[RCSE] soaring issues

2005-08-13 Thread D Hauch
I was thinking today while setting up my winch in the rain
that i must have some serious issues.

But I just went one day in a row without flying and couldn't 
think of going two without. :-)

So I went twice today to make up for the missed day of soaring.

Dave Hauch
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RE: [RCSE] launch foreplay

2005-08-13 Thread Mark Howard
Your post reminded me of an towing anecdote.
I did the weave and pull thing once at a PPSS night contest. I'd thrown 
together a 2M poly wing I had laying around on a CF boom and put a set of HLG 
tail feathers way back a la logic design. Tested OK in the back yard so I 
applied night ops and was all ready. At the field in the late afternoon it was 
blowing about 5-7 and knowing that the PPSS guys keep a half a mile of line on 
every winch I figured I'd just reel it all off and get "real" high for starts. 
Easy win - yea. A practice launch went great - but I held back so as not to 
show my cards. After it got good and dark they started the contest. I launched 
just like I practiced and got the plane to an ungodly height. Then I got greedy 
and went for a zoom too. Bad move - the night ops were on the bottom of the 
wing and down the fuse. Instant stealth glider. Never saw the plane until after 
it hit the ground - but it made a really awesome loud whistle and WUMP as it 
impacted the earth. No survivors. Just a tad of dynamic instability I suppose.  



From: Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 8/13/2005 404 PM
To: D Hauch; soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] launch foreplay



I used to do that all the time. It's a kick. Used to
just stake the winch, walk back til I had just enough
energy to launch the model, then start weaving super
low, back and forth, to build line tension. You know
you're good when it starts getting behind you in about
5 kts wind. Hopefully you have enough room to keep
walking back.

The better you get, you can start throwing the model
with lighter and lighter tension. (And in lighter and
lighter winds) You can do all kinds of things to build
tension, then you need to learn how to lose the
tension. Circling out to the sides, or very high will
bleed off tension. Really tight circles will bleed
tension, but the big circles build all kinds of
tension on the downhill portion.
 
You can get one heck of a launch without ever stepping
on the pedal. Then go pick the chute up, and it's
still on the long side of the winch. ;-)

Before the exchange goes off on this - F3B style
winch, brake doesn't allow line out, and monofilament
line. You can do this to some degree on standard club
winches and braided nylon, but the goal there is not
to stretch the line, but to pull the line off the
drum.

D


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Re: [RCSE] launch foreplay

2005-08-13 Thread D Hauch
Cool Daryl!
Now you've given me more to work on.

I've sure kept myself intertained this past year with this f3b
stuff, I absolutly love it!
It just gave me something all new to play with.

Dave Hauch
www.git-r-built.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Daryl Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "D Hauch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] launch foreplay


> I used to do that all the time. It's a kick. Used to
> just stake the winch, walk back til I had just enough
> energy to launch the model, then start weaving super
> low, back and forth, to build line tension. You know
> you're good when it starts getting behind you in about
> 5 kts wind. Hopefully you have enough room to keep
> walking back.
>
> The better you get, you can start throwing the model
> with lighter and lighter tension. (And in lighter and
> lighter winds) You can do all kinds of things to build
> tension, then you need to learn how to lose the
> tension. Circling out to the sides, or very high will
> bleed off tension. Really tight circles will bleed
> tension, but the big circles build all kinds of
> tension on the downhill portion.
>
> You can get one heck of a launch without ever stepping
> on the pedal. Then go pick the chute up, and it's
> still on the long side of the winch. ;-)
>
> Before the exchange goes off on this - F3B style
> winch, brake doesn't allow line out, and monofilament
> line. You can do this to some degree on standard club
> winches and braided nylon, but the goal there is not
> to stretch the line, but to pull the line off the
> drum.
>
> D
>
>
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Re: [RCSE] launch foreplay

2005-08-13 Thread Daryl Perkins
I used to do that all the time. It's a kick. Used to
just stake the winch, walk back til I had just enough
energy to launch the model, then start weaving super
low, back and forth, to build line tension. You know
you're good when it starts getting behind you in about
5 kts wind. Hopefully you have enough room to keep
walking back.

The better you get, you can start throwing the model
with lighter and lighter tension. (And in lighter and
lighter winds) You can do all kinds of things to build
tension, then you need to learn how to lose the
tension. Circling out to the sides, or very high will
bleed off tension. Really tight circles will bleed
tension, but the big circles build all kinds of
tension on the downhill portion. 
  
You can get one heck of a launch without ever stepping
on the pedal. Then go pick the chute up, and it's
still on the long side of the winch. ;-)

Before the exchange goes off on this - F3B style
winch, brake doesn't allow line out, and monofilament
line. You can do this to some degree on standard club
winches and braided nylon, but the goal there is not
to stretch the line, but to pull the line off the
drum.

D


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[RCSE] One Design Contests

2005-08-13 Thread Tom Nagel



    The central ohio MOSS club used 
to do an annual Gnome contest.   Most of the members had at least one 
2 meter Gnome.  I have built three of them and still have two, including 
the infamous Flamingoid.
 
    The Gnome is still kitted I 
believe.   It is a little heavier and stronger than a GL and has a 
somewhat more advanced airfoil.   I think of the Gnome as a wood and 
monokote Duck.
 
    For some reason MOSS has stopped 
running our Gnome contests over the last few years.  I guess people got 
tired of standing in the landing circle and yelling 
"DUCK!"


[RCSE] launch foreplay

2005-08-13 Thread D Hauch
hi all,
Did something new today.
I've been dialing my X-21 to do cross wind launches, and finally
have it dialed in and no more snapping.

I had a good 15 mph head wind, so I loaded up the mono on the f3b winch
to see how I could weave it from side to side.
I loaded it up and launched it, as soon as it took off I got off the winch
pedal and never touched it again.
I started weaving from side to side like a kite and it was working
beautifully.

I remembered someone telling me about circle towing,  never heard of it
before or seen it, and wasn't going to believe it till I seen it.

So I decided to give it a try. When I was coming across in front
of me while still doing kiting, I put in full left rudder and it did
a perfect circle, I couldn't believe!
I did another, and another, opened it up a little to climb out, then dive it
back down, I was amazed and laughing out loud, hope nobody
seen me out there. :-)
If I could go left, I'll try right, then did figure eights, then saw how low
to the ground I could go then push it way up high.
Couldn't beleive I was doing this, and wondering why I've never
tried it before.
It sounded like I was DS'ing from the sound the mono cutting thru the air.

that flight last 10 minutes and my neck was killing me, so I wound it
up and stomped on the pedal to get a huge ping out of it.
Had a HUGE grin on my face the whole time, what a blast!
Couldn't beleive I was doing this, and wondering why I've never
tried it before.

Just had to tell someone. :-)

Dave Hauch
www.git-r-built.com

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Re: [RCSE] Re: Great Job guys

2005-08-13 Thread Dan Kitching

Better to be called a geek than a nerd!


Michael Conte wrote:

As soon as contests start paying $1million + for first place, I'm sure 
flying/building rc sailplanes will be considered "cool".


Mike

On Aug 12, 2005, at 7:58 AM, Dennis Hoyle wrote:

Just a curious thing why is it "geeky" for someone to fly "toy" 
planes when it's cool whack a ball

with a club into a hole? It must be the PR spin. ;-)

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA 11952
LSF II
Sec / Treasurer / Web Geek

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- Original Message -
From: Jeff Steifel
To:  Joe Wurts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Soaring@airage.com
Sent: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:52:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Great Job guys

Damn, I only thought that we were viewed that way in the US. I thought
it was much more popular (an less Geeky) abroad.


Joe Wurts wrote:

Probably the best story from the WC comes from our first full day 
there,

although not really connected with the flying aspects.

We were on the way to the practice field, and stopped to pick up 
some food
at a truck stop on the highway.  On our way out, a teenager zips up 
to us on

one of those scooter things.  He took one look at us, and asked us (in
english) "what are you guys doing here?"  Gordon, in his typical 
rapier wit,
answers "INVASION!"  The kid, not at all intimidated, continues, "no 
really,
why are you here?"  We explain to him that we are here in Finland to 
compete
at the world championships for radio controlled gliders.  He doesn't 
bat an

eye in replying, "Oh,... GEEKS!"

Joe
Team USA Geek member


- Original Message -
From: "Kiesling, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 3:23 PM
Subject: Great Job guys


Congratulations on the podium finish.
Looking forward to some great stories.

Tom

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Re: [RCSE] GL for One Design

2005-08-13 Thread Chuck Anderson
I only fly original designs so that leaves me out of One Design 
contents (unless somebody wants to have  a one design contest using 
one of my designs).  :-)


Chuck Anderson

P.S. I do buy one of the latest models every 5 years or so just to 
keep up with the trends.


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