RE: [RCSE] War story
What? No, autopilot? :-) How did you guys compensate for a Dutch roll tendency? We got Yaw Dampers, today did you guys have them back then I was just a vapor in the mist? Don -Original Message- From: Chuck Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:58 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] War story Things have been a little slow on RCSE lately so I decided to post another war story. I am out of stories short enough to be posted here so I am posting the start of a much longer story. This story happened in February, 1956. Hope you enjoy it. Chuck Anderson The reflections of the flight line floodlights glittered in the puddles of water on the ramp as I rode the line taxi out to my plane. The ceiling was about 2000 ft. with layers of stratus up to 18000 ft and no higher clouds. At least that's what the weatherman in base ops said. There was also no moon until after midnight. A perfect night for flying! Especially since the mission was high altitude target for F86D All Weather Interceptors. I went out to the T33 early to be sure the canopy was clean. The crew chief looked a little unhappy when I ask him for some cleaning fluid and a clean rag. A few wipes removed the smudges on the inside of the canopy over the pilot's head. The outside of the canopy was clean so I was ready to start engines early. Takeoff was on time and I initiated a slight right turn as I passed over the end of the runway to cross over the center of the East Bay Bridge and provide additional clearance from the housing area just to the left of runway 31L. The lights of Tyndall blinked out as I entered the base of the overcast. The fuselage strobe lights began reflecting off the clouds creating a flickering effect in the cockpit. The strobe lights could induce vertigo when flying at night in the clouds so I turned them off. The wing tip lights continued to produce a red glow around the left tip tank while a green glow surrounded the right tip tank. I did not break out of the clouds at 18,000 ft as promised by the weather forecaster. At 20,000 ft, the red and green glows around the tip tanks had vanished so I turned the strobe lights on again. There was no reflection so I was clear of clouds. The plane was flying in a completely black void with nothing visible outside the cockpit. Haze layer! A star finally became visible overhead when passing through 25,000 ft and, at 28,000 ft, the whole sky exploded with thousands of stars as I broke through the top of the haze layer. I was flying in a giant inverted bowl filled with stars. Somewhere below my right wing tip Tallahassee lay buried beneath the clouds while ahead lay Albany, Georgia. A quick check of the cabin altitude indicated that cabin pressurization was holding good. The climb was now less than a thousand feet a minute and decreasing but I should be able to get to 42,000 ft ahead of time. The controller vectored me into a holding pattern over Albany while I continued to climb. The controller informed me that the fighter takeoff was late as usual so I had a few extra minutes to enjoy the spectacular view outside my canopy. I finally leveled off at 42,000 and trimmed the plane for level flight. Once stabilized in the holding pattern, I turned the cockpit lights down until the instruments were just barely visible. Now there were no reflections on the canopy to mar the view. There were thousands of stars just outside the canopy. A red one. That must be Mars. Blue white stars. Bright stars. Dim stars. The Milky Way cut a glowing band across the sky. How many stars can I see? Wherever I look, there are stars. Look at a blank area for a few seconds and a myriad of faint glowing dots become visible. There were so many stars that it was difficult to pick out constellations that were so familiar and easy to see from the ground. The stars looked so close that it seems as if I could reach out and grab one if I just could reach through the canopy. John Gillespie Magee you must have seen something like this to be able to write High Flight! A faint vibration in the control stick interrupted my enjoyment of the view. A little back pressure on the stick dropped the airspeed below the critical Mach number and eliminated the aileron buzz. I turned the cockpit lights up and noted that I had lost 500 ft. Control called as I leveled off and gave me a new heading to fly. The fighters were airborne and it was time to go to work. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in
Re: [RCSE] Why are so many guys unsubscribing?
Your sorta right D.O. The advantage that maybe you are not aware of is that there are forums out there where you get a message stating that someone has contributed a comment (or more) to a thread you have subscribed to. When yo go there, there might be pics, or just text, or both. It does not download to your computer. It kinda nice! There are a myriad of topics that try hard to remain on topic. The monitors do a bang-up job of keeping...well...everything on track. This last part might seem limiting, but it is not. I like to look at it as if we were all standing in the same room. There would be those who, by their own hand, fall by the wayside rather quickly...for all the right reasons. I cling to this forum because I have listened here for many years. So have many others, whose names we see once in a while. And like me, will contribute as we see fit not to read ourselves in print, but to contribute to the love and art of soaring. I say cling because the content has been more of those who wish to toot the own horn as opposed to, As Harley so rightly put it...contribute. If I may be so bold as to point out two things: 1) There are those who contribute valuable information from time to time, because they want to. 2) There are those who see the forum as their captive audience. So, given the above, it does not take a rocket scientist to realize that even it will never change. Even in olden times everyone needed a court jester. I could apply filters to those that the majority would punt (I am being kind) from that room I mentioned, but then I would not be so richly rewarded with the affirmation that life is as it should be here on RCSE. Next time you read a message which is self-promoting, pontificating, etc, etc, think about that fact that without this list they have little. Chances are they have alienated everyone around them. So give them their glory. Instead of calling a buddy to join me tomorrow to go to a local flying mecca (Chris's cottage), I sent him an email. The reason being is that he had MAJOR mouth surgery today, I won't wake him up if he is in pain asking him to us us to fly. We got home this evening and there's a message stating...I will be there. That's all. I did not start typing this message thinking that I needed to include some sort of soaring content. I do not give a RAT'S ASS whether I did or not. Neither should the rest of you. For those of you who elect to get the digest version, live with it. For those of you who dislike certain folks, use your delete key...only after you have afirmed the above truisms. Whatever you do, don't tune out. oh ya...get rid of AOL OK, I can't resist..for the content nazis...don't hit the ground too hard with your saiplane today, and buy it an ice cream on the way home. d. o. darnell wrote: Why are folks unsubscribing? It's probably because they use TEXT ONLY format, (the requested and proper way for this type of forum) and are very, very tired wading thru HTML, headers, TO: lists, and other unusable garbage. I love to read Gordy, cause the man's got soul, but he too is another MIME. :) AOL isn't controllable, according to users. Cant turn MIME off? Can't turn Gordy off either, come to think of it! I think the digest-format is best cause it's fastest when scanning and skipping. Threaded forums )RCUSERS) are OK for more granular information, but I don't read any so I may be missing the point. Whatever. IMHO, Outlook just plane sucks: (to many bells for the average, at-home user and VERY hackable). Because of the wah the Internet works, we DON'T need pictures or attachments in our kind of forum. If you want to post pictures, etc, you should put em on your own web page/site and put the URL in the RCSE message. Those who want to look can and the rest are not burdened with unwanted content. Speaking of which, about 70% of the RCSE message traffic is now unusable (HTML). We don't need all the fat going back and forth and I'm not really interested in work-arounds. May this it the reason? Maybe not. Just my .02 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Simon Van Leeuwen RADIUS SYSTEMS PnP SYSTEMS - The E-Harness of Choice Cogito Ergo Zooom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA's position with regard to soaring
Martin really has this one absolutely right! Keith I like the present situation because there's a sort of gentlemen's agreement with the FAA -- we don't interfere with full-size traffic and they leave us alone. It works well for both parties. The FAA assumes that we're responsible people but reserves the right to wield a big stick if we're not. All Dave Brown can do is disturb a stable situation. He can't request exclusive use of airspace up to 700' without seriously restricting the number of places we can fly. Full size pilots have to share the air. They just have to look where they're going, especially near the ground. There are birds up there. There are other people blundering around in planes and ultralights. There's parafoils, balloons -- all sorts of things. Our models add just a tiny bit extra to the mix -- there's not a lot of us, we're predictable, we avoid areas where planes fly and we can get out the way quickly if we have to. So if we're not being a problem then why try to find a solution? My hope is the FAA is more pragmatic than the AMA. So far, so good. Martin Usher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Why are folks unsubscribing?
Why are folks unsubscribing? It's probably because they use TEXT ONLY format, (the requested and proper way for this type of forum) and are very, very tired wading thru HTML, headers, TO: lists, and other unusable garbage. AOL isn't controllable, according to users. Cant turn MIME off? Can't turn Gordy off either, come to think of it! Look guys! Quit blaming AOL for your laziness. Once upon a time it was true you couldn't turn off HTML but that argument no longer applies. Simply highlight the passage you want to resend and when you are done with your message, Right click on your mouse and an info block will appear on your screen. Select the one that reads compose as plan text and you have made us happy. To summarize; Do not hit reply or reply to all Highlight only what is necessary to carry the conversation. Right click and select the plane text option. Sigh! You do have to do this for each message you send as AOL does revert back to HTML each time. Dumb but true. Dennis in NH RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Thank You Mike Banyon!
The Duck fuse was waiting for me when I got home from the NATS. It is just what I needed. I now have the wings, fuse and stabs. Now I am searching for some used servo's, like Airtronics metal gear 141's or HS 85 MG's, also JR 341's would work. You are a Gentleman! Thank you very much. Mike Remus LOFT Glider Club Fort Wayne IN LSF Level 5 #112 Remember; Think small. Big ideas upset others! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA's position with regard to soaring
Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Mid-air. - Original Message - From: Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] AMA's position with regard to soaring Martin really has this one absolutely right! Keith I like the present situation because there's a sort of gentlemen's agreement with the FAA -- we don't interfere with full-size traffic and they leave us alone. It works well for both parties. The FAA assumes that we're responsible people but reserves the right to wield a big stick if we're not. All Dave Brown can do is disturb a stable situation. He can't request exclusive use of airspace up to 700' without seriously restricting the number of places we can fly. Full size pilots have to share the air. They just have to look where they're going, especially near the ground. There are birds up there. There are other people blundering around in planes and ultralights. There's parafoils, balloons -- all sorts of things. Our models add just a tiny bit extra to the mix -- there's not a lot of us, we're predictable, we avoid areas where planes fly and we can get out the way quickly if we have to. So if we're not being a problem then why try to find a solution? My hope is the FAA is more pragmatic than the AMA. So far, so good. Martin Usher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] F3B winch for TD?
Why would you want to replace monofilament with braided line. That would be too boring. Mono launches are more fun. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can an F3B winch be used for normal TD launching if the monofilament is taken of and 290 test line put on. Maurice RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Is there an optometrist...
Anyone have a Sailaire for Daryl? They are easy to see. Daryl Perkins wrote: So DP, just what will your New airplane be named??? The Schrink? That has already been suggested. And... since I'll be needing a new 2 meter... look for the Insane Shrink 2 soon Don't usually do a new plane til the break-up... but in this case I'm sure she'll understand... ;-) Thanks for all the input guys. A trip to the ol' eye doctor is in order when I get home. I hope she's hot... ;-) D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Why are folks unsubscribing?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 6:06 AM People might be unsubscribing because they are going on vacation (this is summertime) and don't want to come home to 700 old messages regardless of the content. John To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Why are folks unsubscribing? Why are folks unsubscribing? It's probably because they use TEXT ONLY format, (the requested and proper way for this type of forum) and are very, very tired wading thru HTML, headers, TO: lists, and other unusable garbage. AOL isn't controllable, according to users. Cant turn MIME off? Can't turn Gordy off either, come to think of it! ??? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Why are folks unsubscribing?
People might be unsubscribing because they are going on vacation (this is summertime) and don't want to come home to 700 old messages regardless of the content. John RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] [RCSE]Seeking Charlie Kendall
Anuybody know where Charlie Kendall is? He was the MOSS club contact in eastern Ohio. Email bouncing now. Did he move? Yo, Charlie!
Re: [RCSE] AMA's position with regard to soaring
Great call Tom. I agree! Let's not get our panties in a bunch everyone. Cheers AL Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) The Bag Lady Cell 530-228-9445 Fax 530-343-1715 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] War story
Great story. I was there man. - Original Message - From: Chuck Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: [RCSE] War story Things have been a little slow on RCSE lately so I decided to post another war story. I am out of stories short enough to be posted here so I am posting the start of a much longer story. This story happened in February, 1956. Hope you enjoy it. Chuck Anderson The reflections of the flight line floodlights glittered in the puddles of water on the ramp as I rode the line taxi out to my plane. The ceiling was about 2000 ft. with layers of stratus up to 18000 ft and no higher clouds. At least that's what the weatherman in base ops said. There was also no moon until after midnight. A perfect night for flying! Especially since the mission was high altitude target for F86D All Weather Interceptors. I went out to the T33 early to be sure the canopy was clean. The crew chief looked a little unhappy when I ask him for some cleaning fluid and a clean rag. A few wipes removed the smudges on the inside of the canopy over the pilot's head. The outside of the canopy was clean so I was ready to start engines early. Takeoff was on time and I initiated a slight right turn as I passed over the end of the runway to cross over the center of the East Bay Bridge and provide additional clearance from the housing area just to the left of runway 31L. The lights of Tyndall blinked out as I entered the base of the overcast. The fuselage strobe lights began reflecting off the clouds creating a flickering effect in the cockpit. The strobe lights could induce vertigo when flying at night in the clouds so I turned them off. The wing tip lights continued to produce a red glow around the left tip tank while a green glow surrounded the right tip tank. I did not break out of the clouds at 18,000 ft as promised by the weather forecaster. At 20,000 ft, the red and green glows around the tip tanks had vanished so I turned the strobe lights on again. There was no reflection so I was clear of clouds. The plane was flying in a completely black void with nothing visible outside the cockpit. Haze layer! A star finally became visible overhead when passing through 25,000 ft and, at 28,000 ft, the whole sky exploded with thousands of stars as I broke through the top of the haze layer. I was flying in a giant inverted bowl filled with stars. Somewhere below my right wing tip Tallahassee lay buried beneath the clouds while ahead lay Albany, Georgia. A quick check of the cabin altitude indicated that cabin pressurization was holding good. The climb was now less than a thousand feet a minute and decreasing but I should be able to get to 42,000 ft ahead of time. The controller vectored me into a holding pattern over Albany while I continued to climb. The controller informed me that the fighter takeoff was late as usual so I had a few extra minutes to enjoy the spectacular view outside my canopy. I finally leveled off at 42,000 and trimmed the plane for level flight. Once stabilized in the holding pattern, I turned the cockpit lights down until the instruments were just barely visible. Now there were no reflections on the canopy to mar the view. There were thousands of stars just outside the canopy. A red one. That must be Mars. Blue white stars. Bright stars. Dim stars. The Milky Way cut a glowing band across the sky. How many stars can I see? Wherever I look, there are stars. Look at a blank area for a few seconds and a myriad of faint glowing dots become visible. There were so many stars that it was difficult to pick out constellations that were so familiar and easy to see from the ground. The stars looked so close that it seems as if I could reach out and grab one if I just could reach through the canopy. John Gillespie Magee you must have seen something like this to be able to write High Flight! A faint vibration in the control stick interrupted my enjoyment of the view. A little back pressure on the stick dropped the airspeed below the critical Mach number and eliminated the aileron buzz. I turned the cockpit lights up and noted that I had lost 500 ft. Control called as I leveled off and gave me a new heading to fly. The fighters were airborne and it was time to go to work. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as
[RCSE] FS Tragi 705x
The Tragi is sold. thanks for the BW. JD
Re: [RCSE] Is there an optometrist...
First its the eyes that go south... Then... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Nats 2005 first knee jerk reaction
Wow, that was tough... I am so worn out. HOT weather, tough conditions for soaring, great competition, lots of flying. Jo Grini was a kick to be around, many of us have a new friend. Yesterday we had almost the best weather of the entire week to play with RES and Nostalgia, I was laughing my butt off at Capn' Jack trying to fly his 10' Hobie. I flew a bunch of new models last week, my molded Image was a blast to fly, and so was my new Soprano which I flew in RES. I was very happy to work my way into the finals in F3J, and to win a pocket full of singles in the landing skins game with some excellent pilots. Tom Kiesling... he just keeps getting better and better. The flying he was doing was incredible, super consistent. I have it seen it mentioned here yet, but do you realize that not only did he almost win everything last week, but he won unlimited without using a skeg on a inch per point tape. Think he is ready for the F3J team selections? I never really got any sleep during the week, doing the daily Nats news at the end of a long day of competing was over the top. I know none of us were there today, but the news from yesterday still went out as I finished it early this morning, here it is... I am finished. http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/natsnews.asp I will not be covering the R/C soaring Nats in the Model Aviation magazine, they decided to do the daily format online and assigned me to that. There won't be a Nats issue of Model Aviation this year, it will be done as a single column in a future issue by a gentleman that doesn't participate in our area of the hobby. I doubt that I will do that again if they decide to continue with this format, I can't produce the quality writing and pictures I would like after a tough day of flying, and do that day after day. No worries though, I took all the pictures I normally do and I will either publish my Nats write up on the LSF SilentFlight web site or my own in due time. First, I will get some picture galleries up soon, lots of great pictures... lots of great memories. This Nats was very special to me, but not in any of the ways I have ever appreciated it in the past. I am lucky to have so many friends in this hobby, and that moment in time we spent together last week to me will be treasured forever. Thanks. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] RES
Check: http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/natsnews.aspRES is at the bottom of Saturday's: here's the trophy guysRound 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Total 1 Lachowski, Michael 1,055 1,063 1,081 1,070 4,269 2 Vera, Edgar 1,000 1,072 1,088 1,096 4,256 3 Storie, Larry 997 1,075 1,057 1,089 4,218 4 Scully, Tom 1,074 1,072 1,046 1,008 4,200 5 Andersen, Barry 1,009 1,073 1,053 1,051 4,186 6 Tock, Tom 1,080 1,051 1,000 1,040 4,171 7 Kallevang, Tom 1,000 1,044 1,053 1,059 4,156 The NATS news has each days scores and each round scores listed. Lots of 1000+ for anyone with a prize.BarryOn Jul 29, 2005, at 11:30 PM, Brian Smith wrote:Is it too soon to ask who won RES and the other top placers? Thanks for thedaily updates. BrianRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Wanted: Bowman's Hobbies Scooter
Does anyone have a Scooter laying around they want to part with. RTF or NIB, I don't care. I just found some slopes about 5 minutes from my work that I want to explore. Perfect for lunch hour or after work fun. Thank you! Mike Las Vegas, NV RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] FS: Real Balls TD Winch
No, not mine. I saw this ad on RCGroups and I thought I'd pass it along to the group. (I have no idea who the seller is.) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399119 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] RES
Can anyone tell me the highest finish of a kit (not ARF) or scratch built in the RES and Unlimited contests at the Nats. They are the ones that I follow and no posts I have found have posted the builder and plane on the net, that I have found. I love the guys that have the skill to build, and not buy, in this hobby and I cant find any info. Thanks! John
[RCSE] Nats
Hey guys, not sure if this is a soaring related post or not. I'll probably interject some humor, and some personal thoughts about my experience this year in Muncie. I'm not going to talk about airfoils, camber, CG, launch technique, tow hook position, servos (although Airtronics new digitals ROCK ;-) - uh oh... there I go again), airframes, RDS, or even... u Skeeters. So if this type of meaningless drivel doesn't interest you, please hit delete now. I apologize for having taken up the last 30 seconds of your internet experience. Otherwise, come along while I relive some of the best and worst moments of this years Soaring Nationals - from my rather skewed perspective of course. The 2005 Nationals are over. What a week it was! There was controversy, there was hardship, there was tough air, there was easy air. There was HEAT! There was rain... and we even had a nice day in there too. Oh yeah... and I had a blast!!! What a hoot! - As Cap'n Jack says. It was nice to see some new faces attending. Some very talented So Cal guys showed up for their first time. I've always tried to explain to some of the So Cal pilots I fly with how tough the air can be in Muncie. California pilots are so spoiled. I don't think they have really understood... until now. That's what makes the man on man aspect of the Nats so much fun. One bad move, and you're out of it. The landing task for 2M and Open - 1 point per inch - not a runway, but a spot. In my opinion, there is not a more fair form of measurement. Tom Kiesling is really flying well as he goes towards the US F3J team selections. He beat us all with no skeg. His plane is very impressive - a ton of performance, and very light. In the end at open class, Tom and I were only 6 points (or 6 inches) apart. He deserves the win. I cheated - I used a skeg. Great flying Tom! It was good to see Edgar and Al out there - they had some issues, I do hope they come back. JoJo is a great guy. He finds fun in every aspect of soaring. I got to know Gordy a bit better - he's much better in person than his posts let on... ;-) I was able to spend some quality time with an old soaring friend, Larry Jolly. It's a shame how, as life goes on, we lose touch with old friends. I'm going to try and make more effort to stay in touch with those that made a difference in my life. Jack, Karen, Jim Bacus - always such a great attitude and fun to be with. JT - just thanks. Sheldon, the turn-around troll, thanks for telling everyone I cheat! ;-) His kids were racing me in their cart versus mine.. and they had a faster cart. S I had to cut them off for the win nothing Dale Earnhardt Jr. wouldn't do... Marc Gellart - what a great guy. Thanks for letting me fly on your F3J team. Paul Sherman - definite attitude, a lot of fun, and a great stick. I like that in a guy. Reminds me of some a@@hole I used to know... ;-) Josh Glaab, so much talent, great to see his entire family in Muncie - kids and all. The Chicago guys - Tom Kallevang, Jim McCarthy and clan (sons - there's a ton of them). Thanks David for picking me up at the airport. Jon Diniz and Peter Goldsmith of Horizon - these guys are gonna be good. Oh, and I just hate 'em... they're nice guys. Jon Diniz timed for my Airtronics totin' a@@ on a few occasions. If they only had a good radio... they could be REALLY good! ;-) Chuck Anderson, Ed Whyte - great to see you guys. So many names I've left out, so many new friends, reunited with some old ones. Sorry if this isn't necessarily about soaring - but this is what the Nats is about to me now... I've been soaring for almost exactly 20 years now, and I finally realize winning isn't everything. (Hey! Who just wrote that?) ;-) I had a tough week soaring-wise. My performance wasn't up to par. Well, let me rephrase that - my scoring wasn't up to my expectations. Actually, I feel like I flew pretty well... I was in the hunt in F3J, made the flyoffs, just misplaced my toy. I was still in the air as people were landing in my 2M flight... just couldn't see it... h seems to be a theme here. So I did lose a couple of very nice models. Very special thanks to Bill Wingstedt for loaning me his Sharon so I can attend the F3J team selections. Gutsy move Mav ;-) That's one of the things I so enjoy about this hobby. People I didn't even know were walking up to me offering their models so I could continue competing. What a great group of people. Thanks to everyone I interacted with this week. I'm sure I left many special people off this list. I'm sorry guys... my eyes aren't the only things that are going. Special Congrats to National Champs Phil Barnes and Tom Kiesling. Nice flying guys! And Jojo - thanks for taping my shame... ;-) Neat video! Thanks buddy - it's fun to watch. So, everybody... if you think you might enjoy a week long soaring party, with many great people... come out to Muncie next year. You'll be glad you did. Thanks for the bandwidth - now back to your regularly scheduled
[RCSE] RE: NATS 2005 first knee jerk reaction
Jim I just wanted to say Thank you very much for your hard work Jim... I missed out on this year's NATS between having a child with some rather serious health issues, and me with a rather nasty case of Pneumonia that landed me in the hospital not long before the start of the soaring boot camp week er... I mean the NATS. I still have the Pneumonia and not quite back to work. I missed out this year getting to meet all my old friends, and missed out on making new friends... But your work helped me not miss all the fun and friends of the week while lying in bed... So once again I will say a big THANKS Jim. Dr. Danny Williams Colorado Springs, Co SNIP~TRIM~~~ From: James V. Bacus To: Subject: Nats 2005 first knee jerk reaction Wow, that was tough... I am so worn out. HOT weather, tough conditions for soaring, great competition, lots of flying. Jo Grini was a kick to be around, many of us have a new friend. Yesterday we had almost the best weather of the entire week to play with RES and Nostalgia, I was laughing my butt off at Capn' Jack trying to fly his 10' Hobie. I flew a bunch of new models last week, my molded Image was a blast to fly, and so was my new Soprano which I flew in RES. I was very happy to work my way into the finals in F3J, and to win a pocket full of singles in the landing skins game with some excellent pilots. First, I will get some picture galleries up soon, lots of great pictures... lots of great memories. This Nats was very special to me, but not in any of the ways I have ever appreciated it in the past. I am lucky to have so many friends in this hobby, and that moment in time we spent together last week to me will be treasured forever. Thanks. Jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Top finishers at the NATS
- Original Message - From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone tell me the highest finish of a kit (not ARF) or scratch built in the RES and Unlimited contests at the Nat's. First in HL was my Taboo GT. You might say that the Taboo is an ARF but since I make the wings for that (ARF ?) kit maybe that counts. First in F3J was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. First in 2M was Tom Kiesling's scratch built 2M Mantis. First in Unlimited was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. First in RES was Mike Lachowski's scratch built Bubble Dancer. Looks like a clean sweep for the ESL and scratch builders. The ESL didn't take Nostalgia but I guess all of the Nostalgia flyers are at least kit builders. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Top finishers at the NATS
Thanks Phil, Looks like someone M.D. designs had a lot of influence on the Nat's this year (at least on the air foils). John -Original Message- From: Phil Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:17 PM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] Top finishers at the NATS - Original Message - From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone tell me the highest finish of a kit (not ARF) or scratch built in the RES and Unlimited contests at the Nat's. First in HL was my Taboo GT. You might say that the Taboo is an ARF but since I make the wings for that (ARF ?) kit maybe that counts. First in F3J was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. First in 2M was Tom Kiesling's scratch built 2M Mantis. First in Unlimited was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. First in RES was Mike Lachowski's scratch built Bubble Dancer. Looks like a clean sweep for the ESL and scratch builders. The ESL didn't take Nostalgia but I guess all of the Nostalgia flyers are at least kit builders. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Top finishers at the NATS
I had a few other places with non-kits. 8th F3j and 10th in Unlimited with a moldie, but the molds for that moldie sit in my basement. I guess I qualify as the only non ARF moldie on the field. 2M was 6th with an Aegea 2M with my own pod design. RES was 1st with a Bubble Dancer, but the pod is actually the pod for my F3b moldie with a light layup and canopy instead of nosecone. 35 oz and yes, it was built in a 2 week timeperiod. Sometimes called Barney Dancer since it is purple and green. Phil Barnes wrote: - Original Message - From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone tell me the highest finish of a kit (not ARF) or scratch built in the RES and Unlimited contests at the Nat's. First in HL was my Taboo GT. You might say that the Taboo is an ARF but since I make the wings for that (ARF ?) kit maybe that counts. First in F3J was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. First in 2M was Tom Kiesling's scratch built 2M Mantis. First in Unlimited was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. First in RES was Mike Lachowski's scratch built Bubble Dancer. Looks like a clean sweep for the ESL and scratch builders. The ESL didn't take Nostalgia but I guess all of the Nostalgia flyers are at least kit builders. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Top finishers at the NATS
Barney Dancer I love it! Congrats on you accomplishments. John -Original Message- From: Michael Lachowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:27 PM To: RCSE Subject: Re: [RCSE] Top finishers at the NATS I had a few other places with non-kits. 8th F3j and 10th in Unlimited with a moldie, but the molds for that moldie sit in my basement. I guess I qualify as the only non ARF moldie on the field. 2M was 6th with an Aegea 2M with my own pod design. RES was 1st with a Bubble Dancer, but the pod is actually the pod for my F3b moldie with a light layup and canopy instead of nosecone. 35 oz and yes, it was built in a 2 week timeperiod. Sometimes called Barney Dancer since it is purple and green. Phil Barnes wrote: - Original Message - From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone tell me the highest finish of a kit (not ARF) or scratch built in the RES and Unlimited contests at the Nat's. First in HL was my Taboo GT. You might say that the Taboo is an ARF but since I make the wings for that (ARF ?) kit maybe that counts. First in F3J was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. First in 2M was Tom Kiesling's scratch built 2M Mantis. First in Unlimited was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. First in RES was Mike Lachowski's scratch built Bubble Dancer. Looks like a clean sweep for the ESL and scratch builders. The ESL didn't take Nostalgia but I guess all of the Nostalgia flyers are at least kit builders. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Top finishers at the NATS
Tom Scully finished 4th in RES with a beautiful Challenger from Sky Bench, finished 10 in NOS with it as well, he would have done better if I hadn't called him into some fine sink in round 2. Barry On Jul 30, 2005, at 9:26 PM, Michael Lachowski wrote: I had a few other places with non-kits. 8th F3j and 10th in Unlimited with a moldie, but the molds for that moldie sit in my basement. I guess I qualify as the only non ARF moldie on the field. 2M was 6th with an Aegea 2M with my own pod design. RES was 1st with a Bubble Dancer, but the pod is actually the pod for my F3b moldie with a light layup and canopy instead of nosecone. 35 oz and yes, it was built in a 2 week timeperiod. Sometimes called Barney Dancer since it is purple and green. Phil Barnes wrote: - Original Message - From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone tell me the highest finish of a kit (not ARF) or scratch built in the RES and Unlimited contests at the Nat's. First in HL was my Taboo GT. You might say that the Taboo is an ARF but since I make the wings for that (ARF ?) kit maybe that counts. First in F3J was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. First in 2M was Tom Kiesling's scratch built 2M Mantis. First in Unlimited was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. First in RES was Mike Lachowski's scratch built Bubble Dancer. Looks like a clean sweep for the ESL and scratch builders. The ESL didn't take Nostalgia but I guess all of the Nostalgia flyers are at least kit builders. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Top finishers at the NATS
First in HL was my Taboo GT. First in F3J was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. First in 2M was Tom Kiesling's scratch built 2M Mantis. First in Unlimited was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. Looks like a clean sweep for the ESL and scratch builders. I'm so glad to hear I didn't get outflown... I just got outbuilt... ;-) D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Top finishers at the NATS
I'm not sure that out built or outflown is in the vocabulary for you. Some is just luck of the draw. I have seen your scratch built work and I drool. John -Original Message- From: Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:47 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Top finishers at the NATS First in HL was my Taboo GT. First in F3J was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. First in 2M was Tom Kiesling's scratch built 2M Mantis. First in Unlimited was Tom Kiesling's scratch built Supra. Looks like a clean sweep for the ESL and scratch builders. I'm so glad to hear I didn't get outflown... I just got outbuilt... ;-) D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Nats 2005 first knee jerk reaction + thanks
G, there are so many folks to thank for their work to put this year's NATS together. If these people don't step up, the event doesn't happen. As it is now, the event runs with guys that have done this for a few years, know the drill, keep things moving and really keep things fun. This is just one guys humble observations. A big thanks has to go to Mark Gellart for his good work as event director, it takes both contest savvy, and real cahones, to step up to this task. Likewise, all the CD's deserve our thanks, Jim Thomas running the launches, Martin at landings, and of course, Marna making us all laugh with her impound humor; although note there were no radio induced ground contact events, thanks to her firm hand. Sheldon and the turnaround trolls keep chutes at the winches and seem to have fun doing it. Thanks to Tom Kallevang for steering LSF with a wise and fair hand. A special thanks to the other workers doing small things in the background with little notice or thanks so that we can fun. Thanks to Jimmy B for taking those fun pictures (there's a mirror L over Daryl's head in one pix- go find it) Apologies to anyone I overlooked. The NATS ran smoothly and efficiently, others have noted weather and air, it completely ran the gamut. Great fun, a chance to see other sailplane buddies that are seen perhaps only once a year, a chance to watch world class fliers do just that, a chance to have guys time for you that know way more than you do about air and will show you a thing or two, a chance to fly after the contest in wonderful late lift with nice floaty gliders, a chance to drink a barley pop with your soaring buddies, and of course, a chance to test your skills, push yourself and learn. Thanks to all that were kind enough to time for me and teach me. I had a great time and got to know some soaring guys a bit better. Barry Andersen On Jul 30, 2005, at 6:29 PM, James V. Bacus wrote: Wow, that was tough... I am so worn out. HOT weather, tough conditions for soaring, great competition, lots of flying. Jo Grini was a kick to be around, many of us have a new friend. Yesterday we had almost the best weather of the entire week to play with RES and Nostalgia, I was laughing my butt off at Capn' Jack trying to fly his 10' Hobie. I flew a bunch of new models last week, my molded Image was a blast to fly, and so was my new Soprano which I flew in RES. I was very happy to work my way into the finals in F3J, and to win a pocket full of singles in the landing skins game with some excellent pilots. Tom Kiesling... he just keeps getting better and better. The flying he was doing was incredible, super consistent. I have it seen it mentioned here yet, but do you realize that not only did he almost win everything last week, but he won unlimited without using a skeg on a inch per point tape. Think he is ready for the F3J team selections? I never really got any sleep during the week, doing the daily Nats news at the end of a long day of competing was over the top. I know none of us were there today, but the news from yesterday still went out as I finished it early this morning, here it is... I am finished. http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/natsnews.asp I will not be covering the R/C soaring Nats in the Model Aviation magazine, they decided to do the daily format online and assigned me to that. There won't be a Nats issue of Model Aviation this year, it will be done as a single column in a future issue by a gentleman that doesn't participate in our area of the hobby. I doubt that I will do that again if they decide to continue with this format, I can't produce the quality writing and pictures I would like after a tough day of flying, and do that day after day. No worries though, I took all the pictures I normally do and I will either publish my Nats write up on the LSF SilentFlight web site or my own in due time. First, I will get some picture galleries up soon, lots of great pictures... lots of great memories. This Nats was very special to me, but not in any of the ways I have ever appreciated it in the past. I am lucky to have so many friends in this hobby, and that moment in time we spent together last week to me will be treasured forever. Thanks. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that
[RCSE] COOL nats memories
Title: Message 1st priorities friends flying buddies. I just can't say enough on how special this group of people is. I couldn't begin to name everyone. Fond memories random thoughts. - being pretty well unprepared for F3J, andhaving the scores to prove it. :) - watching Larry Jolly and Craig Greening read the air in F3J. - flying an unballasted 2m in 15+ mph winds... and maxing several rounds. Asking myself turn by turn... "can I still get back to the field?" - getting awarded my LSF 5 plaque at the banquet. - shop talk with Tom and Mike about building techniques, air reading, etc. Starting to get the bug to bagmy own wingagain. - spending hours in the corn bean fields looking for planes. - flying 4 of my first 5 rounds in Unlimited grouped with Tom Kiesling. Boy I had him scared. :) - Jack's Hobie Hawk launches in Nostalgia. I thought he had invented a new F3B launch technique. The figure 8 tow. My COOLEST moment of the NATS... having an entire cooler full of ice water dumped on me while I was napping between rounds. Something about an initiation or something :) Marc Gellart said I actually levitated off the ground 3 feet or so.
