[RCSE] Airfoil flight comparison( HN-216)?

[Richard Burnoski]

Ok guys, Can anyone tell me anything about the way this airfoil performs?
HN-216
In speed ?  In duration?  In distance?
What airfoil  would it compare to of the ones we use now?
So many airfoils so little time. Thanks, Richard

[RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising--Matching Marc Gellart's 100!

[GordySoar]

I'll send what's in my pocket at the moment, the team can chose between the  
following:
 
I'll send 100 Pesos, or 100 Jamaican, or 100 Dirham (Dubai) your choice  :-).
Gordy
Orlando tonite
 
 
In a message dated 1/31/2008 4:08:58 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thats  the ticket! Thanks for th support!
Thermals to you!   Richard
- Original Message - 
From:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Joe Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;  "'RCSE'" ; 
"Richard Burnoski"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:03  PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising


>  Joe,
> AMA doesn't sit behind walls, but they know their bottom line and  it is 
> tight these days.  Let's face it, if you play, you know  the cost, and that 
> being so, anything that defraes that cost is a  bonus.  The Jr's as well as 
> the Sr's will get lots of support  from our community, and that is where it 
> is suppose to  come.
>
> Here's a C-note for the cause Rich et.  Al.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by  AT&T

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RE: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising

[mrmaserati]

When is a tax not a tax. When it is a donation, of course, maybe pushed with a 
small amount of gentle persuasion.

To me this would not be a tax but a priviledge to support our F3J soaring team.

And you ?

Regards, dave Corven. 
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RE: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising

[Jim Monaco]

Just for grins - here is the FAI teams that the AMA supports and the number
of people allowed for each team.  They also support the F3J Junior team at
the same level, I am not sure about the junior teams in the other events.
You can see that the funding commitment for all of this is significant from
the AMA perspective...

F1A,B,C - three competitors per class, plus a team manager and possibly an
assistant team manager, maximum 11.
F1D - three competitors plus a team manager, total 4.
F2 - one team manger, plus an assistant team manager, total 20;
F2A - three pilots
F2B - three pilots
F2C - three pilots and three mechanics
F2D - three pilots and three helpers
F3A - three pilots plus a team manger, total 4.
F3B - three pilots, two helpers, plus a team manager, total 6.
F3C - three pilots plus a team manager, total 4.
F3D- three pilots, three caller/mechanics, plus a team manager, total 7.
F4B,C - three pilots each class, plus one team manager, total 7.
If B and C are flown at different locations and times, an additional
teammanager may be funded.
F5B,D - three pilots each class plus a team manager, total 7.
F3J - three pilots, two helpers, plus a team manager, total 6.
Spacemodels - 12 pilots plus one team manager, total 13.
U.S. reigning world champion(s) each category.

Jim Monaco
US F3J Team Manager 2008  


-Original Message-
From: Chuck Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
snipped

How many does it 
take now?  Maybe Skip can provide a more accurate number for that 
first team since he was there.



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RE: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising

[Chuck Anderson]

Good post about team expenses.   Much as I dislike the F3X events, I 
support our teams and try to make a small donation.  (Us retired 
fliers don't have Gordys resources)  I also think all donations 
should be voluntary.Another problem for AMA is the increased 
number of teams to be supported and the increased number of team 
support people. As I remember, the team we sent to the first F3B 
event in 1977 had the three fliers and a manager.   How many does it 
take now?  Maybe Skip can provide a more accurate number for that 
first team since he was there.


Chuck

At 05:35 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote:

I can contribute to this thread.  The information is not secret, it is a
published document and applies to ALL AMA supported FAI teams and there are
quite a few of them, not just F3B/J AND we constitute some of the largest
teams.  AMA contributes the following to the FAI teams:

- $400 to the team fund - this typically is allocated towards the airfare,
but can be for any team expense
- Entry Fees for all pilots, managers and support staff
- FAI registration fees
- Banquet costs for all team members
- If food is prepared and served on site by the organizers, it is paid for
- Lodging for the contest days and 1 day prior and after
(These expenses are supported as actual expenses up to 900 Swiss Francs
($832 USD) per team member - not counting the $400 for the airfare)

The US F3J team is comprised this year of 7 pilots (including Cody R. the
returning Junior WC) Junior and Senior Managers, and 4 tow people for an
entourage of 13 people.  Last cycle the AMA approved funding for the Junior
team manager and 2 separate towers for the junior team, and this cycle they
waived their normal policy and are also funding the returning junior WC (who
competed in the team selections) so you can see that the AMA is INCREASING
their overall support for F3J in particular.

Unfortunately costs are very high for this trip.  Airfares are nearly double
what the fares were to Martin last cycle, and since the flying site is quite
some distance from both the airport and the hotels we will have very high
ground transportation costs - we will need 3 large vans for all the people
and equipment.

The total budget for the trip looks like about $45K with AMA supporting
about $15K which is about the same as last cycle, so we have  huge hill to
climb.  In previous cycles the soaring community has been very generous and
we basically broke even on the last cycle. With the generosity of many
people we can hopefully raise enough funds to make the final accounting
minimally painful to the pilots and team managers (tower costs are fully
reimbursed by the team).

I also appreciate the offer of clubs adding a fee to their contests to
support the F3J team.  However, as desperately as we need the funding, I am
not a fan of "taxing" pilots to support our goals.  People need to support
the organizations and groups that they choose to support.  I would prefer
that clubs solicit donations at their events to support the team. I am all
for specific fundraising events where pilots attend specifically to support
the team. I will be preparing a brochure that you can print and pass out for
raffle sales, merchandise sale and donations at your events, I hope to have
that done this weekend.

I am very optimistic that our supporters will again come through and help us
send a thoroughly prepared team to Turkey with nothing to worry about except
winning the golds!!!

Thanks to all of our sponsors and supporters again

Jim Monaco
US F3J Team Manager 2008


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RE: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising

[Jim Monaco]

I can contribute to this thread.  The information is not secret, it is a
published document and applies to ALL AMA supported FAI teams and there are
quite a few of them, not just F3B/J AND we constitute some of the largest
teams.  AMA contributes the following to the FAI teams:

- $400 to the team fund - this typically is allocated towards the airfare,
but can be for any team expense
- Entry Fees for all pilots, managers and support staff
- FAI registration fees
- Banquet costs for all team members
- If food is prepared and served on site by the organizers, it is paid for
- Lodging for the contest days and 1 day prior and after
(These expenses are supported as actual expenses up to 900 Swiss Francs
($832 USD) per team member - not counting the $400 for the airfare)

The US F3J team is comprised this year of 7 pilots (including Cody R. the
returning Junior WC) Junior and Senior Managers, and 4 tow people for an
entourage of 13 people.  Last cycle the AMA approved funding for the Junior
team manager and 2 separate towers for the junior team, and this cycle they
waived their normal policy and are also funding the returning junior WC (who
competed in the team selections) so you can see that the AMA is INCREASING
their overall support for F3J in particular.

Unfortunately costs are very high for this trip.  Airfares are nearly double
what the fares were to Martin last cycle, and since the flying site is quite
some distance from both the airport and the hotels we will have very high
ground transportation costs - we will need 3 large vans for all the people
and equipment.

The total budget for the trip looks like about $45K with AMA supporting
about $15K which is about the same as last cycle, so we have  huge hill to
climb.  In previous cycles the soaring community has been very generous and
we basically broke even on the last cycle. With the generosity of many
people we can hopefully raise enough funds to make the final accounting
minimally painful to the pilots and team managers (tower costs are fully
reimbursed by the team).

I also appreciate the offer of clubs adding a fee to their contests to
support the F3J team.  However, as desperately as we need the funding, I am
not a fan of "taxing" pilots to support our goals.  People need to support
the organizations and groups that they choose to support.  I would prefer
that clubs solicit donations at their events to support the team. I am all
for specific fundraising events where pilots attend specifically to support
the team. I will be preparing a brochure that you can print and pass out for
raffle sales, merchandise sale and donations at your events, I hope to have
that done this weekend. 

I am very optimistic that our supporters will again come through and help us
send a thoroughly prepared team to Turkey with nothing to worry about except
winning the golds!!!

Thanks to all of our sponsors and supporters again

Jim Monaco
US F3J Team Manager 2008  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:38 PM
To: Joe Rodriguez; 'RCSE'; Richard Burnoski
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising

Joe, if we knew how much $ AMA does supply to support our W/C teams we would
probably say wow, that much.
That info is probably available from many sources, including the team
managers and members. Anybody wish to make that info available ?

Meanwhile, Joe, I think your suggestion of a $5.00 surcharge for every
sailplane contest for support of our F3J team is a GREAT idea. I will
propose to our club, GDSHS, that we do this and also that we add a smaller
surcharge at our monthly club contests for the same purpose.

I am going to try to spread this idea in our area, starting now.

How does everyone feel about this ?

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I have a new blue?left wing tip for a Soprano asking $125 +shipping pics upon 
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Re: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising

[mrmaserati]

Joe, if we knew how much $ AMA does supply to support our W/C teams we would 
probably say wow, that much.
That info is probably available from many sources, including the team managers 
and members. Anybody wish to make that info available ?

Meanwhile, Joe, I think your suggestion of a $5.00 surcharge for every 
sailplane contest for support of our F3J team is a GREAT idea. I will propose 
to our club, GDSHS, that we do this and also that we add a smaller surcharge at 
our monthly club contests for the same purpose.

I am going to try to spread this idea in our area, starting now.

How does everyone feel about this ?

Gordy ???

Regards, Dave Corven.
 -- Original message --
From: "Joe Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> It sucks that AMA does not allow more monies for ALL TEAM USA's to compete 
> abroad representing our country. As Junior team manager for the 2000 effort 
> in 
> Greece there was NO AMA SUPPORT for the Juniors at that time and we were 
> fortunate to raise enough $$ to cover all costs for the junior team and help 
> the 
> seniors. So I know how tough it is and it is tougher in today's economic 
> climate.
> 
> My idea to help is that ALL USA SOARING CLUBS holding contests increase there 
> entry fee by $5 from now till JULY. This $5 will go to the F3J TEAM and 
> should 
> be a substantial amount, but we need to start NOW.
> 
>  Maybe the AMA will take note as they sit behind there castle walls in 
> Muncie. 
> maybe just maybe!! the AMA can afford to toss you a few logs for fire wood to 
> keep you warm Rich. (-:
> 
> joe
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Richard Burnoski 
>   To: 'RCSE' 
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:31 AM
>   Subject: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising
> 
> 
>   B !
>   Well by now most of you guys have your new contest killer plane , and 
> possibly 
> have the radio installed already.  Your probably looking on your shelves 
> pulling 
> out last years broken stuff and glueing that back together for back up.
>   Here in beautiful Chicago , we almost broke an all time temperature change 
> of 
> the temperature going from 50 degrees to minus 4 this morning.
>   I thought about going out to practice landings,,, umm, not really.
>   So, Id like to go to the South West Classic and see your smiling faces but 
> the 
> upcoming year expenditures, plus pending plane purchases will probably allow 
> me 
> a spring flying contest being F3J in the Rockies in Denver Memorial weekend.
>   The first time Ill see most of you soaring guys will be at the Toledo weak 
> signals show in Ohio, April 4-5-6. Barry Kennedy has allowed Jeffery Walters 
> and 
> myself to be in his booth to sell raffle tickets and T shirts for the team. ( 
> Thanks Barry).
>   I thought making the US Team was hard but this fundraising thing is equal 
> the 
> challenge.  We have 151 days left till leaving for  the WC, and the team has 
> a 
> net need figured around $30,000. Another fundraising problem is our 
> fundraising 
> effort is cut a whole month shorter  because the WC is a month earlier (late 
> June). 
>   Thus, I have the  winter blues thinking about it!   I wish I could fly 
> today 
> to remind me what this soaring thing is all about! I think you know what I 
> mean! 
> That is why Soaring is so great,  You can leave everything behind during a 
> flight or two. I could only dream about being in Punta Gorda with you guys 
> last 
> weekend.
> 
>So We the Team have to rely heavily on your generous contributions  thru 
> the 
> Team website.   I have come to be amazed at the cost of what it takes to send 
> a 
> team to a place as far as Turkey! usf3jteam.com
>   If you have already contributed, thanks a million and good luck on the 
> raffle!  
> And feel free to drop me an email to let me know that you did , or email  
> with 
> any questions regarding preparing for flying in the WC.
> 
>   2008 F3J , USA Team   Richard Burnoski
> 


--- Begin Message ---




It sucks that AMA does not allow more monies for ALL TEAM USA's to compete 
abroad representing our country. As Junior team manager for the 2000 effort in 
Greece there was NO AMA SUPPORT for the Juniors at that time and we were 
fortunate to raise enough $$ to cover all costs for the junior team 
and help the seniors. So I know how tough it is and it is tougher in today's 
economic climate.
 
My idea to help is that ALL USA SOARING CLUBS holding 
contests increase there entry fee by $5 from now till JULY. This $5 will go 
to the F3J TEAM and should be a substantial amount, but we need to start 
NOW.
 
 Maybe the AMA will take note as they sit behind there castle walls in 
Muncie. maybe just maybe!! the AMA can afford to toss you a few logs for fire 
wood to keep you warm Rich. (-:
 
joe

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard 
  Burnoski 
  To: 'RCSE' 

Re: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising

[Richard Burnoski]

Thats the ticket! Thanks for th support!
 Thermals to you! Richard
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Joe Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'RCSE'" ; 
"Richard Burnoski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising



Joe,
AMA doesn't sit behind walls, but they know their bottom line and it is 
tight these days.  Let's face it, if you play, you know the cost, and that 
being so, anything that defraes that cost is a bonus.  The Jr's as well as 
the Sr's will get lots of support from our community, and that is where it 
is suppose to come.


Here's a C-note for the cause Rich et. Al.

Marc


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[RCSE] Tree story, actually a pipe

[nostalgiaflyer]

In the late 70's/early 80's at one of the early Visalia Fall Soaring Festivals 
at the high school site,  Don Doe (past NCSL Champion) was flying a Paragon on 
yellow and white, a frequency that was also an emergency CHP channel. Suddenly 
during a nice flight well above launch height Don lost control of the plane. It 
came all the way down in a series of spirals and dives finally disappearing 
from sight when it dove into a large drainage ditch with a ten foot berm on 
both sides, and  near a culvert under a road that bordered the field. Don  
started walking to retreive the werckage when suddenly to everyone's shock and 
awe the Paragon appeared in a near vertical climb ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE 
ROAD. Don regained control and landed the plane safely. Unbelievably, the plane 
had flown through the culvert (I remember that it was about 12' diameter) 
without hitting anything.
Mike Clancy
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Re: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising

[rmg79]

Joe,
AMA doesn't sit behind walls, but they know their bottom line and it is tight 
these days.  Let's face it, if you play, you know the cost, and that being so, 
anything that defraes that cost is a bonus.  The Jr's as well as the Sr's will 
get lots of support from our community, and that is where it is suppose to come.

Here's a C-note for the cause Rich et. Al.

Marc


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-Original Message-
From: "Joe Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:04:28 
To:"'RCSE'" ,"Richard Burnoski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising


It sucks that AMA does not allow more monies for ALL TEAM USA's to compete 
abroad representing our country. As Junior team manager for the 2000 effort in 
Greece there was NO AMA SUPPORT for the Juniors at that time and we were 
fortunate to raise enough $$ to cover all costs for the junior team and help 
the seniors. So I know how tough it is and it is tougher in today's economic 
climate. 
  
My idea to help is that ALL USA SOARING CLUBS holding contests increase there 
entry fee by $5 from now till JULY. This $5 will go to the F3J TEAM and should 
be a substantial amount, but we need to start NOW. 
  
 Maybe the AMA will take note as they sit behind there castle walls in Muncie. 
maybe just maybe!! the AMA can afford to toss you a few logs for fire wood to 
keep you warm Rich. (-: 
  
joe 
- Original Message - 
From: Richard 
  Burnoski   
To: 'RCSE'   
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:31 AM 
Subject: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising 

 
B ! 
Well by now most of you guys have your new contest killer plane , and possibly 
have the radio installed already.  Your probably looking on your shelves 
pulling out last years broken stuff and glueing that back together for back up. 
Here in beautiful Chicago , we almost broke an all time temperature change of 
the temperature going from 50 degrees to minus 4 this morning. 
I thought about going out to practice landings,,, umm, not really. 
So, Id like to go to the South West Classic and see your smiling faces but the 
upcoming year expenditures, plus pending plane purchases will probably allow 
me a spring flying contest being F3J in the Rockies in Denver Memorial weekend. 
The first time Ill see most of you soaring guys will be at the Toledo weak 
signals show in Ohio, April 4-5-6. Barry Kennedy has allowed Jeffery Walters 
and myself to be in his booth to sell raffle tickets and T shirts for the team. 
( Thanks Barry). 
I thought making the US Team was hard but this fundraising thing is equal the 
challenge.  We have 151 days left till leaving for  the WC, and the team has a 
net need figured around $30,000. Another fundraising problem is our fundraising 
effort is cut a whole month shorter  because the WC is a month earlier (late 
June). 
Thus, I have the  winter blues thinking about it!   I wish I could fly today to 
remind me what this soaring thing is all about! I think you know what I mean! 
That is why Soaring is so great,  You can leave everything behind during a 
flight or two. I could only dream about being in Punta Gorda with you guys last 
weekend. 
  
 So We the Team have to rely heavily on your generous contributions  thru the 
Team website.   I have come to be amazed at the cost of what it takes to send a 
team to a place as far as Turkey! usf3jteam.com 
If you have already contributed, thanks a million and good luck on the raffle!  
And feel free to drop me an email to let me know that you did , or email  with 
any questions regarding preparing for flying in the WC. 
  
2008 F3J , USA Team   Richard Burnoski 
 

Fw: [RCSE] Tree story

[Peter]

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Tree story



Hi all,
All tree stories begin the same way, "win this contest, win, win, one more 
extra turn" then the trees jump up and grab your plane. After some @#^^* 
words I realized my $2000 girlfriend (the only girlfriends my wife let me 
have), landed out of sight in a tree.
Well, mark the plane (brand new Pike Perfect) my timer (and wife) and I 
start walking, looking for a green plane in a green forest..I was half 
sick to my stomach after all my brain waves explained to me there is no 
way this plane would be OK. My wife Leanne tried to calm me somewhat. I 
used my radio to wiggle the sticks hoping we would hear servo noises.

We did, Leanne did. "Over here!" she yelled.
I was about 20 feet off to the left of the tree and my wife was right 
under. "Honey let me turn my radio off.  I would like to look at the 
glider and see what needs to be done. Do you see any damage?"
By this time my wonderful wife was already half way UP the tree. She 
lowerd my Pike down to me. As I checked for damage my wife  needed help. 
"Can you help me down first?" she asked.
What a plane, what a wife (I hope, I have my priority right!) What a wife, 
what a plane. No damage on ether.  My wife rescued my girlfriend...is 
there anyone else who can say thatI love my wife.


Peter Baumeler




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[RCSE] BIG BIG BOX .... Electric Tug :-)

[Craig Allen]

Wow.. I came home yesterday to find the biggest box I have ever seen on my door 
step. 

Thanks to Brian Chan's post I purchased a Lanier Stinger from Tower Hobbies. 
Hell, I even got an additional $20 off the already 1/2 off sale price. 

Should make a great electric tow plane with an Axi 5345/16 turning as 21-14 
prop with 12s3p A123 batteries.. I plan on making two 36 cell bricks that can 
be easily interchanged. Using 3 9A chargers I should be able to recharge in as 
little as 25 min.

We should now have 4 or 5 electric tugs in NorCal this flying season :-)

Craig

[RCSE] MWSC REGISTRATION

[Alden Shipp]

Pre-registration ended to day.  So starting with  postmarks  tomorrow 
entries are open to one and all.


Check www.midwestslope.com for what frequencies are taken and an entry form.

Thanks
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Re: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising

[Joe Rodriguez]

It sucks that AMA does not allow more monies for ALL TEAM USA's to compete 
abroad representing our country. As Junior team manager for the 2000 effort in 
Greece there was NO AMA SUPPORT for the Juniors at that time and we were 
fortunate to raise enough $$ to cover all costs for the junior team and help 
the seniors. So I know how tough it is and it is tougher in today's economic 
climate.

My idea to help is that ALL USA SOARING CLUBS holding contests increase there 
entry fee by $5 from now till JULY. This $5 will go to the F3J TEAM and should 
be a substantial amount, but we need to start NOW.

 Maybe the AMA will take note as they sit behind there castle walls in Muncie. 
maybe just maybe!! the AMA can afford to toss you a few logs for fire wood to 
keep you warm Rich. (-:

joe
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Burnoski 
  To: 'RCSE' 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:31 AM
  Subject: [RCSE] Winter blues and USA F3J fundraising


  B !
  Well by now most of you guys have your new contest killer plane , and 
possibly have the radio installed already.  Your probably looking on your 
shelves pulling out last years broken stuff and glueing that back together for 
back up.
  Here in beautiful Chicago , we almost broke an all time temperature change of 
the temperature going from 50 degrees to minus 4 this morning.
  I thought about going out to practice landings,,, umm, not really.
  So, Id like to go to the South West Classic and see your smiling faces but 
the upcoming year expenditures, plus pending plane purchases will probably 
allow me a spring flying contest being F3J in the Rockies in Denver Memorial 
weekend.
  The first time Ill see most of you soaring guys will be at the Toledo weak 
signals show in Ohio, April 4-5-6. Barry Kennedy has allowed Jeffery Walters 
and myself to be in his booth to sell raffle tickets and T shirts for the team. 
( Thanks Barry).
  I thought making the US Team was hard but this fundraising thing is equal the 
challenge.  We have 151 days left till leaving for  the WC, and the team has a 
net need figured around $30,000. Another fundraising problem is our fundraising 
effort is cut a whole month shorter  because the WC is a month earlier (late 
June). 
  Thus, I have the  winter blues thinking about it!   I wish I could fly today 
to remind me what this soaring thing is all about! I think you know what I 
mean! That is why Soaring is so great,  You can leave everything behind during 
a flight or two. I could only dream about being in Punta Gorda with you guys 
last weekend.

   So We the Team have to rely heavily on your generous contributions  thru the 
Team website.   I have come to be amazed at the cost of what it takes to send a 
team to a place as far as Turkey! usf3jteam.com
  If you have already contributed, thanks a million and good luck on the 
raffle!  And feel free to drop me an email to let me know that you did , or 
email  with any questions regarding preparing for flying in the WC.

  2008 F3J , USA Team   Richard Burnoski