[RCSE] Source for wire harness mtls

2002-12-08 Thread Martin Cleary
I'm a bit frustrated with the cost of wiring components via the local
dealer.  I can appreciate the cost involved in a slow moving inventory...but
$6 for a 6 inch servo extension...
I'd like to make my own wiring harnesses.  Is there a good source for bulk
connectors and the proper wire?  Also, does it require a special crimper or
can they be effectively soldered?  Thanks
Martin
btw-I do try to patronize local people for obvious reasons.  As self
indulgent as this hobby is, I need to make best efforts to control the costs

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RE: [RCSE] HiTec/ Futaba

2002-12-08 Thread KC

HiTec makes PCM?  I've only seen PPM aka FM from HiTec.  Your Futaba will
run the HiTec FM receivers.  PCM receivers require you to use RX's from the
same mfg. as the TX because all the PCM techniques are unique.
Kerry



I have a Hi Tec PCM receiver and an 8U tranny.  Shouldn't it work with my 8u
assuming I have the tranny set to PCM

Regards,Perry

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Re: [RCSE] Source for wire harness mtls

2002-12-08 Thread Lee Estingoy
Try Dymond out of Oshkosh.  He has pigtails, raw connectors and extensions.
The extensions seem to be the better deal, cut 'em in half = 2 pigtails.
Much easier to solder the wire sections than to diddle around with the
connector pins.  They are on the net at http://rc-dymond.com/

Be careful with the solder. If this is for a sailplane or electric it won't
matter much, but too much solder will cause solder to flow in the strands
past the connector.  This will make it brittle and much more likely to
fatigue at that point.  Absolutely a disaster in waiting for a power plane.

I know what you mean about controlling costs, but it seems to work in a
negative fashion, sorta like Sam's.  Yeah it's x% cheaper but you have to
buy 20x to get the price.  I like having a stash ready and waiting, so bulk
isn't a problem.

Good luck,

Lee


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From: Martin Cleary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 6:01 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Source for wire harness mtls


 I'm a bit frustrated with the cost of wiring components via the local
 dealer.  I can appreciate the cost involved in a slow moving
inventory...but
 $6 for a 6 inch servo extension...
 I'd like to make my own wiring harnesses.  Is there a good source for bulk
 connectors and the proper wire?  Also, does it require a special crimper
or
 can they be effectively soldered?  Thanks
 Martin
 btw-I do try to patronize local people for obvious reasons.  As self
 indulgent as this hobby is, I need to make best efforts to control the
costs

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Re: [RCSE] Source for wire harness mtls

2002-12-08 Thread Kevin Sheen
Martin,

check out:

http://www.ncws.com/rcrock/connector.htm

It should help,

Kevin

At 04:01 PM 12/8/2002 -0800, Martin Cleary wrote:
I'm a bit frustrated with the cost of wiring components via the local
dealer.  I can appreciate the cost involved in a slow moving inventory...but
$6 for a 6 inch servo extension...
I'd like to make my own wiring harnesses.  Is there a good source for bulk
connectors and the proper wire?  Also, does it require a special crimper or
can they be effectively soldered?  Thanks
Martin
btw-I do try to patronize local people for obvious reasons.  As self
indulgent as this hobby is, I need to make best efforts to control the costs

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Re: [RCSE] JR10X 8-servo

2002-12-08 Thread GRW
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[RCSE] hotels for SWC-Phoenix

2002-12-08 Thread GHANSON



This attached message is being posted on behalf of 
Byron Blakeslee. This particular Days Inn is right off US Hwy 60 in Mesa 
at the SE corner of Country Club/Juanita.

FYI, four pilots have experienced thievery over the 
last two straight years at hotels in the Mesa/Chandler/Gilbert area. 
Without exception, all events took place in the parking lot. 

PLEASE do not leave ANYTHING of value in your 
vehicles if you can avoid it, especially in plain sight. One of our F5J 
pilots had his plane, radio, and all tools/flight supplies taken from his truck 
overnight in the hotel parking lot this past October.

Like most places, the hotels do not provide parking 
lot security and claim to not be responsible for loss. 

Now, on to Byron's message...thanks...
Garland

- Original Message - 
From: Byron 
Blakeslee 
To: Chuck 
Wehofer 
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:00 AM
Subject: Motels

 Hi Chuck: Vern 
emailed me that you were taking care of listing motels for the Classic. 
The Denver guys like the Days Inn on 333 W. Juanita Road. 
 I talked to the Marketing Manager there and he said they 
would reduce their regular $79/night rate to $59/night if they sold 10 rooms to 
Classic entrants. 
 I was wondering if you could add this Days Inn to the 
list of recommended motels on the contest web site? Then I'm sure between 
the Denver guys and a few others, we'll meet the 10 room minimum.
 Thanks, Byron Blakeslee


[RCSE] GLIDER SPAM

2002-12-08 Thread Aerofoam
I just got spammed by the guy from FVK models
Whats the world coming to?

Mark Mech
www.aerofoam.com
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Re: [RCSE] hotels for SWC-Phoenix

2002-12-08 Thread Tom Watson


Sounds like it's time for a stakeout...surely with a track record like that,
the police could be convinced to watch a vehicle in the parking lot stocked
with bait.

Tom


- Original Message -
From: GHANSON
To: soaring BBS
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 5:41 PM
Subject: [RCSE] hotels for SWC-Phoenix


This attached message is being posted on behalf of Byron Blakeslee.  This
particular Days Inn is right off US Hwy 60 in Mesa at the SE corner of
Country Club/Juanita.

FYI, four pilots have experienced thievery over the last two straight years
at hotels in the Mesa/Chandler/Gilbert area.  Without exception, all events
took place in the parking lot.

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RE: [RCSE] HiTec/ Futaba

2002-12-08 Thread Sheldon
No can do Perry...You can run a Hitec PPM Rx from your tranny but I'm pretty
sure that you cannot run the PCM.

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I have a Hi Tec PCM receiver and an 8U tranny.  Shouldn't it work with my 8u
assuming I have the tranny set to PCM

Regards,Perry
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[RCSE] Torrey Pines Gulls (TPG) Toys for Tots (TFT) Contest Debrief 12-08-02

2002-12-08 Thread FRED SAGE
About a week ago during a discussion on the RCSE regarding  a new TD task
involving hi-starts,  I was asked to debrief the contest.  If nothing else,
I'm a man of my word so the following applies:

The specifications of the hi-start were determined  after extensive testing
and were finalized with the use of exactly 100 feet of the Hobby Lobby red
rubber and 230 feet of 80 pound monofiliment line.  Identical fittings and
small hi-start chutes were used on each.  Each hi-start was given a breakin
period of about a dozen launches last weekend.  Before the contest this
morning,  all six  were staked at the far end of the TPG  Poway field with
about 30 feet of separation between hi-starts.  This allowed two hi-starts
to the left of the road,  one on the road and three to the right.  Each
hi-start had its own assigned landing tape (a standard 25 foot AMA tape in
this case).  A line was drawn perpendicular across the field about equal to
where the winches are normally staged on their pedestals.  Stretching the
hi-starts to this line netted exactly 20 pounds of tension as measured with
a fish scale.  Although the specifications we were using would have allowed
25 pounds of tension,  we limited max tension to 20 pounds so the pilots
flying built up gliders wouldn't be unduly handicapped.  However,  you
weren't allowed to stretch to beyond the established line.  This ensured
that all six hi-starts would provide exactly 20 pounds of tension and an
equal opportunity for launch.As luck would have it,  18 pilots showed up
to compete which broke down into a perfect three bu six man  heats per
round.

 The rules were a combination of traditional AMA TD and F3J.  The pilots
meeting took a little longer to complete as the details were explained to
everyone's satisfaction.  Before the contest,  we didn't know whether we'd
be able to complete three or four rounds,  but it was established that the
matrix would be reestablished after each round.   All three classes (Master,
Expert and Sportsman) were considered the same for the purposes of
establishing the matrix.  In fact,  the participants in each heat were
determined by drawing their contest number from a hat.   This ensured
adequate mixing through the initial rounds.  It was also decided that the
last round matrix would be established by flying seeded man on man (SMOM).
In this case,  the worst six cumulative scores flew together,  the middle
six scores flew together and finally the best six scores flew together.  All
the rounds were to be in a typical 10 minute window F3J format.  We used a
PA system and a countdown timer as per the IHLGF. In addition,  each
hi-start was numbered from one through six.  The pilots in each heat were
assigned to individual hi-starts by virtue of picking a number out of a hat.
This eliminated pilots camping out on their favorite hi-start (favorite not
by tension but by positioning on the field).  Finally,  each chute was also
marked from one through six which was critical in determining which chute to
retrieve for relaunch attempts.  Yes,  relaunches were allowed since this
was partially an F3J contest.  The scoring was one point per second of
airborn time during the 10 minute window.  If more than one flight was
attempted,  the last flight within the window counted whether it was the
longest or not.  Any landing beyond the 10 minute window as counted down to
zero on the PA system was penalized 100 points plus loss of landing points.
Since the purpose of this contest was to put the soaring back into thermal
events,  it was decided to detune the importance of landings.  For this
contest,  although we used a standard 25 foot AMA tape,  any landing from 50
through 100 points was worth 50 points and any landing from 49 through zero
points was worth 25 points.  If you weren't on the tape,  the landing was a
zero.  The maximum points available per round was a theoretical 600 (10
mintes times one point per second) plus 50 landing points for a total of 650
points.  Of course,  600 flight points weren't available as the time on tow
deduced from the window time.  This time on tow varied from a low of 5
seconds to a high of 12 seconds with eight seconds being average.  After
landing,  flight points were added to landing points to obtain a total and
then all six competitors in each heat were normalized against the highest
raw score for the heat.

With the specifications of the hi-starts we used,  launch heights varied
from a minimum of about 120 feet to a maximum of about 180 feet.  These
heights are estimates as we didn't have a laser range finder.  However,
they're probably reasonably accurate as the telephone pole at Poway is 38
feet high and launchs  varied from 3 to 4 telephone pole heights   As
expected,  the launch height was determined primarily by the conditions when
each heat launched.  Early in the morning with no lift  or wind,  the
launches seldom got to 150 feet.  Later in the day when lift or wind was
available,  launch heights 

RE: [RCSE] Source for wire harness mtls

2002-12-08 Thread Fred A. Sheplavy
The connectors and cable sold by Dymond are very well priced.  The
connectors appear to be the same as those offered by Custom Electronics. I
have used connectors from both sources successfully.
Fred

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Sheen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:45 PM
To: Martin Cleary; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Source for wire harness mtls

Martin,

check out:

http://www.ncws.com/rcrock/connector.htm

It should help,

Kevin

At 04:01 PM 12/8/2002 -0800, Martin Cleary wrote:
I'm a bit frustrated with the cost of wiring components via the local
dealer.  I can appreciate the cost involved in a slow moving
inventory...but
$6 for a 6 inch servo extension...
I'd like to make my own wiring harnesses.  Is there a good source for bulk
connectors and the proper wire?  Also, does it require a special crimper or
can they be effectively soldered?  Thanks
Martin
btw-I do try to patronize local people for obvious reasons.  As self
indulgent as this hobby is, I need to make best efforts to control the
costs

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