Re: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4?
The attraction is primarily for those who fly at contests or in areas of crowded frequencies. You see if you go to a moderately sized contest you will be forced to share a frequency pin with one or even more of your 72 MHZ brethren. If one of them screws up and flips on their TX ( assuming there is no TX impound) You may likely lose your aircraft. The last contest of the season for me is a prefect example. I am just getting my legs in TD and F3J having only flown RC for maybe 4 years max. I flew at every major contest for the last two years. At the last big tournament some guy shows up with my frequency and we are both forced to impound our TX's for the entire weekend checking with the impound manager and the other pilot for the frequency pin every time I wanted to tweak my plane, fly a round or even check the battery life on my TX (ok I could do that with the Stylus without a signal but the impound manager would fill his/her pants) So not only do I have to consider that at this contest there were several northwest contenders in TD but I have to contend with the potential of a shoot down if the conflict system fails. I distinctly remember the background stress this added to the contest. I would have been glad to simply be able to turn on and go For that I would be happy to fart around with technically painful solutions. Unfortunately, I have to buy planes for the WC and the extra 1400 for two 2.4 systems is just not in the budget. I also could benefit from 2.4 as I fly at relatively long distances and my private field which is a monster hay field is right on the edge of the frequency range of another small R/C flight field close by. People show up, see no one else at their field and power on all the time the thought crossed my mind today when I had a split second glitch on my flaps. Food for thought - these are the main considerations for me. Others might be attracted to the feature rich options that this bandwidth offers and several new idiot proof solutions in the new TX's that stop you from using the wrong model memory with the wrong plane etc. All good reasons to get the solution working and lets face it. R/C Soaring pilots are almost certainly always itching to do the impossible. When someone says you can't install 2.4 in a carbon fuse you know they are going to fire up the collective hive (my appologies to Startrek) and come up with a solution. We are the high end geeks of the R/C community after all (said with distinction I might add) David Webb On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Joe Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using my trusty Stylus with Glider Card for almost as long as I've been serious about the sport. It has been essentially trouble free, has no problems with installation and has far more functionality than I could ever dream of using. So I read here about all the challenges involved with 2.4. I can understand relishing technical challenges—but what is the attraction of this apparently finicky and expensive technology? I just don't get it. Could someone 'splain to me what the big deal is? Joe Parsons RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] If its Saturday and Sunday I must be in Orlando!!!
Nice of him to warn ya when he's comming !!! gigglehurtz !! -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eat your hearts out guys or get in your wheels for a two day fun in the MOM sun, Buzzard style! Im heading down on Fridayarmed and dangerous, smiling ear to ear to the point my gigglehurtz. See you there! Gordy **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) ---BeginMessage--- Eat your hearts out guys or get in your wheels for a two day fun in the MOM sun, Buzzard style! I"m heading down on Fridayarmed and dangerous, smiling ear toearto the point my gigglehurtz. See you there! GordyIt's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. ---End Message---
Re: [RCSE] If its Saturday and Sunday I must be in Orlando!!!
He'll probably wimp out when he sees the wind forecast. ;-)If the forecast holds it will be a weekend for real men! Rick At 08:15 AM 3/6/2008, Jack Strother wrote: Nice of him to warn ya when he's comming !!! gigglehurtz !! -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eat your hearts out guys or get in your wheels for a two day fun in the MOM sun, Buzzard style! Im heading down on Fridayarmed and dangerous, smiling ear to ear to the point my gigglehurtz. See you there! Gordy **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Soaring@airage.com Cc:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[RCSE] If its Saturday and Sunday I must be in Orlando!!! Date:Thu, 6 Mar 2008 03:22:23 + Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary=NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_3719_1204809306_1 Eat your hearts out guys or get in your wheels for a two day fun in the MOM sun, Buzzard style! Im heading down on Fridayarmed and dangerous, smiling ear to ear to the point my gigglehurtz. See you there! Gordy -- It's Tax Time! http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance.
[RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? Ask Don Quixote
The current 2.4 excitement is partly deserved and partly justified. At the moment it gives rc pilots a new freedom...it has taken frequency consideration and a need for its administration, concern out of the equation of rc soaring...in a way its like there isn't radio waves being used as part of our hobbyits as though we are preparing a free flight airplane, there isn't any thinking about 'channels'. That freedom means that our minds to can shift to other components of the flight when we come to the field...and preparing the flightthe absence of radio. We still have controls to fool with but that's where it stops. Having said that, 72 has worked safely, does work safely and will continue to work safely. Arguments could be made that if anything it will be even safer and easier to use, with the drop in its population of users. Sure the doomsday guy will throw out the possibility that channel-consideration by pilots will be come lax ...making 72 a dangerous gamble. Clothespins and freq boards will come to disrepair and with it the discipline we all learned to respect as gospel on the field. Possible, but not realistic. I highlighted at the moment because 2.4 is in its sailplane infancy, ( and actually the term 2.4 is only a nickname for these kind of systems because they all currently share the same rf frequency right now there are at least two kinds of systems using 2.4) we can't tell for sure what the future holds when the 2.4 population expands course with the population of sailplane pilots decreasing as our age increases:-( What price that freedom? About $650 for the TX and one RX. Gordy **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
Re: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? Ask Don Quixote
Good stuff. Don't scare everyone off with the cost. You can get a module and receiver for about half as much that will allow you to retain 72mhz and use 2.4ghz. This is the avenue I have taken. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The current 2.4 excitement is partly deserved and partly justified. *At the moment* it gives rc pilots a new freedom...it has taken frequency consideration and a need for its administration, concern out of the equation of rc soaring...in a way its like there isn't radio waves being used as part of our hobbyits as though we are preparing a free flight airplane, there isn't any thinking about 'channels'. That freedom means that our minds to can shift to other components of the flight when we come to the field...and preparing the flightthe absence of radio. We still have controls to fool with but that's where it stops. Having said that, 72 has worked safely, does work safely and will continue to work safely. Arguments could be made that if anything it will be even safer and easier to use, with the drop in its population of users. Sure the doomsday guy will throw out the possibility that channel-consideration by pilots will be come lax ...making 72 a dangerous gamble. Clothespins and freq boards will come to disrepair and with it the discipline we all learned to respect as gospel on the field.* Possible*, but not realistic. I highlighted *at the moment* because 2.4 is in its sailplane infancy, ( and actually the term 2.4 is only a nickname for these kind of systems because they all currently share the same rf frequency right now there are at least two kinds of systems using 2.4) we can't tell for sure what the future holds when the 2.4 population expands course with the population of sailplane pilots decreasing as our age increases:-( What price *that* freedom? About $650 for the TX and one RX. Gordy -- It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance.http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301
Re: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4?
NO FREQUENCY CONTROL BOARD. You are free to fly anytime you like and do not have to locate others on your frequency. -- Original message -- From: Joe Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been using my trusty Stylus with Glider Card for almost as long as I've been serious about the sport. It has been essentially trouble free, has no problems with installation and has far more functionality than I could ever dream of using. So I read here about all the challenges involved with 2.4. I can understand relishing technical challenges-but what is the attraction of this apparently finicky and expensive technology? I just don't get it. Could someone 'splain to me what the big deal is? Joe Parsons ---BeginMessage--- Ive been using my trusty Stylus with Glider Card for almost as long as Ive been serious about the sport. It has been essentially trouble free, has no problems with installation and has far more functionality than I could ever dream of using. So I read here about all the challenges involved with 2.4. I can understand relishing technical challengesbut what is the attraction of this apparently finicky and expensive technology? I just dont get it. Could someone splain to me what the big deal is? Joe Parsons ---End Message---
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RE: [RCSE] 2008 Soaring Masters
Jim Deck wrote: I'm trying to find the dates for the Soaring Masters Event at Muncie this Fall but the AMA calendar doesn't list it. Any body help? TIA, Jim Deck Info snipped from John Diniz's email: All, Since LJ brought it up please mark your calendar for Sept 18-21, 2008 for the 2nd World Soaring Masters. It is on the official IAC calendar. http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/nats/Calendar/wc092008.htm Setup/practice day is the 18th and the MOM starts on Friday morning. Sunday morning wraps up the MOM with the fly-offs for the cash beginning around lunch time. We are still in the early planning stages for the '08 event, but in addition to the top spot payouts Horizon Hobby will be offering a mid-pack fly-off for Big $'s (amount TBD). So get ready because this will be bigger then the '06 event. DVDe's, JD RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? - COST?
In a message dated 3/6/08 7:17:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What price that freedom? About $650 for the TX and one RX. With a little careful shopping you can get started with a 2.4 system for much less than the $650.00 stated. I started about a year ago with a DX7 from an ebay site for $150.00 (NIB) and a 6100 receiver (6 channel, no remote) for $45.00. I then added another DX7 for about $150.00 and several receivers at various prices. Today these prices still exist, but you must look for them. In addition, Airtronics now has an RD8000 2.4 that is available for about $229.00 with a receiver. For another approach, Xtreme offers modules and receivers in a combo package for $200.00. You can use your existing transmitter. Of course JR also offers modules for some JR transmitters. These support all the Spektrum receivers using the DSM2 system. And for those of you with unlimited resources (Bubba), Futaba has the 14MZ 2.4 system for just a little over $2,000.00 For me, the paramount advantage is frequency freedom. I fly at several sites where frequency control is sparse to non existent. At some sites, it is not uncommon for a flyer, usually accompanied by his children, to walk out on the field and attempt to fly without regard to frequency control. I like the security of knowing they cannot affect my operations. I also like the capability of stopping anywhere, anytime and launching my DLG or E Blaster with impunity. The 2.4 system basically permits the world to be your flying field. Additionally, I fly quite a few electric powered models of all sizes and shapes and like the fact that the 2.4 system does not permit motor glitches to affect operation (the glitches still are generated, but their frequency does not affect the 2.4 system). So come on in the water's fine. Start modestly if you prefer, but do it! PS: Here is the 2.4 model list to date: Supra, Rogue 2.0, Blaster, E Blaster, Twin Star, Traveler, Robbie, Slo-Stick, .40 Cub, Small Cub, Dart and soon ICON, XP5 and SBXC. Don Richmond San Diego, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hilaunch.com **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
[RCSE] 2008 Soaring Masters
I'm trying to find the dates for the Soaring Masters Event at Muncie this Fall but the AMA calendar doesn't list it. Any body help? TIA, Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? Ask Don Quixote
Time dated offer!!! Wow ,, a great deal on new wave products AND support for the USA F3J Team. Guys,,, It dont get any better than that!!! HURRY UP,,, you only have till March 10, 08 for the Airtronics offer. BUT,,, Look at all those planes he sells!! Thanks again Alberto!! Richard Burnoski - Original Message - From: Alberto To: R/C Soaring.COM Webmaster ; soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Jim Monaco ; Daryl Perkins ; Mike Lee ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Richard Burnoski Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? Ask Don Quixote $229.95 for Airtronics RDS-8000, 8ch Tx, Rx and battery charger combo. From now until March 10, 2008 Hobby Club will donate $50.00 from each of the sold systems to the US F3J Team attending the 2008 World Championships to be held in Turkey. Andby the way .the Rx antennas are 7-3/4 long rgds, Alberto www.hobbyclub.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 7:17 AM Subject: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? Ask Don Quixote The current 2.4 excitement is partly deserved and partly justified. At the moment it gives rc pilots a new freedom...it has taken frequency consideration and a need for its administration, concern out of the equation of rc soaring...in a way its like there isn't radio waves being used as part of our hobbyits as though we are preparing a free flight airplane, there isn't any thinking about 'channels'. That freedom means that our minds to can shift to other components of the flight when we come to the field...and preparing the flightthe absence of radio. We still have controls to fool with but that's where it stops. Having said that, 72 has worked safely, does work safely and will continue to work safely. Arguments could be made that if anything it will be even safer and easier to use, with the drop in its population of users. Sure the doomsday guy will throw out the possibility that channel-consideration by pilots will be come lax ...making 72 a dangerous gamble. Clothespins and freq boards will come to disrepair and with it the discipline we all learned to respect as gospel on the field. Possible, but not realistic. I highlighted at the moment because 2.4 is in its sailplane infancy, ( and actually the term 2.4 is only a nickname for these kind of systems because they all currently share the same rf frequency right now there are at least two kinds of systems using 2.4) we can't tell for sure what the future holds when the 2.4 population expands course with the population of sailplane pilots decreasing as our age increases:-( What price that freedom? About $650 for the TX and one RX. Gordy It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance.
Re: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? - COST?
These two reasons are why I like the 2.4 system. And I will add one other, the response really is better. For the first time in my flying the plane is doing what I want when I want it, I don't have to compensate by anticipating the lag. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also like the capability of stopping anywhere, anytime and launching my DLG or E Blaster with impunity. The 2.4 system basically permits the world to be your flying field. Additionally, I fly quite a few electric powered models of all sizes and shapes and like the fact that the 2.4 system does not permit motor glitches to affect operation (the glitches still are generated, but their frequency does not affect the 2.4 system).
[RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? - Lag...okay now we are getting silly
These two reasons are why I like the 2.4 system. And I will add one other, the response really is better. For the first time in my flying the plane is doing what I want when I want it, I don't have to compensate by anticipating the lag. Okay I was waiting for this one. With a standard FM system, not even a PCM System (which by the way is about the same as a 2.4 system...the word 'digital' is sort of a hint there)...with a standard FM system the time between a guy moving his thumb and the servo beginning its movement is not visible to they eye...as it looks immediate. However the indication above implies that the delay in the information getting to the servos from the stick is with none digital TX systems, would cause some sort of delay in the now pay attentionthe movement of the airframe. Movement of the airframe is not 'only' a function of servo moving servos. AIRSPEED is a bigger factor and one that varies the lag in response way more than any micro second change in the information time from thumb to servo. The next factor is servo speed 'while under their normal surface duties'. A far cheaper way to increase 'response' would have been to get digital servos. Lets not add fluff to an the benefits of a system which in the end is just another way to control models. And in the end the question to the above gleeful reason to own a digital systemhow many contests will that faster response time help you win this seasonmight be interesting to track compared to last season. Likely any wins won't be due to improved flying skills, it will have to be the result of that signal lag which caused slower responses of your sailplane ;-). Freedom is the big reason. Freedom to turn on anywhere, the park, that empty lot, the space next to a factorya park. Gordy pretty quick response, hey? **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)
Re: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? - Lag...okay now we are getting silly
A far cheaper way to increase 'response' would have been to get digital servos. and a 5-cell RX battery pack. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? - Lag...okay now we are getting silly
Or 2 A123 in series ;) hehehe -Original Message- From: Jon Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 2:46 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? - Lag...okay now we are getting silly A far cheaper way to increase 'response' would have been to get digital servos. and a 5-cell RX battery pack. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1315 - Release Date: 3/6/2008 9:07 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1315 - Release Date: 3/6/2008 9:07 AM RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? - Lag...okay now we are getting silly
The lag argument is well...goofy. I have heard the Heli guys say they notice a difference, which actually makes some sense. The Heli is far more susceptible to lag than perhaps any other radio controlled device. I have also heard the IMAC guys say they notice a difference. Maybe they do...but I kinda doubt it. We dial in Expo to reduce the stick glitch, yet we are told that response is a bigger deal than perhaps it is. Like I saidgoofy. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:32:34 -0500Subject: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? - Lag...okay now we are getting silly To: Soaring@airage.com These two reasons are why I like the 2.4 system. And I will add one other, the response really is better. For the first time in my flying the plane is doing what I want when I want it, I don't have to compensate by anticipating the lag. Okay I was waiting for this one. With a standard FM system, not even a PCM System (which by the way is about the same as a 2.4 system...the word 'digital' is sort of a hint there)...with a standard FM system the time between a guy moving his thumb and the servo beginning its movement is not visible to they eye...as it looks immediate. However the indication above implies that the delay in the information getting to the servos from the stick is with none digital TX systems, would cause some sort of delay in the now pay attentionthe movement of the airframe. Movement of the airframe is not 'only' a function of servo moving servos. AIRSPEED is a bigger factor and one that varies the lag in response way more than any micro second change in the information time from thumb to servo. The next factor is servo speed 'while under their normal surface duties'. A far cheaper way to increase 'response' would have been to get digital servos. Lets not add fluff to an the benefits of a system which in the end is just another way to control models. And in the end the question to the above gleeful reason to own a digital systemhow many contests will that faster response time help you win this seasonmight be interesting to track compared to last season. Likely any wins won't be due to improved flying skills, it will have to be the result of that signal lag which caused slower responses of your sailplane ;-). Freedom is the big reason. Freedom to turn on anywhere, the park, that empty lot, the space next to a factorya park. Gordypretty quick response, hey? It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance. _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008
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Re: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? - Lag...okay now we are getting silly
I will add this and leave it alone. My flying went from constant correcting of over correcting to having the plane respond the way I wanted it. And nothing, not practice, faster servos, expo, dual rates, speed, etc... improved the 'smoothness' of my flying like the spektrum. If you guys don't feel it that's fine, but the same guys that were questioning the viability of 2.4 in carbon fused sailplanes are now touting its merits. I guess someone like Joe Wurts would have to admit there is a difference for some of you guys to know that it really is a better response. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *These two reasons are why I like the 2.4 system. And I will add one other, the response really is better. For the first time in my flying the plane is doing what I want when I want it, I don't have to compensate by anticipating the lag.* ** ** Okay I was waiting for this one. With a standard FM system, not even a PCM System (which by the way is about the same as a 2.4 system...the word 'digital' is sort of a hint there)...with a standard FM system the time between a guy moving his thumb and the servo beginning its movement is not visible to they eye...as it looks immediate. However the indication above implies that the delay in the information getting to the servos from the stick is with none digital TX systems, would cause some sort of delay in the now pay attentionthe movement of the airframe. Movement of the airframe is not 'only' a function of servo moving servos. AIRSPEED is a bigger factor and one that varies the lag in response way more than any micro second change in the information time from thumb to servo. The next factor is servo speed 'while under their normal surface duties'. A far cheaper way to increase 'response' would have been to get digital servos. Lets not add fluff to an the benefits of a system which in the end is just another way to control models. And in the end the question to the above gleeful reason to own a digital systemhow many contests will that faster response time help you win this seasonmight be interesting to track compared to last season. Likely any wins won't be due to improved flying skills, it will have to be the result of that signal lag which caused slower responses of your sailplane ;-). Freedom is the big reason. Freedom to turn on anywhere, the park, that empty lot, the space next to a factorya park. Gordy pretty quick response, hey? -- It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance.http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301
Re: [RCSE] What's the big deal about 2.4? - Lag...okay now we are getting ...
Yes!!! The first time I put it in my Marauder Woody, I got 5 hours out of the 8 I was looking for! Not sure what I would have gotten with 72mhz...and a little more slope wind. Gordy :-) In a message dated 3/7/2008 12:47:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the various bits of information that came out when I first read about 2.4 was a supposed increase in flying time. Purportedly this was due to a more efficient transmission versus 72mHz. Is anyone experiencing longer flight times between transmitter charges with their 2.4gHz system? **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301)