Re: [RCSE] "Roo" sightings

2005-06-30 Thread Jack Strother



Hey 
I saw this big dog asred rabbit yesterday.

At 04:24 PM 6/29/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim

  You may want to be a little careful about this report.  I
know the "cap'n" personally and there have been times when he
"saw" things the rest of us couldn't see:-)))
Denny Maize
Polecat Aero
717-789-0146

www.polecataero.com 

Jack Strother
Granger, IN
LSF V #117
//home.comcast.net/~strotherbj




Re: [RCSE] SoLong UAV

2005-06-30 Thread Bill Johns


On Jun 30, 2005, at 7:43 AM, James V. Bacus wrote:

This UAV looks so much like a sailplane...   thought you guys might  
find this interesting that haven't seen it before.


http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001647.html


Neat.  Click on one of the links (http://www.acpropulsion.com/ 
ACP_PDFs/ACP_SoLong_Solar_UAV_2005-06-05.pdf)  and get a good look at  
the wing cross section.


Hey, the molds are made and paid for (we paid for them right??).  I  
wonder if there is any chance they could offer wing sets to sailplane  
folks.  We don't need the solar cells and all, just a little  
reinforcement for winch launches.


Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,

Bill
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Bill Johns
Colton, WA

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[RCSE] Models for sale

2005-06-30 Thread Ron Russell
For SALE.


Pat Teakle VEGA, usual thing, been flown, film covered wings etc.
Includes Rx, 7 servos, 1100mah battery. 
Prog your Tx and fly. £220.00.

Unbuilt ZAGI, black EPP foam, cores joined. £25.00

CORRADO. fully moulded model with SD7037 wing section. No damage, very
respectable flier. Has had Volz servos fitted but they are NOT included
in the sale. No Rx included, no battery included.  £350.00 

PIKE PLUS crosstail version, fuz has been damaged but has been suitably
repaired, strong and straight. Has been flown since the repairs with no
problems. This model has been fitted with Volz servos but they are NOT
included in the sale. No Rx included, no battery included.  £300.00

GENTLE LADY, unbuilt kit, £30.00

SPECTRE, unbuilt kit, 2m model from the US, glass/carbon pod and boom
fuz, glass bagged wings and tail, complete kit, £150.00 


To discuss any model please contact me by email or by 'phone 01592
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[RCSE] Bob Burston

2005-06-30 Thread SHIRLEY dONEY
Can some one give me Bob Burston E address or snail mail address. 
Thanks

Martin Doney
Baldwin, MI(the middle of nowhere)


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RE: [RCSE] SoLong UAV

2005-06-30 Thread Frank Slaughter
Here's a long thread about the flight, including commentary from some of
the pilots.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378861 

-Original Message-
From: Bill Johns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:26 AM
To: Soaring Yahoo
Subject: Re: [RCSE] SoLong UAV


On Jun 30, 2005, at 7:43 AM, James V. Bacus wrote:

> This UAV looks so much like a sailplane...   thought you guys might  
> find this interesting that haven't seen it before.
>
> http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001647.html

Neat.  Click on one of the links (http://www.acpropulsion.com/
ACP_PDFs/ACP_SoLong_Solar_UAV_2005-06-05.pdf)  and get a good look at
the wing cross section.

Hey, the molds are made and paid for (we paid for them right??).  I
wonder if there is any chance they could offer wing sets to sailplane
folks.  We don't need the solar cells and all, just a little
reinforcement for winch launches.

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,

Bill
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Bill Johns
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Re: [RCSE] EVO 9 Synth FS

2005-06-30 Thread TJB
I have some 6, 8, 9, and 12 ch synth receivers to go with it if anyone is 
interested.


Tom

T&G
32 Mount View Dr
Afton, VA  22920

540 943-3356
fax   943-4178

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Subject: [RCSE] EVO 9 Synth FS



I have a little used Evo 9 Synth for sale. $400.00
plus shipping.

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Re: [RCSE] Flaps or spoilers?

2005-06-30 Thread regis
While I am not familiar with where you will be flying, I may be able
to add some things to consider.  With out a computer radio, I would
suggest you skip flaps and ailerons.My experience is that
spoilers are very effective.   But you will eventually want an
aileron ship for the slope.  I have seen used computer radios (like
JR 347 – wonderful radio) for about $100.   (People are upgrading to
systems like the JR 3010 and Evos.)  Keep your eyes open for a good
deal.  (You might get a few offers.)  Regis

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Scott and Jennifer Martin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all:
>
> I have an old Davey Systems Prophet kit that I want to build and
then
> fly at Bluff Park in Long Beach, Calif.  Those of you who fly there
know
> what a small landing area exists there.  The Prophet is a 2M, and
some
> kind of additional flight control is required for safe landings.  I
> recently flew a Prophet 941 (100 inches, rudder/elevator only)
there,
> and although it flew wonderfully, I had trouble landing it.  It's
not
> easy to land such a large ship there without the aid of flaps or
> spoilers.  For landing at Bluff Park, which is better: flaps or
> spoilers?  I don't want to invest in a computer radio; so I need to
use
> the basic radio I have.  Does anyone still make mechanical mixers
for
> flaps?  If you recommend spoilers, can you also recommend a slop-
free
> spoiler linkage system?  The Prophet also has an extra plan sheet
that
> shows a modification for ailerons and flaps.  Should I consider that
> modification for slope flying?
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Scott Martin
> Chandler, Arizona


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[RCSE] John Berlin please ping me.

2005-06-30 Thread campbelld9
John Berlin please ping me.
David Campbell
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Re: [RCSE] painting monocote

2005-06-30 Thread regis
I have used the old Hobby Poxy over MonoKote quit successfully. Regis



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Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter

2005-06-30 Thread rdwoebke
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Lachowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Friends don't let friends fly 2M.
> 
> Anyway, if you want classes that require real skill, I look forward 
to you
> entering F3b at next years Nats.
> 

What!!??  2 Meters suck?  I just spent like 8 months building one!  I 
guess I might as well toss it in the trash then.  Or better yet let it 
thermal away.  Shame, it seems to fly so well.



:-)  Smiley added for Jim and other's benefit!  

Ryan


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Re: [RCSE] NATS Entries Look Good-Death to 2-meter

2005-06-30 Thread James V. Bacus

I always know you are smiling, dude...  8-)


At 03:47 PM 6/29/2005, rdwoebke wrote:

:-)  Smiley added for Jim and other's benefit!


Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net

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[RCSE] Good guy alert

2005-06-30 Thread Brian Smith
I bought a couple items from George Joy..  Not only were they cheaper by far
than I could get them elsewhere, they set an F3B speed run record to my mail
box. I am very pleased.  Brian Smith

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[RCSE] LISF MOM contest report

2005-06-30 Thread Anker Berg-Sonne


The CRRC team at the spring LISF contest consisted of Fritz Bien, Dave 
Walter, John Nilsson, Mark Drela, Jose Bruzual, Miner Crary, Bruce 
Schneider and your's truly. Most of us caravaned to the Econo Lodge in 
Hicksville in the afternoon and were punished with heavy traffic in the 
usual spots. The backup on the Hutch just after 287 was brutal, and our 
feeble jokes about the fake cell tower pine tree didn't do much to relieve 
the boredom, especially for Dave and Fritz in Frit'z Volvo with a dying AC. 
It has been a long, cold winter, but last weekend tried to make up for it 
with muggy, hazy temperatures in the 90's. Well, we made in 4 1/2 hours, 
which wasn't too bad, and after hooking up with Jose, who drove in from 
Upstate, we went to the Outback for a 1 hour wait and a steak, and then 
time to crash.


Saturday morning was pretty steamy and there was a fresh breeze blowing 
from the start. After breakfast at the "New Shiny Diner", we stocked up for 
lunch at Stop and Shop and then off to the LISF field. The first thing we 
noticed was how small the mown area was, and then how short the winch lines 
were. My guess is that they weren't over 500' long. Allmost all of the CRRC 
members showed up in Red Sox T-shrts and baseball caps, which the New 
Yorkers took well. The briefing was the usual John Hauff briefing with a 
couple of exceptions. For one, he didn't say "don't break my winch lines", 
instead it was "no one is going to break these winch lines", and he was 
right. I don't know how heavy the lines were, but there was basically no 
stretch. Format was seeded MOM (Man-on-Man), with short-short landing tapes 
and no field boundaries except being thrown out of the contest if we landed 
in the adjacent soccer fields. The ground was so hard skegs didn't help 
with the landings. The short, heavy winch lines, plus the fact that there 
were no retrievers, and the 12-15 mph breeze combined to really stress the 
planes, not helped by the fact that all flyers tried to make the most of 
the launches. In the first round the carnage started. Phil Barnes ship (a 
moldie) had violent aileron flutter on the zoom, he got it down in one 
piece, but it looked like an ornicopter with violently fluttering ailerons 
when he came in for the landing. Next to suffer problems was Mike 
Lachowski, who broke a wing joiner on his moldie and did some spectacular 
flying with one wing panel missing. Chris Schuch creased the center panel 
of his Mantis, but by letting off on the winch on subsequent launches he 
was able to fly it the rest of the weekend. Bruce creased the center panel 
of his Aegea and had to make a rapid switch to his backup plane. I wimped 
out and decided to fly after popping off on the first launch. All of this 
in the first round! Dave's and John's repaired Aegea center sections didn't 
have a problem at all. In the next round Josh Glaab broke his fuselage in 
three pieces on the launch. My flying was miserable and I managed to pop 
off twice, twist the wing once and launch into the sun on the final round. 
I was rewarded with a position at the bottom of the heap. Being in 
contention required some gutsy flying downwind, and it was amazing that we 
only had two off-field (or rather in the woods) landings.In the third or 
fourth round I was timing for Jose and he didn't make it back and landed in 
the woods deep enough that it was non-trivial to locate the plane. Just 
that morning we had talked about the value of having Walston retrievers, 
and Jose commented that he really needed to get one. So we had a line to 
his plane, but a heavy thicket of brush and thorns that forced us to take a 
major detour. A quick walk through the woods during the lunch break didn't 
locate the plane, and it was obvious we needed something more sophisticated 
than random wandering. Our solution was to put my Walston transmitter in 
Jose's pocket and leave Fritz on the field with the receiver. Communicating 
with walkie-talkie's he was able to tell us where we were relative to the 
line. I also took my PDA GPS and used two waypoints to define the line to 
the plane. I was delighted to see that the new GPS worked in the woods. 
Anyway, once we heard from Fritz that we were on the line, Chris was able 
to walk right up to the plane. It was stuck about 30' up in a tree, but 
Bill Anderson from LISF had two poles that could be taped together and were 
long enough to reach the plane. A Y-shaped stick taped to the end was 
perfect for hooking the tail, and after a little maneuvering we had it on 
the ground with minimal damage. All scratched up from the plane retrieval, 
and sweaty from the heat we returned back to the motel for a refreshing 
shower. Dinner was at our new traditional place, the St. James. 
Conversation at dinner and at Starbuck's afterwards centered on how to deal 
with creasing wings. Mark's suggestion is to use riblets, something I had 
never heard of before. Basically, a riblet is a thin piece of carbon that 
i

[RCSE] Re: ballast ? wing/fuse

2005-06-30 Thread Jo Grini
Problem with wing ballast is that you want differrent CG for different 
tasks. And maybe different CG on different wing loadings. This means you are 
stuck on one CG and will have to also put something in the nose (or take 
out)

So even if it takes most time I like slugs and spacers...
Lets take my Brio X-tail that I mostly fly on 119mm CG for duration tasks 
(from leading edge).

Then in speed I fly it at 115mm with 1100g of lead (wing loading apx 51g/dm)
In distance I like it to be at the same 115mm with 550g of lead (wing 
loading apx 42g/dm)
Then I go to the slope and because of my flying style, wind gradient 
(turbulence) and shape of some slopes I vary from 112-119mm with 500g or 
1000g..
My point is that my X-tail model likes to be "neutral" for speeds in F3B at 
115mm but for other tasks I may shift it a bit..


Anyhow this discussion come sup every 2-4 months it seems ;-)

Hilsen (Regards) Jojo
www.grini.no



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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:33:07 -0500
From: Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ian Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Laurel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   Dave Hauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: RCSE 
Subject: Re: [RCSE] ballast ?  wing/fuse
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ian,

Good point on the fuse ballast when using slugs. All my fuse ballasted
planes use different weight bars, tubes or slabs but all the same 
dimensions

with the centre of the weight at the CG.  I use aluminum, brass, steel or
lead and can vary the weight through a wide range without changing the CG.
Care would be prudent if you used slugs and spacers to get an even
distribution of weight.


--
Greg Smith
Slope Soaring Resource
http://www.slopeflyer.com

US distributor for Wizard Compact II, Opus DS V, Majko, Airtech models and
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[RCSE] SoLong UAV

2005-06-30 Thread James V. Bacus
This UAV looks so much like a sailplane...   thought you guys might find 
this interesting that haven't seen it before.


http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001647.html


Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net

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[RCSE] Bubble Wrap and Mylar Bags

2005-06-30 Thread tgressman
Looking for assistance in locating a tool to laminate bubble wrap and mylar in order to make wing bags.  Tom Gressman/RMSA/Denver


Re: [RCSE] SoLong UAV

2005-06-30 Thread Bill Swingle
>> any chance they could offer wing sets to sailplane
>> folks.

Guys, the plan form is supremely simple. I'm sure any decent builder on this
list could duplicate them pretty easily.

Each side of the wing is just 3 panels spanning 2.6' each. With the outer
one swept about 60% on a single taper.

Doesn't seem that complex to me. Or desirable either.

Bill Swingle


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Re: [RCSE] painting monocote

2005-06-30 Thread Charles Eaton



Try the Monocote spray paints.  I have used it on 
fuselages, it is high quality and does a nice job.  I have been reluctant 
to use it on monocote - how well will it repair when needed and what if you 
need to re-shrink a wrinkly wing that is painted?

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  Subject: Re: [RCSE] painting 
  monocote
  
  Has any body tried that FUSION paint advertised on TV? Does it work on 
  Duralene or Monokote? Inquiring minds would like to know ;^))
  
  
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[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #5921 re: Bubblewrap bonded to quilted aluminum, for wing bags

2005-06-30 Thread BOBCANMAN



Tom Gressman asked about bonding bubblewrap to Mylar.  You can buy a 
24" wide roll 25' long of bubblewrap bonded to quilted aluminum foil.  The 
product is called Reflectix, made by 
 
Reflectix, Inc. 
#1 School St.
Markleville, IN  46056  
1-765-533-4332
National  1-800 879-3645
 
I have been using Reflectix for wingbags for years.  In Wisconsin 
it is carried by a builder supply chain called Menards.  Just wrap it 
around your wing, cut off the extra and stick on a pair of Velcro self stick1 
in. squares inside the joint every 8 inches.  I had  one wing 
with an 11 in. chord so I stuck on a duct tape extension for an extra inch for 
the Velcro.  I have a quarter scale Reiher-2  with a 17.5" root 
chord.  The fold was along the root with Velcro fastening both the LE and 
the TE.  I have a 2 meter one piece Lil' Scorpion wing with a one piece 
wing bag.  The Reflectix conforms to the polyhedral if the wing is 
carefully pushed down against the crease.  
 
 I imagine most of you have been warned not to use plain bubble wrap 
as it will let the sun cook the wing just like having a black wing upside down 
in the sun.
 
Bob Harold


[RCSE] "MidSouth Champs Sucked.."

2005-06-30 Thread GordySoar



a bunch of soaring fun right out of me!
 
I answered my wake up call this morning at 8a.m. in Knoxville Tn and 
proceeded to go back to sleep. Woke up at 9:30 and had to use the old 'got a 
flat tire' excuse to my customer ...they are used to it and knew it was a 
euphanism of mine for too tired from soaring :-)
 
Got my Saturday and Sunday trophies up on the wall and now all packed to 
head to Baltimore to meet my buddy Michael Volz for a couple of days of fun in 
the sun.
Gordy


[RCSE] "I pity the fools got the 'old' version Pike Superiors" :-)

2005-06-30 Thread GordySoar



Just got home to find my two new full carbon 'lite' version Pikes 
Xtails.
 
Yeah I know they are the same as the two regular full carbon Volz 
Powered Pikes that have been building a wood pile in my office for the 
last 2 or 3 years, but they do have a new tight weave lighter carbon cloth, 
instead of the glass covered carbon cloth in my originals.
 
I also had them beef up a set of stabs for me, for those days when you just 
can't seem to get started so the only fix is to DS a few hours :-)
 
I asked them to not put the flap horn inserts in the wings since I like to 
put the old carbon horns out the bottom. Still a small notch in the top, a lot 
smaller than usual but I suppose it has to do with the mold and I can't wait to 
hear what tune they are going to play in a dive:-)
 
Some assembly required but I am really quick at getting the Volz mounts in 
place, creating the wing linkages and wiring harnesses, so should have them air 
worthy in time for the Nats.
 
Instead of Red White and Blue these are ...okay the same :-)
 
Gordy


[RCSE] Soprano Gets Wood at SVSS

2005-06-30 Thread Mark Miller
 I am happy to report that Isthmus Models sponsored
Perry Fruge (age 11) took 1st place in Junior beating
open class ships with his RES Soprano. He also got 2nd
in RES overall against the big boys.

1 contest 2 pieces of wood. The first day the wind
blew like hell and it was loaded up with one tube of
ballast. The 2nd was much better will low wind and no
ballast.

Congrats to Perry!

Mark Miller
Isthmus Models



 
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[RCSE] Thermal Contest

2005-06-30 Thread Lee Cox

The entries are closing for the 3rd. Annual “Gamblers Gala Contest”  Two days of flying at the foot of the beautiful Sierra Mountains. The contest site is only 11 mile down hill from South Shore Lake Tahoe. 5 rounds on Saturday and 4 rounds on Sunday.   A great dinner at JT’s Basque restaurant on Saturday Eve. And a FUN and entertaining events after contest on Sunday. Plus a CASH RAFFLE ??  Part of each entry goes to the raffle $
 
All information at >> www.sierrasilentsoarers.com  
 
If you send me an Email stating your entry with fees is in the mail I will accept late entries
 
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[RCSE] For Sale

2005-06-30 Thread RCSoaring

I have the following servos For Sale.
Contact me off line at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested.

(2) Airtronics 94141 new in sealed plastic box. $65
(2) Hitec HS-5125MG Digital wing servos also new in box. $85

Shipping included Con US.

Doug Buchanan
Seattle, WA
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