[RCSE] Flaps or spoilers?
Hello all: I have an old Davey Systems Prophet kit that I want to build and then fly at Bluff Park in Long Beach, Calif. Those of you who fly there know what a small landing area exists there. The Prophet is a 2M, and some kind of additional flight control is required for safe landings. I recently flew a Prophet 941 (100 inches, rudder/elevator only) there, and although it flew wonderfully, I had trouble landing it. Its not easy to land such a large ship there without the aid of flaps or spoilers. For landing at Bluff Park, which is better: flaps or spoilers? I dont want to invest in a computer radio; so I need to use the basic radio I have. Does anyone still make mechanical mixers for flaps? If you recommend spoilers, can you also recommend a slop-free spoiler linkage system? The Prophet also has an extra plan sheet that shows a modification for ailerons and flaps. Should I consider that modification for slope flying? Many thanks! Scott Martin Chandler, Arizona
Re: [RCSE] NATS BBQ
On Monday 27 June 2005 11:58 pm, you wrote: Maybe the donation should be %5.00 and all the wood you can carry? The last bonfire melted glass in seconds and vaporized beer cans before they hit the coals! Sure to be a hoot, as the Cap'n might say. Don't miss this ... It did a number on some carbon, kevlar and fiberrglass and balsa, too, offered to the thermal gods! O the pretty colors! What a trip Jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good
A thanks to all that have entered the 2005 AMA National Soaring Championship. Tom Kallevang posted the final stats on the LSF website, www.silentflight.org , and the numbers are good considering the change in schedule that has been instituted by AMA. The total entries are 408, a bit down from '04 (417), but in the core classes, HL, 2M, UNL, RES, and NOS, they were up one entry, 361 versus 360. Also, with the weekend only having one class to fly, F3J versus F3B and the XC's in '04, we have maintianed well for this summer's NATS. I know I am looking forward to our soaring camp and all the action that will happen and seeing all my friends and new ones to meet the end of July. Thanks to Ed Franz and Turn Around Troll and Matrix Maniac Sheldon for getting the entries handled and matrix's set up. Marc Gellart 2005 Event Director AMA National Soaring Championship Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS BBQ
A nice BBQ indeed. Under the stars listening to the various sounds of the night, crickets, owls, and coyotes. And of course the crackle of the bonfire frying the mosquitoes before they can steal your blood. And for the hardy you can sleep right on-site, just roll out of your sleeping bag in the morning and stagger, (err sleep walk), to the F3J sign up. Just remember to dress. :-) I'll be sure to have some fine micro brews available for my buddies and brew connoisseurs Sieb and Bubba. :-) Steven Meyer Survivor of the NATS BBQ SOAR LSF IV At 06:16 PM 6/27/2005, JDIRRS wrote: Friday the 22nd will be an informal Fajitas and Margaritas, Sat after day one of F3J will be the main event. Both hosted at the campgrounds. Sat will feature ribs and pull pork, japapenos stuffed with shrimp wrapped in bacon,corn on the cob, beans and a bone in rib eye for TK. The BBQ is in its third or fourth year now and is growing in size and participation, As such I am asking for a 5.00 donation.( all you can eat) Any profit (doubtful) will be donated back to the LSF If you would like to help out with an additional dish. paper plates ,ice, charcoal etc. contact me off-line. Looking forward to another Big @$$ Bacus Bond fire and seeing all once again tow Jo
[RCSE] The RCSD web site has moved!
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[RCSE] JR Module
Folks, Since my primary freq was locked out by the time i knew i could go to the NATS, i'm in need of some radio equipment! Was hoping to get amodule on channel 19 for a JR388, so I wouldn't have to program a whole different tx over again. also looking for a channel 19 rx crystal for a Hi-tec rx with JR shift. Any possibility someone's gotsuch thingslying around somewhere? Thanks
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good
Taking the latest published registration information at http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Register.html I have compiled the following. 3 pilots are registered exclusively for HLG - 10.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J - 4.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M - 2.2% 16 pilots are registered exclusively for UNL - 12.8% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES - 4.8% 1 pilot is registered exclusively for NOS - 2.9% 5 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J and UNL - 4.0% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES and NOS - 4.6% 9 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and UNL - 7.1% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and RES - 1.7% 3 pilots are registered in every event - 2.0% One of them is in (Jr or Sr) class! 2 pilots registered in Jr / Sr class 20 pilots are registered for HLG and F3J - 35.7% 20 pilots are registered for HLG and 2M - 20.6% 21 pilots are registered for HLG and UNL - 15.8% 8 pilots are registered for HLG and RES - 7.6% 36 pilots are registered for F3J and 2M - 36.4% 40 pilots are registered for F3J and UNL - 30.3% 20 pilots are registered for F3J and RES - 18.0% 81 pilots are registered for 2M and UNL - 61.4% 55 pilots are registered for 2M and RES - 48.2% 73 pilots are registered for UNL and RES - 53.7% (Accuracy 2% - 9% depending on sample because of missing data.) I have surmised the following. It appears that 2M and F3J pilots are the most versatile. Entering in more events The closer the events are together the better the cross participation. RES needs to replace one day of 2 Meter. :-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good
Good Lord, I wish I had this kind of time... ;-) Dana Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taking the latest published registration information at I have compiled the following.3 pilots are registered exclusively for HLG - 10.3%2 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J - 4.3%2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M - 2.2%16 pilots are registered exclusively for UNL - 12.8%4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES - 4.8%1 pilot is registered exclusively for NOS - 2.9%5 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J and UNL - 4.0%4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES and NOS - 4.6%9 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and UNL - 7.1%2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and RES - 1.7%3 pilots are registered in every event - 2.0% One of them is in (Jr or Sr) class!2 pilots registered in Jr / Sr class20 pilots are registered for HLG and F3J - 35.7%20 pilots are registered for HLG and 2M - 20.6%21 pilots are registered for HLG and UNL - 15.8%8 pilots are registered for HLG and RES - 7.6%36 pilots are registered for F3J and 2M - 36.4%40 pilots are registered for F3J and UNL - 30.3%20 pilots are registered for F3J and RES - 18.0%81 pilots are registered for 2M and UNL - 61.4%55 pilots are registered for 2M and RES - 48.2%73 pilots are registered for UNL and RES - 53.7%(Accuracy 2% - 9% depending on sample because of missing data.)I have surmised the following.It appears that 2M and F3J pilots are the most versatile. Entering in more eventsThe closer the events are together the better the cross participation.RES needs to replace one day of 2 Meter. :-)RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good
Entries look good. Wonder how many 2-meter entries you would have had if it were scheduled after Unlimited. I entered 2-meter every year until 1998. Couldn't see the smaller models well enough after my eye surgery. This is the first year I have not entered Nostalgia and RES since they have been a part of the Nats. Couldn't see paying that much for three flights plus another night in the motel. If I could have had a full day or RES just before or after Unlimited, I would have entered. I am through flying Nostalgia class until we start flying Nostalgia tasks just like we flew before 1908. Chuck Anderson At 02:58 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote: Taking the latest published registration information at http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Register.html I have compiled the following. 3 pilots are registered exclusively for HLG - 10.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J - 4.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M - 2.2% 16 pilots are registered exclusively for UNL - 12.8% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES - 4.8% 1 pilot is registered exclusively for NOS - 2.9% 5 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J and UNL - 4.0% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES and NOS - 4.6% 9 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and UNL - 7.1% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and RES - 1.7% 3 pilots are registered in every event - 2.0% One of them is in (Jr or Sr) class! 2 pilots registered in Jr / Sr class 20 pilots are registered for HLG and F3J - 35.7% 20 pilots are registered for HLG and 2M - 20.6% 21 pilots are registered for HLG and UNL - 15.8% 8 pilots are registered for HLG and RES - 7.6% 36 pilots are registered for F3J and 2M - 36.4% 40 pilots are registered for F3J and UNL - 30.3% 20 pilots are registered for F3J and RES - 18.0% 81 pilots are registered for 2M and UNL - 61.4% 55 pilots are registered for 2M and RES - 48.2% 73 pilots are registered for UNL and RES - 53.7% (Accuracy 2% - 9% depending on sample because of missing data.) I have surmised the following. It appears that 2M and F3J pilots are the most versatile. Entering in more events The closer the events are together the better the cross participation. RES needs to replace one day of 2 Meter. :-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] JR Module
Thanks, Regis. you're right, i don't have the recent module. but, i've been offered a 388 module on 19 by one of the people on the RCSE, on loan for just shipping. The soaring community is the best. Danaregis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The newer JR Tx modules have replaceable crystals. Your 388 probably does not have a newer module. Also, the newer modules all say PCM but are both PCM and FM. So, if you can borrow a recent module you can put any JR Tx crystal in it. Don't take my word for it, call Horizon and ask a JR Tech. :-) If you are convinced and can find no one locally to lend you a recent module, I can help. Regis 301-934-1407--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dana Flemming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Folks, Since my primary freq was locked out by the time i knew i could go to the NATS, i'm in need of some radio equipment! Was hoping to get a module on channel 19 for a JR388, so I wouldn't have to program a whole different tx over again. also looking for a channel 19 rx crystal for a Hi-tec rx with JR shift. Any possibility someone's got such things lying around somewhere? Thanks
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good
Boy Chuck, I know you have a few years under the belt, but I didn't know you were that old! Dan - Original Message - From: Chuck Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am through flying Nostalgia class until we start flying Nostalgia tasks just like we flew before 1908. Chuck Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good
Sometimes I feel that old. Should have been 1980. :-) And I have flown in every soaring Nats since 1974 except when my job interfered. Haven't missed one since I retired in 1994. Chuck Anderson At 04:56 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote: Boy Chuck, I know you have a few years under the belt, but I didn't know you were that old! Dan - Original Message - From: Chuck Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am through flying Nostalgia class until we start flying Nostalgia tasks just like we flew before 1908. Chuck Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good
2M still exists :-( Busy finishing up another 2M for the Nats. I sold my old one at last years Nats hoping that the schedule might not have 2 days of 2M in the middle. Steve Meyer wrote: Taking the latest published registration information at http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Register.html I have compiled the following. 3 pilots are registered exclusively for HLG - 10.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J - 4.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M - 2.2% 16 pilots are registered exclusively for UNL - 12.8% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES - 4.8% 1 pilot is registered exclusively for NOS - 2.9% 5 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J and UNL - 4.0% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES and NOS - 4.6% 9 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and UNL - 7.1% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and RES - 1.7% 3 pilots are registered in every event - 2.0% One of them is in (Jr or Sr) class! 2 pilots registered in Jr / Sr class 20 pilots are registered for HLG and F3J - 35.7% 20 pilots are registered for HLG and 2M - 20.6% 21 pilots are registered for HLG and UNL - 15.8% 8 pilots are registered for HLG and RES - 7.6% 36 pilots are registered for F3J and 2M - 36.4% 40 pilots are registered for F3J and UNL - 30.3% 20 pilots are registered for F3J and RES - 18.0% 81 pilots are registered for 2M and UNL - 61.4% 55 pilots are registered for 2M and RES - 48.2% 73 pilots are registered for UNL and RES - 53.7% (Accuracy 2% - 9% depending on sample because of missing data.) I have surmised the following. It appears that 2M and F3J pilots are the most versatile. Entering in more events The closer the events are together the better the cross participation. RES needs to replace one day of 2 Meter. :-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good
...and I wish I had that kind of analytical capability, and the time thing too, and maybe I should practice landings but no, I'm gonna spend a week and a half in Bavaria drinking beer and visiting castles, monasteries, museums, and breweries. See Y'all at the Nats. I'll be entered in everything except hand launch. No threat to the contenders, but I do have fun. If you don't know me yet come by and say howdy to Bubba. If you fly toy planes we'll probably get along. happy trails - Bubba In a message dated 6/28/2005 6:44:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, Soaring@airage.com writes: Good Lord, I wish I had this kind of time... ;-) Dana Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taking the latest published registration information at I have compiled the following. 3 pilots are registered exclusively for HLG - 10.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J - 4.3% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M - 2.2% 16 pilots are registered exclusively for UNL - 12.8% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES - 4.8% 1 pilot is registered exclusively for NOS - 2.9% 5 pilots are registered exclusively for F3J and UNL - 4.0% 4 pilots are registered exclusively for RES and NOS - 4.6% 9 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and UNL - 7.1% 2 pilots are registered exclusively for 2M and RES - 1.7% 3 pilots are registered in every event - 2.0% One of them is in (Jr or Sr) class! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: Reply: [RCSE] XC Strategies?
Tom, Thanks for the input. I understand the tacking up wind concept, raced on sailboats for years and it makes sense. If your going crosswind, no matter how slight, the DMG ( distance made good ) on course is reduced, forgot about that. Funny how there is a synergy between sailing and soaring, some of my old sailing buddies are also interested in soaring. I too am attracted strongly to them both. Wished I could make it to Muncie for the NATS. I have only participated in one, the 1981 NATS in Seguin, TX. Also, went to one as a child at the Dallas Naval Airstation, I was awestruck!!! However, when registrations had to be in for this year I was not sure my recent surgery would allow me to attend. Hope you can make it for the TNT this year, always enjoy flying with you. Mark Williams Garland, TX President Soaring League of North Texas LSF # 3792 Level III AMA # 5492 - Original Message - From: Tom Kallevang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:28 PM Subject: Reply: [RCSE] XC Strategies? Hi Mark, glad to hear the program is enjoying a resurgence in your area. For the LSF task levels, it's best to have as close to a straight out and back course as you can find. The more turns and jogs the chase vehicle has to follow increases the distance the pilot must fly to make the task. Task measurements should be as the crow flies, but many just use the odometer. A closed course like the old SOAR Great Race was legal for the 10K goal and return because the furthest point from the start/finish was more than 10K away, even though you flew 76 km! Lots of guys get their 2 hour Thermal and the 10K at the same time ... as long as you land back witrhin 200M, the flight counts for both tasks. For XC racing, it isn't as necessary to have straight lines, and our stab at scale aeortow XC at the Nats last year showed us a closed course can work very well. Upwind/downwind vs. crosswind ... depends on the day, the flier, the plane, etc etc etc. Down/up wind might be a little easier ... you can start upwind, catch a bubble and hit the course while climbing ... lift peters out and you head downwind looking for more. Start in the afternoon, with gradually reducing winds, and you get the wind at your back on the way out and a reduced headwind on the way back. Running the course crosswind will require a lot of zig-zagging resulting in a longer course to fly, tacking against the wind like a sailboat. Same deal in a way with heading upwind first ... Find youreself a sod farm at the crossroads of two paved but untraveled roads that are straight for 10K from the intersection in all ways ... you got it any which way. We have also set up winches on the side of the road and taken off from there ... you don't want to be doing a lot of launching this way. Watch out for dogs and shotguns if you trample the crops. Minimize your impact to your surroundings and land as near the road as possible, in other words, be a good neighbor. Hope this helps! Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 2 sailplanes for sale RTF
2 sailplanes for sale RTF Blizzard RES http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=387615 Tempest open class http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=387607 Selling to help fund an Image Icon. Thanks, John Fruge
[RCSE] ballast ? wing/fuse
hi all, you guys where so good on my last question i have another for you guys. some planes take ballast in the fuse and others in the wing. is there any penalties you pay in performance say for a wing that is fully ballast, compared to a fuse full. i'm talking 2lb. to 4lb. of ballast, so the ballast will be 12'' to 16'' on both sides of the wing half. thanks, Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] ballast ? wing/fuse
IMO It's actually better to load the wing if possible. It takes some of the load off of the joiner or center panel whichever type of wing you have. As long as you don't go too far out on the panels it shouldn't take too much away from roll control. It also depends on what type of flying you are going to be doing. I myself like a ballast set up I can change in about 5 seconds. Gavin Botha and my self use to put in 1 lb. on the Y2K at the wing tip joint of the center panel and it actually smoothed the plane out, made it so it didn't fell so flighty. Darrell Z. -Original Message- From: D Hauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:31 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] ballast ? wing/fuse hi all, you guys where so good on my last question i have another for you guys. some planes take ballast in the fuse and others in the wing. is there any penalties you pay in performance say for a wing that is fully ballast, compared to a fuse full. i'm talking 2lb. to 4lb. of ballast, so the ballast will be 12'' to 16'' on both sides of the wing half. thanks, Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] ballast ? wing/fuse
Dave, Roll rate will suffer. Closer to the centerline of the fuse is better! My Viper uses wing ballast and it is like throwing an oil filled damper on the plane when the wing is filled although in a 55mph wind like I last flew it in fully ballasted it may not be a bad thing! Same thing happens with the Opus but to a lesser extent. But if there is no other option, and you need the weight, stuff it in the wing. -- Greg Smith Slope Soaring Resource http://www.slopeflyer.com From: D Hauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:31:25 -0700 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] ballast ? wing/fuse hi all, you guys where so good on my last question i have another for you guys. some planes take ballast in the fuse and others in the wing. is there any penalties you pay in performance say for a wing that is fully ballast, compared to a fuse full. i'm talking 2lb. to 4lb. of ballast, so the ballast will be 12'' to 16'' on both sides of the wing half. thanks, Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] ballast ? wing/fuse
I just don't understand the concept of wing ballast. It would seem to me that it assumes a particular CG, right? If the ballast in the wing isn't right on the CG, doesn't it mean that the cg actually changes depending on how much ballast is put in there? Seems a dubious solution to me. I think only Don Peters got it right when we designed the Icon ballast system. Simple. Ingenious. Practical. I never could understand why the European makers don't adopt the concentric rod system like the Icon. -Jim On Jun 28, 2005, at 11:31 PM, D Hauch wrote: hi all, you guys where so good on my last question i have another for you guys. some planes take ballast in the fuse and others in the wing. is there any penalties you pay in performance say for a wing that is fully ballast, compared to a fuse full. i'm talking 2lb. to 4lb. of ballast, so the ballast will be 12'' to 16'' on both sides of the wing half. thanks, Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Throw Outs, What If...
...you dropped the fliers high score in a contest and not the low score? I looked over MS 2005 scores, Kendall came up short, John loved the result, and both knew the tasks were dangerous when assigned. Hi guys, I am back in Atl tonite and just got into the motel, after having had a few days to let the excitement of taking wood on both Sat and Sunday ;-)..and experiencing the throw out round Which in fact is a make up opportunity, not a throw out. Key word 'opportunity', I get a kick out of the assumption that bettering your worse flight to take wood is an automatic, or a given. I had an accidental interference in the landing zone that really hurt in one of the first rounds, so that opportunity to make up for it was appreciated and I think I made it a perfect flight and landing which matched the rounds prior, so I was happy for the chance. Am I promoting every contest have a make up/throw out? Nope, but it was a fun thing in this case ;-) Heck the whole contest was a fun thing, but the food was exceptional...banquet and lunches! Gordy
