[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7986
Dave Register, thanks for the great report on the Team Polecat effort in XC at the Nats. Congratulations to Team Polecat for the pioneering effort, flying a 1.5M DLG in a Cross Country Event. It is an inspiration to us all and motivation to explore new territory every time we fly. It wouldn't surprise me if Team Polecat was at the next NATS in XC with a DLG and a strong team, that can complete the task. What an accomplishment that would be. Or course now that such a strong showing was made, you will probably have competition in that class, and a while new meaning to XC flying will emerge. Great job guys! Best Regards, Ed Anderson LISF - Original Message - From: Soaring Soaring@airage.com To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:44 AM Subject: Soaring V1 #7986 SoaringMon, 24 Jul 2006 Volume 1 : Number 7986 In this issue: Somebody at Nats..?? Help with lost transitter? Re: [RCSE] Nats Coverage RE: [RCSE] Somebody at Nats..?? Help with lost transitter? NATs F3B NATS newsletter Limited Span XC A few NATS XC photos / I Beat Gordy! -- Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:44:11 -0400 From: Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'James V. Bacus' [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com Cc: 'Douglas, Brent' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Somebody at Nats..?? Help with lost transitter? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey all, I just got back to Dayton, and I'm light one transmitter - I'll call AMA in the morning, but if anyone found an old JR 378 out by the Center Stage area (edge of parking lot / covered area by runway), could you get it to a one of the CDs or a DARTS member (Paul Siegel, Jerry Shape, Bob Massman??). Johnny Berlin might have found it, I was tearing down in the same area as him - I'll call down to AMA in the morning, see what kind of luck I have... I planned on replacing it, just not tomorrow. Thanks! Brent Douglas Darts *It's on Channel 44, says Douglas / DARTS on it -- Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 21:19:30 -0400 From: Ben Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Nats Coverage Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] James V. Bacus wrote: Looks like Capn' Jack flew his Ventus scale model into the powerlines!!! Yeah, he did. I was packing up my tent in the camping area when I heard a clatter that sounded like someone kicking the port-a-potty over. Turned around, and I saw the Ventus spiraling down near the towers. Looked around and saw Capn' Jack walking over from about 1/4 mile. Poor ol' Grover was ejected from his pilot seat :) Some good chunks out of the wing, and it looks like the joiner broke, but the fuse looked to be in one piece. Sad to see it, but I'd be willing to bet it'll be back in the air in the future. ben wilson louisville area soaring society -- Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 21:27:04 -0400 From: Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] Somebody at Nats..?? Help with lost transitter? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Found Sorry to waste bandwidth! Brent -- Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 19:24:25 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: NATs F3B Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, Well today finished the F3B contest, XC and Aero tow. Jo I worked both days assisting with the F3B tasks. Phil Renaud ran a tight ship and things ran smoothly. The only real excitement was when Rick Bothel and myself, while working base B for the speed runs, had to take cover when one of the planes appeared to be on a collision coures with our bodys. We both bailed out of the area, hearts pumping, but the pilot regained control just before any accident occured. I didn't think this 61 year old body could still move that fast :-) Anyway, Mike Smith was again the winner today. This is begining to look like the Mike Smith NATs :-) Congrads again to a job well done Mike This is your NATS correspondent :-) George Tomorrow starts 2 days of 2Mtr. -- Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 23:04:55 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: NATS newsletter Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---1153710295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daily NATS info, pictures and scores can be found at this link. _http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/natsnews.asp_ (http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/natsnews.asp) . Don Richmond San Diego, CA (Muncie, IN today) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hilaunch.com ---1153710295 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3Dtext/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII META
RE: [RCSE] Nats Coverage
I see that! I'll have to buy him a drink when I get there to ease the pain, good thing gonzo bailed or he may have been lost as well! H- -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:13 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] Nats Coverage I agree, total thumbs up to whomever is involved. (It's not my doing this time, even though I did it for several years before this nats.) Looks like Capn' Jack flew his Ventus scale model into the powerlines!!! At 01:09 PM 7/23/2006, Harry DeBoer wrote: very well done!!! Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] NATS newsletter
Hi Don, thanks for the nice write up, thanks for all your work - the Nats coverage this year is outstanding! Much luck to all flying this week, thanks to all working it - Brent
[RCSE] Largest size battery for molded Supra?
What's the largest size battery I can fit in the Kennedy Supra? All the builds I've seen have people putting in a significant amount of nose weight, so I'd like to use as large a battery as I can. Will a Sub C pack fit? Maybe a 4/5 Sub C? Or do I need something with a smaller diameter? I'm planning on making it in this configuration to fit further into the nose: | | | _ Specific cell types and sources for said cells would be nice (if possible). Thanks, Mike Robinson
[RCSE] Numbered drill bit question
I want to minimize slop in my control surfaces. What numbered drill bit, or bits, do I need for drilling out control horns and servo arms for Dubro type quick links? Thanks, RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Numbered drill bit question
I use a 1/16 bit, followed by a drop of thin CA after the clevises and control rod have been installed. I do each clevis at the end of the control rod individually, let it cure, cycle the surface through its range of movement and then do the same to the opposite end. If using a threaded rod I will then put a drop of thin CA on the threads where they enter the clevis once I am satisfied with the setup. This all sounds too permanent but works well and still allows disassembly when necessary. Dan - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: rc Soaring Exchange Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:59 PM Subject: [RCSE] Numbered drill bit question I want to minimize slop in my control surfaces. What numbered drill bit, or bits, do I need for drilling out control horns and servo arms for Dubro type quick links? Thanks, RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Numbered drill bit question
Dan, I use the same method on all my control linkages. If you do need to ever change something later just hit the quick link with a little heat from a soldering iron the CA will let go and you make your adjustments then CA it again. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS - Original Message - From: Dan Borer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; rc Soaring Exchange Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Numbered drill bit question I use a 1/16 bit, followed by a drop of thin CA after the clevises and control rod have been installed. I do each clevis at the end of the control rod individually, let it cure, cycle the surface through its range of movement and then do the same to the opposite end. If using a threaded rod I will then put a drop of thin CA on the threads where they enter the clevis once I am satisfied with the setup. This all sounds too permanent but works well and still allows disassembly when necessary. Dan - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: rc Soaring Exchange Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:59 PM Subject: [RCSE] Numbered drill bit question I want to minimize slop in my control surfaces. What numbered drill bit, or bits, do I need for drilling out control horns and servo arms for Dubro type quick links? Thanks, RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Numbered drill bit question
All pins that I know of are .0625 or 1/16 diameter. You can get a .059 drill bit. I think it's a #47. This will give you .005 undersize. This works perfect if you have carbon on FG control horns. They are tough to get started the first time, but by moving the clevis up and down it will loosen the hole fit a little. If you spend 3 minutes doing this, you'll have an almost perfect fit. Once it starts getting loose, which takes about a year of flying, you can put the thin CA on like the others mentioned. The control horns I sell have a .059 hole in them. gv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:59 PM To: rc Soaring Exchange Subject: [RCSE] Numbered drill bit question I want to minimize slop in my control surfaces. What numbered drill bit, or bits, do I need for drilling out control horns and servo arms for Dubro type quick links? Thanks, RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] I've got that drill's number!...Control arm slop, fixed)
Just drop some thin CA on the clevis and horn or arm, it fills the hole around the pin and works great for months. Once its hardened the pin will break free and rotate easily. Its amazing how well that works and no special drill needed. Gordy
[RCSE] RE: Visalia Woody Class
Original Message Subject: RE: Visalia Woody ClassFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Mon, July 24, 2006 11:33 amTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Kevin, Sorry to take so long to reply. The reponses I received from Phil Hill, the CD, aregiven below. Basically it is an RES class without any molded stuff. Personally: This is a STUPID new class. It is a crutch for those who can't buy Composite RES ships, as still rules out every wood ship that ever had flaps/ailerons in nostalgia class.If you look at Question 6, you can see that most do not know anything about nostalgia/wood ships.Question 12 indicates thata concensus is that ALL oldnostalgia ships ONLYWERE RES. Not So. I know I will be on the "HIT list" once this reply is received by all, but it no different than those who complain that molded RES class ships are taking over. It might have been better to just place all molded ships greater than 2M in open class. I have flown my Graupner Cirrus for more than 5 years at Visalia, both in Open as well as RES, so I am well aware of the issues. Additionally, the Cirrus is a straight winged, dihedral RES ship, so I also have wondered whether is could even compete in the "Bent Wing" RES class too. Straight wings do not equal bent wing polys. You never know. If the "Woody" Class was open for designs, I was looking into building a very large, flapped RES ship. Now I will probably just build a wood ship, and fly it in OPEN. What the heck, if I can do well in that class with a wood ship designed for floating and landing, it may open a few eyes. Good Luck with your new designs. Thermals, Chris AdamsLSF 348 LvL 5 (#8) SNIP See the answer at the end of each question. The Woody class is for the guy whowants to fly like it was before the hi-tech crap ruined the affordablesailplane. I retained the OPEN RES for those who want to fly RES but still throwlots of bucks at it. I think you can figure it out as you go. Just think back tothe early eighties type of sailplane and you will be OK. I will be the finaljudge. Phil Can you please give us some guidelines for the Woody Class? 1) No wood sheeted foam wings? YES 2) Built-up wings with CF spar reinforcments only? YES 3) Can you CF reinforce a Balsa Leading and Trailing Edge? NO 4) Wing ribs can't be CF capped? NO 5) Are all Czech-type designed planes, e. g. Ava's, Ravins, Photons, not permitted in the class? CORRECT 6) Can you fly a woody Todi, Maestro? Do they meet the requirements? 7) All functions permitted? RES ONLY 8) Fuselages can be CF, FG, Pod and Boom, etc? YES 9) R/E's must be built up and of wood? Same types of construction as wings?YES 10) Is there some kind of Builder of the model rule? I. E. Can perkins buy his ARF ship from Hobby lobby? As long as it meets the woody calssificationit's OK 11) Who is going to measure/police the models? The biggest assholes at CVRC,ME Claude Turner 12) What other limitations? No water ballast?? Come on lets get real herethis is for the guy who just wants to compete like it used to be. If you wantthis type of crap fly RES OPEN Are you trying to get people to once again design and build wood planes?YES,Is it not obvious. Inquiring minds want to know! Thanks, Chris Adams LSF 348 LvL 5 (#8) Original Message Subject: Re: VisaliaFrom: "Chris Adams" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Mon, July 24, 2006 11:09 amTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: "Kevin Webb" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Chris Adams" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: VisaliaDate: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:21:41 -0700Chris:Did you ever get an answer from Phil? Also, do you know if one flies multiple events if they can use different frequencies? I emailed Phil but haven't got an answer.Kevin WebbLSVF V- Original Message - From: "Chris Adams" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:17 PMSubject: Re: VisaliaPhil,Can you please give us some guidelines for the Woody Class?1) No wood sheeted foam wings?2) Built-up wings with CF spar reinforcments only?3) Can you CF reinforce a Balsa Leading and Trailing Edge?4) Wing ribs can't be CF capped?5) Are all Czech-type designed planes, e. g. Ava's, Ravins, Photons, not permitted in the class?6) Can you fly a woody Todi, Maestro?7) All functions permitted?8) Fuselages can be CF, FG, Pod and Boom, etc?9) R/E's must be built up and of wood? Same types of construction as wings?10) Is there some kind of Builder of the model rule? I. E. Can perkins buy his ARF ship from Hobby lobby?11) Who is going to measure/police the models?12) What other limitations? No water ballast??Are you trying to get people to once again design and build wood planes?Inquiring minds want to know!Thanks,Chris AdamsLSF 348 LvL 5
