[RCSE] Great Guy Alert !!
Hi Folks, For the past couple of months, Jochen Luetke [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I have been playing e-mail tag. Jochen , operates HKM Model out of Arlington Texas. The website is http://www.hkm-models.com/. At any rate, I Have been looking for a better gear for my Ventus 2AX... Jochen, sent me a New, but previously installed FEMA gear, to try out! I will be able to use this thing with some modifications to my airframe. The point is, because of our work schedules, and my previous working location(s), This operation has been on going for a couple of months. I appreciate the extra effort, put forth by HKM, and thought that I should share my excitement with the forum. BTW, I also hear that he has a new ASW 28 coming soon !!! Thanks CJ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] F3B (team)
That's up to you to choose how to fly and how much input your team provides. Yes, we all use input from our team members, but we're still the pilot in command of the aircraft and have the ultimate decision on what to do. Most TD pilots always have a team. Ever notice how many guys always have the same timers/callers. That's because you've worked together and know what the other guy wants and needs. Nothing is more distracting than having your timer argue with you that you should be counting down on landing approach if you happened to like actual flight times. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have to disagree with all you f3b guys about doing it as a team. i fully understand and agree that you will probably place higher with a good team. and if your trying to get on the USA team, its essential. so you don't have to tell me all the advantages, I KNOW! but there's one thing i can't stand, is someone else telling me which way to turn, or how to fly my airplane. I'll live and die by my own decisions, thats what makes the challenge for me, and keeps me going back to the field. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] F3B (team)
Yeap, that make good sense Mike, and i agree. I guess maybe my point is, f3b seems to give the feeling you need lots of people, spend a ton on equipment and you need specialty planes, which you're going to end up breaking. At least that's what i always perceived. And thats not true, i fly it by myself all the time, and may never compete. there is so much there to challenge me and thats what i love about. It's the perfect task for me or a pilot to fly by yourself. really didn't spend that much for the equiptment, which will last me forever, and used the same plane all year, and it still looks like new. plus i never have to dork in a landing to get good. :-) dh That's up to you to choose how to fly and how much input your team provides. Yes, we all use input from our team members, but we're still the pilot in command of the aircraft and have the ultimate decision on what to do. Most TD pilots always have a team. Ever notice how many guys always have the same timers/callers. That's because you've worked together and know what the other guy wants and needs. Nothing is more distracting than having your timer argue with you that you should be counting down on landing approach if you happened to like actual flight times. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have to disagree with all you f3b guys about doing it as a team. i fully understand and agree that you will probably place higher with a good team. and if your trying to get on the USA team, its essential. so you don't have to tell me all the advantages, I KNOW! but there's one thing i can't stand, is someone else telling me which way to turn, or how to fly my airplane. I'll live and die by my own decisions, thats what makes the challenge for me, and keeps me going back to the field. Dave Hauch www.git-r-built.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] F3B (team)
Most TD pilots always have a team. This is so true and it is vital to understanding our sport. The first thing to know is that when you make your time, especially in difficult air, it is 100% the PILOT. Anytime you miss your time, or even a landing, it is undoubtedly the fault of your timer. Perfect case in point. At the Fresno Classic I timed for Daryl Perkins the last two rounds. The air was rotten to say the least. Daryl of course easily made his time while others were losing altitude on launch. BUT, he got his 2 worst landings while I was timing for him. A 10 and a ZERO!! Now there is no way this could have been his fault, and as his timer I took full responsibility. Like a good timer should. So you see, it really is all about team work!! WEM RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] F3B (team)
I have to both agree and disagree with David on this. To FLY f3b and learn more, push your skills and have lots of fun does not require much in terms of equipment or people and really not any more money than a good effort in f3j or USA TD. The key comes in if you want to compete at a world class level and win. F3B is RACING! The speed task is real racing where you are either pushing the limits and on the edge or you are not in the competition. Distance, now that there is no limit is like class racing. Not so on the edge but still pushing hard and working the equipment and air to, or near the limits. Duration keeps the planes and pilots honest by making them thermal and stay up. This keeps the planes and pilots more skilled in various ways that make a more rounded package. Anybody here watch a NASCAR race? The driver is at the wheel when the car crosses the line but it is the Owner, Driver, Crew Chief, Pit Crew, Mechanics, Builders, Sponsers and others who work to get him there. A failure anywhere in the team will result in a poor finish if the car even gets into the race in the first place. Of course the money isn't in RC to support this kind of effort so it doesn't happen unless someone does it out of pocket. Anybody know any pilots who might like to join a team where the team provides the winches, planes, radios, sighting and timing equipment and mechanics and helpers and all the pilot has to do is FLY? Imagine being able to drop over to the field after work and practice for an hour with top equipment and full sighting/timing on all flights and no time wasted on setup and teardown? How about having planes and radios so that even if you destroy your primary model the night before a contest you still go into the contest with a full quiver of new, perfectly trimmed, top notch planes. Think of flying a contest where your team is as smooth and skilled as a NASCAR pit crew. Oh well, gotta dream sometimes. :) Ever notice how much faster you learn something if you do it once a week vice once a month? How about twice a week? This is better split up as weekend and mid week than both on the weekend. Even the pilots who fly F3B are rarely flying it more than a few times a year (in the USA), what if they could fly fully measured and timed tasks 10 or 100 times as often? michael On 5/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess maybe my point is, f3b seems to give the feeling you need lots of people, spend a ton on equipment and you need specialty planes, which you're going to end up breaking. At least that's what i always perceived. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Sharon 3.7 center section??
I amin need ofa center section for a 3.7 Sharon ? ?Anyone have one???Lee in NevadaLeeCox-Nevada, U.S.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.
[RCSE] Great Guy Alert !! Yes I am!
Thanks Jack, It was nice of you to say all those good things about, I seldom get the great guy credit I deserve. Today for instance, Mike Fox could have been a great guy, but instead he chose to get 14 more landing points than me here in Iowa, but no, it was up to me to be the "Great Guy"..allowing him some time in the spot light. I flew my Pike Giant, he started with his Supra, but had a weird anomaly with one of the new Airtronic digitals...the rudder servo locked up on launch or just shut down...apparently it has happened before and while he checked all connections, it happened again...the weird thing is on both occasions, when he landed it, it started working again...but it wasn't worth taking a chance, and Terry Edmond (CD) gave him permission to pull out his Sharon(personally I think he knew that he was going to need that 147" of amazing aircraft to vanquish my quest for ultimate dominance) You really missed a sweet day of very challenging soaringbut again thanks for the kudos! Gordy only 1,000miles to drive by tomorrow at 10am.
[RCSE] Did I mention that I pity the fool doesn't have a Sharon?
First place was Mike Fox Sharon Second Me Volz Power Pike Giant Third another Sharon Gusty winds, and spread out thermals you had to work way out almost to beyond eyesight...and the Sharons ruled again. They are some very gracefull ships that are normally excell in light air, but they seemed to do just fine this weekend :-)...and at the Nats and even okay in the hands of DP :) Gordy
Re: [RCSE] F3B (team)
- F3B is RACING!- F3B isnt racing. Real racing is the Unlimited MOM like the ISR event at Davenport in two weeks. Flying head to head in 30MPH winds at 11lbs, thats real racing! Walter - Original Message - From: Michael Neverdosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] F3B (team) I have to both agree and disagree with David on this. To FLY f3b and learn more, push your skills and have lots of fun does not require much in terms of equipment or people and really not any more money than a good effort in f3j or USA TD. The key comes in if you want to compete at a world class level and win. F3B is RACING! The speed task is real racing where you are either pushing the limits and on the edge or you are not in the competition. Distance, now that there is no limit is like class racing. Not so on the edge but still pushing hard and working the equipment and air to, or near the limits. Duration keeps the planes and pilots honest by making them thermal and stay up. This keeps the planes and pilots more skilled in various ways that make a more rounded package. Anybody here watch a NASCAR race? The driver is at the wheel when the car crosses the line but it is the Owner, Driver, Crew Chief, Pit Crew, Mechanics, Builders, Sponsers and others who work to get him there. A failure anywhere in the team will result in a poor finish if the car even gets into the race in the first place. Of course the money isn't in RC to support this kind of effort so it doesn't happen unless someone does it out of pocket. Anybody know any pilots who might like to join a team where the team provides the winches, planes, radios, sighting and timing equipment and mechanics and helpers and all the pilot has to do is FLY? Imagine being able to drop over to the field after work and practice for an hour with top equipment and full sighting/timing on all flights and no time wasted on setup and teardown? How about having planes and radios so that even if you destroy your primary model the night before a contest you still go into the contest with a full quiver of new, perfectly trimmed, top notch planes. Think of flying a contest where your team is as smooth and skilled as a NASCAR pit crew. Oh well, gotta dream sometimes. :) Ever notice how much faster you learn something if you do it once a week vice once a month? How about twice a week? This is better split up as weekend and mid week than both on the weekend. Even the pilots who fly F3B are rarely flying it more than a few times a year (in the USA), what if they could fly fully measured and timed tasks 10 or 100 times as often? michael On 5/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess maybe my point is, f3b seems to give the feeling you need lots of people, spend a ton on equipment and you need specialty planes, which you're going to end up breaking. At least that's what i always perceived. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] F3B (team)
That is just a different degree of racing. In AMA TD there is a perfect score. Make your time exactly and a 100 point landing and no one can post a better score. Even in F3J a perfect might be a zero second (say 1 second) launch and land on the buzzer. There is a measure of racing up the line but very little room for change or improvement, and still the max score is limited by the working time. In F3B speed you might fly 16 seconds but someone who flys 15.9 beats you. If someone flys 15.7 then they beat the guy who beat you. There is no 'max' score, you must always be pushing to the limits of the conditions, your plane and skills. If you don't crash now and then you are probably not pushing enough. Unfortunately, a crash in F3B speed is usually very bad on the plane. Of course, a midair in MOM slope racing is also pretty rough on the planes. :) I love MOM slope racing because of the heads up scramble for the line. I think it is more fun and exciting than F3F or F3B but it also tends to be more expensive because of the carnage when things go wrong. Heck, all of these are cheap compared to ocean racing sailboats but I don't do that anymore either. michael On 5/7/06, Marta Zavala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - F3B is RACING!- F3B isnt racing. Real racing is the Unlimited MOM like the ISR event at Davenport in two weeks. Flying head to head in 30MPH winds at 11lbs, thats real racing! Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] F3B (team)
You are right, MOM can certainly be rough on planes, as such expensive, and yes, speaking from experience when I used to race Olson 30s way back when, RC slope racing cost is just a drop in the bucket compared to boat racing. Just pumping the ISR at Davenport in two weeks. If one can make it out to watch you should, very exciting for spectators as well. Walter - Original Message - From: Michael Neverdosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] F3B (team) That is just a different degree of racing. In AMA TD there is a perfect score. Make your time exactly and a 100 point landing and no one can post a better score. Even in F3J a perfect might be a zero second (say 1 second) launch and land on the buzzer. There is a measure of racing up the line but very little room for change or improvement, and still the max score is limited by the working time. In F3B speed you might fly 16 seconds but someone who flys 15.9 beats you. If someone flys 15.7 then they beat the guy who beat you. There is no 'max' score, you must always be pushing to the limits of the conditions, your plane and skills. If you don't crash now and then you are probably not pushing enough. Unfortunately, a crash in F3B speed is usually very bad on the plane. Of course, a midair in MOM slope racing is also pretty rough on the planes. :) I love MOM slope racing because of the heads up scramble for the line. I think it is more fun and exciting than F3F or F3B but it also tends to be more expensive because of the carnage when things go wrong. Heck, all of these are cheap compared to ocean racing sailboats but I don't do that anymore either. michael On 5/7/06, Marta Zavala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - F3B is RACING!- F3B isnt racing. Real racing is the Unlimited MOM like the ISR event at Davenport in two weeks. Flying head to head in 30MPH winds at 11lbs, thats real racing! Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] FS: X-21 (NIB)
New and still untouched X-21, in UHM Carbon. 126 span, MH32 foil, two-piece wing, X-tail. Ultra-stiff construction and six (6) ballast tubes. Yellow top with red striped bottoms and red points. Reduced to $1,250 shipped to ConUS. Funding another F3B project. Tom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Looking for Dr. Dan, can anyone provide some contact info on him. THANKS!!!
Looking to get in touch with Dr. Dan. Does anyone have his contact info? Please ping me back in a private message. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Edgar The Soaring Junkie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Coroplast in SOCAL
Can anyone reccommend a place to buy 8'x4' coroplast in or around Orange County, Southern California? Thanks. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Gordy's visit
Gordy, It was a pleasure to finally put a face to the flair of your comments to this group. I also own a sharon but mine is not one of the ones he refers to. I did however learn quite a bit from Gordy on how he approaches flying a glider, and he has sound reasoning behind his approach. I tried to include some of his ideas, and you remember the story about changing horses in the middle of the stream. Well Thats what my flying looked like. I have finally started puushing that left stick left and right. I wonder if the pot in that stick is even broken in? Anyway it was great to have people from SOAR, and even Gordy at our first contest of the year. By the way Gordy lost both Saturday and Sunday to a Sharon. Different pilots, same results. grin John Lindsay RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
