[RCSE] Fw: tangerine overall winner

2007-11-26 Thread Ed Whyte

Good morning All;
Just wanted to congradulate Jerry Baxter on his First in 2 Meter, Fourth in 
Unlimited and Over All Champion.
Jerry is flying my ROGUE 2.0 for Two Meter and his trusty Psyko for 
Unlimited.
Congradulation to Ingo, Jerry and all the competeters for there great 
flying. A BIG thank you goes out to the Bussards for another excelent 
Tangerien Nats.

ED WHYTE

WHYTE WINGS
7207 CORNERSTONE DR.
CALEDONIA, MI 49316
(616) 698-8668
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Ed,

   Jerry Baxter won the weekend at the Tangerine.  His first place finish 
on Saturday combined with his fourth place finish today put him in the fly 
off for top honors.  He said it was a 15 minute round of which he achieved 
13 minutes with the second place person about 5 minutes behind.  He flew his 
Psycho in the fly off.



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[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #10398

2007-11-26 Thread DENDKN
In a message dated 11/25/2007 10:41:14 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
Soaring@airage.com writes:

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I am using Futuba 2.4 GHz FASST Systems with no problems and  excellent range 
in:
 
1) An Electron 2 M F5J Outrunner Class electric sailplane
 
2) An AVA F5J Limited Class electric sailplane
 
3) A Super V 100 full house TD sailplane
 
4) A foam Cub park flyer test plane
 
With all these sailplanes and the park flyer I have not had any  problems 
flying at three field sites around Albuquerque.  At the  Albuquerque Balloon 
Festival Park I have flown all these sailplanes to my  limit of sight in the 
presence of others flying Spectrums and 72 mc radio  systems.
 
Dale Nutter



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[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #10400

2007-11-26 Thread aeajr
Dale,
 
Thanks for the report on the FASST system.  Did you make any special 
installations or did you just stick the receiver inside the fuselage, same as 
you would a 72 MHz system.
 
Ed Anderson

 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:43:57 EST
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Soaring@airage.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I am using Futuba 2.4 GHz FASST Systems with no problems and 
 excellent range in:
 
 1) An Electron 2 M F5J Outrunner Class electric sailplane
 2) An AVA F5J Limited Class electric sailplane
 3) A Super V 100 full house TD sailplane
 4) A foam Cub park flyer test plane
 
 With all these sailplanes and the park flyer I have not had any 
 problems flying at three field sites around Albuquerque. At the 
 Albuquerque Balloon 
 Festival Park I have flown all these sailplanes to my limit of 
 sight in the presence of others flying Spectrums and 72 mc radio systems.
 
 Dale Nutter


[RCSE] So, having read the 2.4 Articles in this Month's RCSD, What's your 2.4 opinion?

2007-11-26 Thread BCLERX
I've been on 2.4 since September. No problems. Flew on 2.4 at the Visalia 
contest and everything worked perfect (JR9303). I plan on flying the F3J world 
champs next year on 2.4. I guess that means I'm sold on the technology. I think 
I'll be posting some VHF stuff for sale soon (real cheap).

One point does need to be made and that is the receiver installation will 
impact the range performance. For this reason, it is important to read the 
instructions and to carefully range check a new installation (and periodically 
double check it). There is a small glitch counter that records the lost 
frames 
of information during a particular flight. Actually, the receiver itself 
records the performance data and the counter just reads the info. You can 
improve 
your receiver installation and see data from not only the main receiver, but 
the aux receivers as well. I've seen at least one, (slightly problematic) 
installation that was improved big time by just moving the aux Rx a couple 
inches 
to a new location.

I've been flying the 2.4 in a Zenith 3.7   It has a CF fuse with a fiberglass 
nose. I helped the other Joe   (Joe Rodriguez) install a 2.4 receiver in 
his Artemis Light for the Visalia contest. It has a full CF fuse, so we poked 
the main Rx antanna out each side of the fuse (they stick out about an inch on 
each side) and mounted the aux Rx behind the flap servo since the wing has a 
fiberglass skin (not a CF skin). The only CF in the wing is the spar (which 
could block it from the front, but then the fuse antenna would still pick up 
the 
signal). No problems. None. He also flies it in a Zenith.

The aux (satellite) receiver is important. It actually does most of the 
reception work if you can get it away from the rest of the radio. If you're 
flying 
a plane with CF, I'd recommend the 9 series receiver with the satellite 
receiver. You can actually plug in two aux receivers instead of just one. I'll 
probably do that. Not that I've had any problems, but just as a warm fuzzy. 
They 
hardly weigh anything, so why not?

Have you ever been to Visalia on a friday with the chaos and everyone 
shooting each other down? Imagine that not being a problem with 2.4? Imagine 
contests 
that no longer need TX impounds, frequency pins or a matrix that takes 
frequencies into account (and the manpower needed to deal with all that)? 

2.4 is here to stay. Start learning about it and talking with those who use 
it. I think you'll find that it works. Make the switch when you're comfortable 
or looking for your next radio. Fly it in your beater airplane to gain 
confidence (if it range checks good, it will work. So, I didn't have any 
worries 
about testing it in my primary contest ship). If anyone has any horror stories, 
post them along with all the details. I think you'll find nearly all the 
problems to be installation or operator errors. I'm assuming everyone is 
talking 
about the JR/Spektrum equipment. There are other manufacturers of 2.4/0.9/non 
VHF equipment. I haven't tried them, so I can't comment. The only thing I do 
know about them at the moment is that not all of their stuff works.yet. 
When picking out your next radio, look at what everyone else is flying.

Hope these comments help

Ben Clerx


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Re: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #10398

2007-11-26 Thread DENDKN
 
 
All
 
I am flying the old standard AVA EF (flapped electric with a lot of  carbon). 
 The rcvr is mounted on a velcro pad on the bottom of the pod with  its 
antenna side in line with the back of the pod access opening.   There is a lot 
of 
carbon in the pod in that area.  The antennas are routed  toward the carbon 
boom and exit
3 1/2 inches back of the pod access opening and 1/2 inch above the pod  seam. 
 Golden Rod pushrod tubes can be used to make antenna guides to  protect and 
direct the bare wire antenna.  When the guides are 45 degrees  from the fuse on
 each side (and located behind the wing) they are at their   optimum 
orientation.
 
Excellent operation and range have been achieved with this antenna  
arrangement.
 
Dale






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Re: [RCSE] So, having read the 2.4 Articles in this Month's RCSD, What's your 2.4 opinion?

2007-11-26 Thread Bill's Email
 The Futaba FASST system has two antennas and does not use a second RX. 
Each antenna has a short piece of coaxial cable on it (very small 
diameter) that is a few inches long. This makes it much easier to get 
the antennas out and away from the CF in a fuse, etc.


Just wanted to throw that so it was clear that not all systems use a 
second RX. But regardless, it is important to get the antenna(s) out 
where the RF can see them!!



Bill

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Re: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #10398

2007-11-26 Thread John Erickson
I have the FASST system in my new Lightspeed hand launch glider.  I was
careful to place the antennae ends in areas where there was no carbon.  That
being said, both ends are adjacent to electronics, the carbon boom and
strips of reinforcing carbon.  The two ends are at 90º to one another.

I haven¹t had a glitch and I¹ve flown the plane to 1,500 feet.  I¹ve also
flown low over buildings and fences, and in crowded radio environments.  So
far, so good!  Different than the Spectrum set up, the Futaba just has a
single receiver.  Very easy to install and set up.  I like the ability to go
to the flying site and not worry about getting shot down.

JE
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Erickson Architects
John R. Erickson, AIA



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Subject: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #10398

In a message dated 11/25/2007 10:41:14 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
Soaring@airage.com writes:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
I am using Futuba 2.4 GHz FASST Systems with no problems and excellent range
in:
 
1) An Electron 2 M F5J Outrunner Class electric sailplane
 
2) An AVA F5J Limited Class electric sailplane
 
3) A Super V 100 full house TD sailplane
 
4) A foam Cub park flyer test plane
 
With all these sailplanes and the park flyer I have not had any problems
flying at three field sites around Albuquerque.  At the Albuquerque Balloon
Festival Park I have flown all these sailplanes to my limit of sight in the
presence of others flying Spectrums and 72 mc radio systems.
 
Dale Nutter




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[RCSE] Paul MacCready: Flying on solar wings

2007-11-26 Thread Ben Wilson
Paul MacCready (creator of the Gossamer Condor, etc) gave a talk at 
TED back in 2003, where he discusses a number of project he'd worked 
on, including the Condors, the EV-1 electric car, Helios and the 
Walkalong glider.  Must-see stuff for soaring and oddball aviation 
enthusiasts like us...


http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/176

(The rest of the TED talks are fascinating as well...)

Ben Wilson
Louisville Area Soaring Society
http://www.louisvillesoaring.org


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[RCSE] There were no Supra's at Tangerine!

2007-11-26 Thread GordySoar
Perfects and JW's, so does that invalidate Ingo's domination? :-)
 
Gordy
Providence RI tonite



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2007-11-26 Thread Joe Rodriguez
For sale is two Airtronics STYLUS transmitter Modules 93072 with Airtronics 
crystals the modules are almost new condition in original box.

this is the only way to change frequency 72 mhz on a Stylus... unless you have 
a 2.4 module

1 on freq 27
1 on freq 57

$55. each shipped to CONUS  paypal preferred 


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