Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!!
Is the CG different in the carbon model? Where did it end up. I'm at 92.5 mm 64 mm seems really forward. Tom - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! Following three weeks of slooow assembly, Supra #42 (carbon) was launched today. The weather at Poway was perfect with light winds, light thermals and lots of sun. No rain this year so there is no grass, just brown stubble that generates thermals from about 0900 until sunset. My Supra is a carbon model with a beautiful dark orange fuse and white and orange wings. Assembly took a little longer than I expected mainly due to my desire to put the pushrods inside thefuse and boom. The fuse is tight quarters with the ballast tube installed. Details of the pushrod installation are available from me off line. The Airtronics 94761Z digital servos are a perfect fit in the wing and fuse. I used the supplied hardware to connect servos to flight controls and covered the servos with the supplied covers. Thanks to Barry Kennedy and Larry Jolly for providing me with pictures and suggestions about making the installation and setup. 'ole #42 was almost perfectly trimmed and flew nearly the length of the field with the first hand launch. The first winch launch was equally nice with a steep climb without the application of a launch mode. I used the 5? degree tip joiners for increased stability during launch and thermalling at long range with my ancient eyes. All up weight was 68 ounces including 3.5 ounces of nose lead and the CG was set at 64 mm. After the joy of the first successful launch waned, I noticed that Supra was still at about winch height although not encountering any thermals. A quick trip around the field, down in the valley and way upwind did not produce a thermal encounter, but did produce a 5+ minute flight. The model has great L/D and good speed range. It will go fast and it will slow down for min sink or thermaling. A quick dive test and inverted flight showed a nose heavy condition so .5 ounces were removed for the next flight. Again the dive test and inverted still showed a nose heavy condition so another .5 ounces were removed. Now it was right for my style of flying. It will pull out of a dive test in 4-500 feet and flies inverted with little elevator. A few adjustments were needed for the elevator compensation in landing mode, but it isn't quite there yet. However landings are easily controlled as the model will slow to a walk even without a head wind. The large rudder provides good control for those last minute "jinks" for the tape. The Supra is a well designed, beautifully constructed thermal duration model. It is very stable on launch and in flight with no bad habits that I could see on these first flights. Judging from the winch launch results, the carbon wing should be strong enough for F3J (I will test it this weekend in Phoenix). Thanks again to Airtronics, Barry Kennedy and Larry Jolly for their help with this project. Contact me directly with question regarding assembly or setup. See you in Phoenix. Don RichmondSan Diego, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.hilaunch.com
[RCSE] Old Graupner Sailplane Part?
Likely you guys will have to fabricate new pieces from Alum or plastic. Gordy
Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!!
I'm at 108 with #31. Maurice - Original Message - From: Tom Broeski To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:27 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! Is the CG different in the carbon model? Where did it end up. I'm at 92.5 mm 64 mm seems really forward. Tom - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! Following three weeks of slooow assembly, Supra #42 (carbon) was launched today. The weather at Poway was perfect with light winds, light thermals and lots of sun. No rain this year so there is no grass, just brown stubble that generates thermals from about 0900 until sunset. My Supra is a carbon model with a beautiful dark orange fuse and white and orange wings. Assembly took a little longer than I expected mainly due to my desire to put the pushrods inside the fuse and boom. The fuse is tight quarters with the ballast tube installed. Details of the pushrod installation are available from me off line. The Airtronics 94761Z digital servos are a perfect fit in the wing and fuse. I used the supplied hardware to connect servos to flight controls and covered the servos with the supplied covers. Thanks to Barry Kennedy and Larry Jolly for providing me with pictures and suggestions about making the installation and setup. 'ole #42 was almost perfectly trimmed and flew nearly the length of the field with the first hand launch. The first winch launch was equally nice with a steep climb without the application of a launch mode. I used the 5? degree tip joiners for increased stability during launch and thermalling at long range with my ancient eyes. All up weight was 68 ounces including 3.5 ounces of nose lead and the CG was set at 64 mm. After the joy of the first successful launch waned, I noticed that Supra was still at about winch height although not encountering any thermals. A quick trip around the field, down in the valley and way upwind did not produce a thermal encounter, but did produce a 5+ minute flight. The model has great L/D and good speed range. It will go fast and it will slow down for min sink or thermaling. A quick dive test and inverted flight showed a nose heavy condition so .5 ounces were removed for the next flight. Again the dive test and inverted still showed a nose heavy condition so another .5 ounces were removed. Now it was right for my style of flying. It will pull out of a dive test in 4-500 feet and flies inverted with little elevator. A few adjustments were needed for the elevator compensation in landing mode, but it isn't quite there yet. However landings are easily controlled as the model will slow to a walk even without a head wind. The large rudder provides good control for those last minute jinks for the tape. The Supra is a well designed, beautifully constructed thermal duration model. It is very stable on launch and in flight with no bad habits that I could see on these first flights. Judging from the winch launch results, the carbon wing should be strong enough for F3J (I will test it this weekend in Phoenix). Thanks again to Airtronics, Barry Kennedy and Larry Jolly for their help with this project. Contact me directly with question regarding assembly or setup. See you in Phoenix. Don Richmond San Diego, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hilaunch.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! But has it's six been flipped upside down?...Supra-natural?
Is the CG different in the carbon model? Where did it end up. I'm at 92.5 mm 64 mm seems really forward. Tom Hi Tom, A lot of guys don't realize that Don's has 'invert-lexia'...a rare condition where his 9's end up flipped upside down when posting about Supra balance points. And speaking of rare conditionsthe Supra balance point has been a topic since the day it first hit our skies. It has a 10.5" root yet guys seem to be finding that the balance point is only about 37% of root chord, completely different than our usual 45% or 48% that we have seen on virtually all other popular contest soaring ships. Since it is a topic of interest to me, I asked the Dr D himself (and others who know a few things about balancing and flying contest ships) and found that the difference is due to the Supra being..different. Not only is it different looking but its wing plan form does not have the sweep of other popular ships today So the balance point is more forward. While there are likely really good scientific reasons for the balance point to be set some where for most of us flying, the real reason to have weight more toward the nose than the tail is so that our sailplanes 'fall' forward. If we balance them so that they fall backwards, we have a problem, since most of us seldom practice controlling model sailplanes that direction. :-) Course one dot more nose weight that is needed to make them fall forward, then they will fall forward and nose down...which gets us in to that ugly situation of needing airspeed sensitive elevator up trim settings. The Supra is extra fun because even with so few flying, we have guys interested infinding their Supra's balancein the air instead of with a ruler. Somefeel that the Supra is just the 'flavor' of the month, but in fact it isn't even ice cream. Tip to tip, nose to tail, its different. Winner or loser it is causing some of the most fun we've had about a new sailplane since the AVA. Thanks Dr D, Barry,Vladimir, and of course Tom Kiesling :-) It's 'magic' evolution will make a fun article :-)Gordy
Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies lead
Then I'd better get the lead out. Doc Drella... what do you think? T - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom Broeski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! I'm at 108 with #31. Maurice - Original Message - From: Tom Broeski To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:27 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! Is the CG different in the carbon model? Where did it end up. I'm at 92.5 mm 64 mm seems really forward. Tom - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! Following three weeks of slooow assembly, Supra #42 (carbon) was launched today. The weather at Poway was perfect with light winds, light thermals and lots of sun. No rain this year so there is no grass, just brown stubble that generates thermals from about 0900 until sunset. My Supra is a carbon model with a beautiful dark orange fuse and white and orange wings. Assembly took a little longer than I expected mainly due to my desire to put the pushrods inside the fuse and boom. The fuse is tight quarters with the ballast tube installed. Details of the pushrod installation are available from me off line. The Airtronics 94761Z digital servos are a perfect fit in the wing and fuse. I used the supplied hardware to connect servos to flight controls and covered the servos with the supplied covers. Thanks to Barry Kennedy and Larry Jolly for providing me with pictures and suggestions about making the installation and setup. 'ole #42 was almost perfectly trimmed and flew nearly the length of the field with the first hand launch. The first winch launch was equally nice with a steep climb without the application of a launch mode. I used the 5? degree tip joiners for increased stability during launch and thermalling at long range with my ancient eyes. All up weight was 68 ounces including 3.5 ounces of nose lead and the CG was set at 64 mm. After the joy of the first successful launch waned, I noticed that Supra was still at about winch height although not encountering any thermals. A quick trip around the field, down in the valley and way upwind did not produce a thermal encounter, but did produce a 5+ minute flight. The model has great L/D and good speed range. It will go fast and it will slow down for min sink or thermaling. A quick dive test and inverted flight showed a nose heavy condition so .5 ounces were removed for the next flight. Again the dive test and inverted still showed a nose heavy condition so another .5 ounces were removed. Now it was right for my style of flying. It will pull out of a dive test in 4-500 feet and flies inverted with little elevator. A few adjustments were needed for the elevator compensation in landing mode, but it isn't quite there yet. However landings are easily controlled as the model will slow to a walk even without a head wind. The large rudder provides good control for those last minute jinks for the tape. The Supra is a well designed, beautifully constructed thermal duration model. It is very stable on launch and in flight with no bad habits that I could see on these first flights. Judging from the winch launch results, the carbon wing should be strong enough for F3J (I will test it this weekend in Phoenix). Thanks again to Airtronics, Barry Kennedy and Larry Jolly for their help with this project. Contact me directly with question regarding assembly or setup. See you in Phoenix. Don Richmond San Diego, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hilaunch.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! But has it's six been flipped upside down?...Supra-natural?
Some feel that the Supra is just the 'flavor' of the month, but in fact it isn't even ice cream. Tip to tip, nose to tail, its different. Seems to me that there should be a new Supra Class. Based on everything I've read about this plane it just is not fair for it to compete against the current stock of obsolete designs. I mean, what chance does an Icon or Sharon stand against this new design?? Very demoralizing to have to suffer simply because you did not get on the band wagon fast enough. This could be the end of thermal duration competition as we know it!! WEM RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Triple Tow
I would almost be up for that !! Slight S turns into the wind would work best quick get Gordy !!! LOL CJ --Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- From: "James V. Bacus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yep, I knew Dr. Dan was kidding, and he will end up being the one trying to coax me into doing it... ;-)At 08:12 AM 2/5/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because the "Dangrous" statment was very tounge in cheek comming from someone that likes to areo tow invertedlol JimDowners Grove, ILMember of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! - with upside down CG!
In a message dated 2/6/06 3:28:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is the CG different in the carbon model? Maybe Where did it end up. I'm at 92.5 mm 64 mm seems really forward. Good call. The real number is 92 at the start and now 93 after removing some lead. Can I blame the bifocals?? Don RichmondSan Diego, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.hilaunch.com
[RCSE] Steve Betts
Steve, Please ping me off line, your email box is bouncing. Doug Barry Richmond VA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] graphics / sticker help...
Title: graphics / sticker help... I've seen some pretty interesting stickers on ships over the last couple years, Evil Inside comes to mind - wondered if anyone had a favorite source for these. Nostalgia / cartoon themes would be especially helpful. Thanks, Brent
Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! But has it's six been flipped upside down?...Supra-natural?
Well this weeks SWC will be one of the molded Supras first test, lets wait and see. Walter - Original Message - From: Bill's Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! But has it's six been flipped upside down?...Supra-natural? Some feel that the Supra is just the 'flavor' of the month, but in fact it isn't even ice cream. Tip to tip, nose to tail, its different. Seems to me that there should be a new Supra Class. Based on everything I've read about this plane it just is not fair for it to compete against the current stock of obsolete designs. I mean, what chance does an Icon or Sharon stand against this new design?? Very demoralizing to have to suffer simply because you did not get on the band wagon fast enough. This could be the end of thermal duration competition as we know it!! WEM RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Cliff Lindgren
I keep getting this crap back about mail frontier from Mr. OSOHIGH everytime I post anything. Im sick of it. No Cliff, I dont give a #$%@ if you ever receive any email from me nor I from you, guess I will just have to block it out. What a nuscience. Walter
[RCSE] Darrel Zaballos
Hey Darrel ... Ping me when you get a chance ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... 916-752-3831. Mark Triebes RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] graphics / sticker help...
We were using a vinyl cutter for the Evil Inside graphic, but I have been known to sport some crazy green alien gals drawn by the artist Coop on my wings... here's the source. http://www.stickergiant.com/ At 10:15 AM 2/6/2006, Douglas, Brent wrote: I've seen some pretty interesting stickers on ships over the last couple years, Evil Inside comes to mind - wondered if anyone had a favorite source for these. Nostalgia / cartoon themes would be especially helpful. Thanks, Brent Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
[RCSE] 4 sale
Image 4 sale white with blue and green tips blue bottoms 5 cell pack hitec 85mg and 81mg servos add receiver and fly flown well some cosmetic damage flies great! launches hard (for a 2mtr) $500.00 will bring to az thanks Mark RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 4 sale
About time you get ridda that thing!!! Death to all 2-meters!!! (followed by evil laugh) Mark Triebes Elk Grove, CA -- Original message -- From: mark browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Image 4 sale white with blue and green tips blue bottoms 5 cell pack hitec 85mg and 81mg servos add receiver and fly flown well some cosmetic damage flies great! launches hard (for a 2mtr) $500.00 will bring to az thanks Mark RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 4 sale
OMG! first of all I don't even have the Icon that I ordered a year ago. Now they don't even talk about those anymore. It's all about .. Supra this and Supra that.. Bla Bla Bla... Whatever... Now your telling me that I should get rid of my new to me Image 2M as well??? This was going to be my first Year Doing Open 2M at each event! You all need to slow down. I am having trouble keeping up. JK... hope to see some of you @ the SWC John D. Frugé Webmaster MRCC www.modestorcclub.com AMA #695632 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mark browning [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] 4 sale About time you get ridda that thing!!! Death to all 2-meters!!! (followed by evil laugh) Mark Triebes Elk Grove, CA -- Original message -- From: mark browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Image 4 sale white with blue and green tips blue bottoms 5 cell pack hitec 85mg and 81mg servos add receiver and fly flown well some cosmetic damage flies great! launches hard (for a 2mtr) $500.00 will bring to az thanks Mark RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/252 - Release Date: 2/6/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 4 sale
If I were to buy any 2m right now it would be the Image, that is a fun model to fly. I really like mine, it's the first 2m that fits my flying style. As far as the ICON goes, I have two Lites that are proven contest machines and a new TD one that is almost already built. Don't worry, they will still fly and contest very strongly. People aren't talking about them because they aren't new, but I don't see many used ones up for sale either. And I have the new Supra as well, it is almost already built and I am looking forward to learning to fly it and contesting. Nothing wrong with having a quiver of American designed planes to choose from. ;-) P.S. I am also looking forward to trying my flying bud TK's new Insanity, another American design. It's all good! At 02:46 PM 2/6/2006, John D Frugé wrote: OMG! first of all I don't even have the Icon that I ordered a year ago. Now they don't even talk about those anymore. It's all about .. Supra this and Supra that.. Bla Bla Bla... Whatever... Now your telling me that I should get rid of my new to me Image 2M as well??? This was going to be my first Year Doing Open 2M at each event! You all need to slow down. I am having trouble keeping up. JK... hope to see some of you @ the SWC John D. Frugé Webmaster MRCC www.modestorcclub.com AMA #695632 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mark browning [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] 4 sale About time you get ridda that thing!!! Death to all 2-meters!!! (followed by evil laugh) Mark Triebes Elk Grove, CA -- Original message -- From: mark browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Image 4 sale white with blue and green tips blue bottoms 5 cell pack hitec 85mg and 81mg servos add receiver and fly flown well some cosmetic damage flies great! launches hard (for a 2mtr) $500.00 will bring to az thanks Mark RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/252 - Release Date: 2/6/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Isthmus Models News
Folks, I wanted to give you all an update on our adoption. We were supposed to leave today but were called on Friday and told to postpone until more news arrived today. After talking to our agency they said that our appointment for this Thursday has been changed to March due to rescheduling at the National Adoption Center in Ukraine. Because of the birth of our domestic adoption child in early April the March date will not work for us. The earliest we can possibly travel is November if at all. As you can imagine this is devastating news for my wife and me. We will continue to look forward to the birth of our daughter in Florida. So...Isthmus Models is back open. Mark Miller __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 flies!! But has it's six been flipped upside down?...Supra-natural?
Marta Zavala wrote: Well this weeks SWC will be one of the molded Supras first test, lets wait and see. Walter Well, based on the reports to date is there any reason to even show up?? I guess it will be fun to see which Supra takes it all. #42 or #41 or might it be #17?? Can't wait!! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 4 sale
A little birdy told me that a particular Supra wing weighed in @ 34.25oz. Now if you took an Icon wing that was also weighed, and came in @ 33.25oz, who has the advantage?? It will be a while before any particular airframe catches up to the Icon... James V. Bacus wrote: If I were to buy any 2m right now it would be the Image, that is a fun model to fly. I really like mine, it's the first 2m that fits my flying style. As far as the ICON goes, I have two Lites that are proven contest machines and a new TD one that is almost already built. Don't worry, they will still fly and contest very strongly. People aren't talking about them because they aren't new, but I don't see many used ones up for sale either. And I have the new Supra as well, it is almost already built and I am looking forward to learning to fly it and contesting. Nothing wrong with having a quiver of American designed planes to choose from. ;-) P.S. I am also looking forward to trying my flying bud TK's new Insanity, another American design. It's all good! At 02:46 PM 2/6/2006, John D Frugé wrote: OMG! first of all I don't even have the Icon that I ordered a year ago. Now they don't even talk about those anymore. It's all about .. Supra this and Supra that.. Bla Bla Bla... Whatever... Now your telling me that I should get rid of my new to me Image 2M as well??? This was going to be my first Year Doing Open 2M at each event! You all need to slow down. I am having trouble keeping up. JK... hope to see some of you @ the SWC John D. Frugé Webmaster MRCC www.modestorcclub.com AMA #695632 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mark browning [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] 4 sale About time you get ridda that thing!!! Death to all 2-meters!!! (followed by evil laugh) Mark Triebes Elk Grove, CA -- Original message -- From: mark browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Image 4 sale white with blue and green tips blue bottoms 5 cell pack hitec 85mg and 81mg servos add receiver and fly flown well some cosmetic damage flies great! launches hard (for a 2mtr) $500.00 will bring to az thanks Mark RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/252 - Release Date: 2/6/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- Simon Van Leeuwen RADIUS SYSTEMS PnP SYSTEMS - The E-Harness of Choice Cogito Ergo Zooom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Emerald fuse
I'm looking for an Emerald fuse. Even one with some slight to moderate damage is OK! Contact me off-line Regards Tony Colorado RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Karlton Vows, Complete Domination!!!!
(Easier to read if you open the whole window)Hi guys, Stumbled across this onweb, glad to hear the K'man is working! and enthusiastically too :-) Gordy Seasoned R/C Veteran Karlton Spindle joins Nomadio’s Sales TeamSpindle will be responsible for Non-Military SalesPhiladelphia, PA—October 20, 2005 — Nomadio (www.nomadio.net) announced today that it has hired KarltonSpindle as Director of Sales. Mr. Spindle has a long history with the R/C market both in surface and air modelsand is well known in the industry for importing the technologically advanced “Multiplex” line of R/C radios from1996 to 2003. Mr. Spindle also has extensive R/C racing experience and was the founder and owner of one ofSouthern California’s leading R/C tracks, KZ Speedway.Alex Gizis, Nomadio’s CEO said “We are extremely pleased to have Karlton join the Nomadio team. Hisbackground and experience are a perfect match for the job at hand – bringing the Nomadio R/C technology toall segments of the market. Karlton’s track record with Multiplex speaks for itself and we are confident that hisaddition to our management team will help us continue to drive the R/C market with new and improvedtechnology.”Karlton Spindle said “Since they appeared on the scene in 2004, I have enjoyed watching the industry respondto the many new ideas and technologies presented by the Nomadio team. Nomadio has clearly understood theproblems of the R/C hobby and has adapted its military technology to eliminate those problems. I’m excited tobe able to join the team and help revitalize the R/C hobby. We have a simple and clear goal – completedomination of the R/C radio market within two years. “
Re: [RCSE] Karlton Vows, Complete Domination!!!!
Thank you very much for sharing this, Gordy! Check it out guys. This platform is VERY impressive in it's capabilities. But so far only for surface use... They claim to be working on aircraft equipment. Good goin' Karlton. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Supra Insanity at the SWC... and giving....
Hi Guys, I spoke to Barry the other day... he said something about having shipped over 60 Supras so far... so if 67 have been shipped... I'm assuming the best I'll be able to pull off is 68th place... but I'll be there... and I'll keep swingin'.. if I can knock just one off... I'll be happy... Ok...ok I want you guys to know what a giver I am... I actually went to the hobby store... bought some wood to make a down and dirty mold to mold some lead ballast for my Insanity at Phx... just so it won't blow for you guys... if I have ballast... it won't blow... you guys owe me... and since Supras penetrate 100 kt wind at 28 ounces with little to no loss in altitude... and go up on gerbel farts when balanced at 92.5 cm I LOVE having a target... ;-) My Insanity and I will be in Phoenix... bring your singles... In the immortal words of Al Bundy... Let's Rock. D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] mounting servo's in bagged wings
have some pics to share with you guys. http://www.git-r-built.com/newsmgr/templates/grbNews.asp?articleid=30zoneid=1 Dave Hauchwww.git-r-built.com
[RCSE] International Hand Launch Glider Festival (IHLGF) 2006
Hand Launch Glider Enthusiasts Worldwide, please take note; Contest: 14th Annual International Hand Launch Glider Festival (IHLGF 2006) Hosts: Torrey Pines Gulls Date: June 3-4, 2006 Location: TPG Poway Flight Center, Poway (San Diego), California, USA. Our Goal: To produce a World-Class HLG/DLG contest worthy of World Championship Status; to provide an atmosphere where the best pilots may challenge each other for the coveted title of Champion and every participant has a great time. Our Hope: That you will join us. Watch for more announcements soon. For more information, contact Ron Scharck, Committee Chairman IHLGF 2006 9005 Hidden Valley Rd., Ste. 200 Carlsbad, CA 92011 Direct: 619-913-4949 Fax: 760-634-0620 [EMAIL PROTECTED] attachment: winmail.dat
Re: [RCSE] Karlton Vows, Complete Domination!!!!
Interesting, I wonder if the R/C car guys that compete will have a problem with all the new telemetry this radio offers? 8-) Glad to hear the K'man is still rockin' At 05:32 PM 2/6/2006, you wrote: (Easier to read if you open the whole window) Hi guys, Stumbled across this on web, glad to hear the K'man is working! and enthusiastically too :-) Gordy Seasoned R/C Veteran Karlton Spindle joins Nomadioâs Sales Team Spindle will be responsible for Non-Military Sales Philadelphia, PAâOctober 20, 2005 â Nomadio (www.nomadio.net) announced today that it has hired Karlton Spindle as Director of Sales. Mr. Spindle has a long history with the R/C market both in surface and air models and is well known in the industry for importing the technologically advanced âMultiplexâ line of R/C radios from 1996 to 2003. Mr. Spindle also has extensive R/C racing experience and was the founder and owner of one of Southern Californiaâs leading R/C tracks, KZ Speedway. Alex Gizis, Nomadioâs CEO said âWe are extremely pleased to have Karlton join the Nomadio team. His background and experience are a perfect match for the job at hand â bringing the Nomadio R/C technology to all segments of the market. Karltonâs track record with Multiplex speaks for itself and we are confident that his addition to our management team will help us continue to drive the R/C market with new and improved technology.â Karlton Spindle said âSince they appeared on the scene in 2004, I have enjoyed watching the industry respond to the many new ideas and technologies presented by the Nomadio team. Nomadio has clearly understood the problems of the R/C hobby and has adapted its military technology to eliminate those problems. Iâm excited to be able to join the team and help revitalize the R/C hobby. We have a simple and clear goal â complete domination of the R/C radio market within two years. â Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
[RCSE] Re: Broken Graupner plastic part
This may not help, but there is a kit of plastic sailplane control parts sold by Hobby-Lobby. Most of the parts are things like belcranks for full-flying stabs, but mayhap there is something in there that can be adapted. Since they import graupner models, you might also want to call them and ask if they can special order a couple of these specific parts for you. Failing that, You could probably make a working replacement from glass cloth and carbon fiber and some epoxy. Another way to go is glue the snapped part back together with CA and then make a mold of it using one of those resin casting kits in the craft store. Then you could pull extras and maybe make back the cost of the molding kit replacing a few for friends that also broke this part:-)
[RCSE] Re: Karlton Spindle
Karlton Spindle... Where have I heard that name before? Oh yes! Royal Multiplex! I bought a 'new' Multiplex vario w/ Hoopes TE probe from them; it was over a month and a half before I received it, every time I called about it Karlton was at a race no-one knew anything about it, and when I finally received it, the manual, receiver crystal and ear phone were missing. (No frequency marked on the TX crystal, so no clue as to the frequency. No help from Multiplex, either, since it had been discontinued.) After Royal crashed burned, and after using every method to track down the Spindles for another several months, his wife finally managed to send the manual. I finally sold it for half what I paid, to a fellow modeler who took the chance that he could find the correct receiver crystal. Most RC sellers distributors give very good service, but my experience with Royal was awful. I hear I wasn't alone. :-( Jeff RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC on Google Earth
I was just checking out the flying site at Schnepf Farms for the Southwest Classic. Looks like the Schnepf people have done some creative mowing. Check out their crops from about 4,000 ft... JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Supra Insanity at the SWC... and giving....
So you must have reserved #69 for yourself ?!? (hmm, you all get your mind out of the gutters) ;-) At 06:27 PM 2/6/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote: Hi Guys, I spoke to Barry the other day... he said something about having shipped over 60 Supras so far... so if 67 have been shipped... I'm assuming the best I'll be able to pull off is 68th place... but I'll be there... and I'll keep swingin'.. if I can knock just one off... I'll be happy... Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Fuse Wanted for 3-meter project
Hey Guys . . . Weird request here . . . I'm looking for a fuse for a 3 meter, 3 piece wing . . . needs to be F3B/F3F strength and in decent condition . . . cosmetics aren't real important, but it does need to be structurally sound and straight . . . could be x or v tail . . . I need to test a new wing quickly and don't have time to do a new fuse or modify one of my 2-piece wing fuses. Anything out there might work, something new like a Pike or Stratos, or even something old, like a V-ultra or the like. Can send details and/or photos direct to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. Mark Triebes Elk Grove, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re:Re: [RCSE] Re: Karlton Spindle
Wow! Karlton ! What a fun guy! We had good times together selling Multiplex, flying. Thought he'd fell off the end of the earth or something.. God bless him! I saw the K man at the AMA show few years back selling used R/C Stuff.. Felt real bad for him... He was a Good Person. Glad to see he landed on his feet Go Karlton! Al - Original Message - From: Jeff Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 5:30 PM Subject: [RCSE] Re: Karlton Spindle Karlton Spindle... Where have I heard that name before? Oh yes! Royal Multiplex! I bought a 'new' Multiplex vario w/ Hoopes TE probe from them; it was over a month and a half before I received it, every time I called about it Karlton was at a race no-one knew anything about it, and when I finally received it, the manual, receiver crystal and ear phone were missing. (No frequency marked on the TX crystal, so no clue as to the frequency. No help from Multiplex, either, since it had been discontinued.) After Royal crashed burned, and after using every method to track down the Spindles for another several months, his wife finally managed to send the manual. I finally sold it for half what I paid, to a fellow modeler who took the chance that he could find the correct receiver crystal. Most RC sellers distributors give very good service, but my experience with Royal was awful. I hear I wasn't alone. :-( Jeff RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] GENIE RDS SHAFTS AND POCKETS AVAILABILITY.
Walt Dimick is the sole source of separately available accessories for the RDS. For those ordering packages from me for the big Genie, the Genie Pro or the LT/S, shafts and pockets as I make them for myself are available. Please go to the What's Available? file at http://genie.rchomepage.com/ for details. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC on Google Earth
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 05:34:33PM -0800, John Erickson wrote: | I was just checking out the flying site at Schnepf Farms for the Southwest | Classic. Looks like the Schnepf people have done some creative mowing. | Check out their crops from about 4,000 ft... Cute. To save somebody the trouble of finding it, just hit this URL -- http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=+22601+East+Cloud+Road++Queen+Creek,+Arizona+85242ll=33.225679,-111.595801spn=0.005735,0.01222t=k Looks like a nice place to fly ... -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blessed are they that run around in circles, for they shall be known as wheels. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC on Google Earth
That was from 2004 in October during their Holloween themed festival. The 2005 corn maze was Jay Leno. The google earth stuff is not real current. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ - Original Message - From: Doug McLaren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring List Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] SWC on Google Earth On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 05:34:33PM -0800, John Erickson wrote: | I was just checking out the flying site at Schnepf Farms for the Southwest | Classic. Looks like the Schnepf people have done some creative mowing. | Check out their crops from about 4,000 ft... Cute. To save somebody the trouble of finding it, just hit this URL -- http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=+22601+East+Cloud+Road++Queen+Creek,+Arizona+85242ll=33.225679,-111.595801spn=0.005735,0.01222t=k Looks like a nice place to fly ... -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blessed are they that run around in circles, for they shall be known as wheels. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Fw: What's Available file
For some time, a copy of posts sent to the exchange don't appear in my Inbox. Did anyone get the one in the Subject line? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Supra pictures
In response to numerous questions, I have posted a few pictures of #42 on my web site www.hilaunch.com under photos. Don RichmondSan Diego, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.hilaunch.com
[RCSE] Kits For Sale
Hi, I am posting this for a friend. Please contact him if you are interested in any of these. Thanks, Joe. His e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Airtronics: Aquila 99, pristine in box plus glass fuselage Eclipse, 78 electric, complete with motor and prop Durable Aircraft Models EPP P-51 Mustang, PSS KA Models P-38 PSS, 50 span, fiberglass fuse and booms, foam wings with balsa sheeting PG Gerais (Czech Rep) Fox, aerobatic sailplane, 2 meter span, glass fuse, wings completed with covering Dodgson Saber 121 span, glass fuse, foam wings, spar partly assembled, three boxes Edmonds Algebra (England) 2.5 meter red gelcoat glass fuse, some balsa has brown stains BAE Hawk 50 PSS, P.J. Models English kit, fuse, wings and tail foam with veneer already applied DH Vampire 51 span PSS, foam wings already veneered, glass fuse pod K8b 1/4 scale pristine Flair kit (England) Oly llb, 1/4 scale thermal soarer, Charlesworth plans and canopy I also have those Mark Grand glass fuselages, one looks like a mini Phase 6 and the other is for a rotating wing small thermal ship. I have foam cores already cut for them. == Joe Nave NetMeister, Inc. InterNetwork Design Integration 4224 Waialae Avenue #155 Honolulu, HI 96816-5330 Phone: 808.394.NETS (6387) == What do you want to network today? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] mounting servo's in bagged wings
Nice job Dave, thats very similar how Im mounting wing servos in the Insanity wing. One ? Is that a "no trash" euro type sign on that 125 high tech wing servo? Ill say no more! Walter - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:44 PM Subject: [RCSE] mounting servo's in bagged wings have some pics to share with you guys. http://www.git-r-built.com/newsmgr/templates/grbNews.asp?articleid=30zoneid=1 Dave Hauchwww.git-r-built.com
Re: [RCSE] SWC on Google Earth
What? Crop circles at the SWC - must be the ailiens spying on the Supra. They feel like theyre falling behind! Walter - Orginal Message - From: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring List Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 5:34 PM Subject: [RCSE] SWC on Google Earth I was just checking out the flying site at Schnepf Farms for the Southwest Classic. Looks like the Schnepf people have done some creative mowing. Check out their crops from about 4,000 ft... JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
