I was asked to debrief the contest. If nothing else, I'm a man of my word so the following applies: The specifications of the hi-start were determined after extensive testing and were finalized with the use of exactly 100 feet of the Hobby Lobby red rubber and 230 feet of 80 pound monofiliment line. Identical fittings and small hi-start chutes were used on each. Each hi-start was given a breakin period of about a dozen launches last weekend. Before the contest this morning, all six were staked at the far end of the TPG Poway field with about 30 feet of separation between hi-starts. This allowed two hi-starts to the left of the road, one on the road and three to the right. Each hi-start had its own assigned landing tape (a standard 25 foot AMA tape in this case). A line was drawn perpendicular across the field about equal to where the winches are normally staged on their pedestals. Stretching the hi-starts to this line netted exactly 20 pounds of tension as measured with a fish scale. Although the specifications we were using would have allowed 25 pounds of tension, we limited max tension to 20 pounds so the pilots flying built up gliders wouldn't be unduly handicapped. However, you weren't allowed to stretch to beyond the established line. This ensured that all six hi-starts would provide exactly 20 pounds of tension and an equal opportunity for launch.As luck would have it, 18 pilots showed up to compete which broke down into a perfect three bu six man heats per round. The rules were a combination of traditional AMA TD and F3J. The pilots meeting took a little longer to complete as the details were explained to everyone's satisfaction. Before the contest, we didn't know whether we'd be able to complete three or four rounds, but it was established that the matrix would be reestablished after each round. All three classes (Master, Expert and Sportsman) were considered the same for the purposes of establishing the matrix. In fact, the participants in each heat were determined by drawing their contest number from a hat. This ensured adequate mixing through the initial rounds. It was also decided that the last round matrix would be established by flying seeded man on man (SMOM). In this case, the worst six cumulative scores flew together, the middle six scores flew together and finally the best six scores flew together. All the rounds were to be in a typical 10 minute window F3J format. We used a PA system and a countdown timer as per the IHLGF. In addition, each hi-start was numbered from one through six. The pilots in each heat were assigned to individual hi-starts by virtue of picking a number out of a hat. This eliminated pilots camping out on their favorite hi-start (favorite not by tension but by positioning on the field). Finally, each chute was also marked from one through six which was critical in determining which chute to retrieve for relaunch attempts. Yes, relaunches were allowed since this was partially an F3J contest. The scoring was one point per second of airborn time during the 10 minute window. If more than one flight was attempted, the last flight within the window counted whether it was the longest or not. Any landing beyond the 10 minute window as counted down to zero on the PA system was penalized 100 points plus loss of landing points. Since the purpose of this contest was to put the soaring back into thermal events, it was decided to detune the importance of landings. For this contest, although we used a standard 25 foot AMA tape, any landing from 50 through 100 points was worth 50 points and any landing from 49 through zero points was worth 25 points. If you weren't on the tape, the landing was a zero. The maximum points available per round was a theoretical 600 (10 mintes times one point per second) plus 50 landing points for a total of 650 points. Of course, 600 flight points weren't available as the time on tow deduced from the window time. This time on tow varied from a low of 5 seconds to a high of 12 seconds with eight seconds being average. After landing, flight points were added to landing points to obtain a total and then all six competitors in each heat were normalized against the highest raw score for the heat. With the specifications of the hi-starts we used, launch heights varied from a minimum of about 120 feet to a maximum of about 180 feet. These heights are estimates as we didn't have a laser range finder. However, they're probably reasonably accurate as the telephone pole at Poway is 38 feet high and launchs varied from 3 to 4 telephone pole heights As expected, the launch height was determined primarily by the conditions when each heat launched. Early in the morning with no lift or wind, the launches seldom got to 150 feet. Later in the day when lift or wind was available, launch heights
RE: [RCSE] Source for wire harness mtls
The connectors and cable sold by Dymond are very well priced. The connectors appear to be the same as those offered by Custom Electronics. I have used connectors from both sources successfully. Fred -Original Message- From: Kevin Sheen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:45 PM To: Martin Cleary; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Source for wire harness mtls Martin, check out: http://www.ncws.com/rcrock/connector.htm It should help, Kevin At 04:01 PM 12/8/2002 -0800, Martin Cleary wrote: I'm a bit frustrated with the cost of wiring components via the local dealer. I can appreciate the cost involved in a slow moving inventory...but $6 for a 6 inch servo extension... I'd like to make my own wiring harnesses. Is there a good source for bulk connectors and the proper wire? Also, does it require a special crimper or can they be effectively soldered? Thanks Martin btw-I do try to patronize local people for obvious reasons. As self indulgent as this hobby is, I need to make best efforts to control the costs RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.