[RCSE] F3B field sound/light system picture
SOARING COMMUNITY Im looking for pictures of the F3B system you use and set up at the field that will display the pilot flying letter / number,corresponding lights and also contains the bell, buzzer,whistle sound system.Im also looking for pictures of the cabinet for storing and field use. Please send whatever picture you have even if your system doesnt include working time clock and visual lap counter. Or please give me an email for someone here or in Europe who might be able to help me.Thanks Richard M. Burnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)
Greg and Gordy, I am likewise a fan of these little beeper/finder/battery monitors. This one from Sky King RC Products is my favorite. http://www.skykingrcproducts.com/accessories/lostmodel/lost_rc_model_alarm.html This is the only one I hav been able to get to work with both FM and PCM. But I have not been able to get it to work with 2.4 GHz. Spektrum receivers. Gordy, you say you can make it work. Have you actually tried? If you have been successful, perhaps you can give us a step by step. The procedure I used for PCM did not work for 2.4 GHz Spektrum. Ed Anderson Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:57:12 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com Subject: Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-) Message-ID: ---1206417432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is the same as with PCM, all you have to do is program a failsafe function to the channel you have your plane finder plugged into to fire the response. So if you are in Aux 4 for instance, program full travel the other direction, that way when the TX is turned off simulating a lost signal your device will trigger. Gordy In a message dated 3/24/2008 9:44:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the past on my 72MHz radios I have used a device in my planes which beeps when it loses the signal from the transmitter. This has been handy to find a plane in the woods and to signal me when the receiver is bad(saved one plane when the receiver was bad) This device plugs into a spare channel. The problem is that I have switched to the JR9303 2.4GHz radio but with its failsafe this device always gets a signal so it doesn't beep when I turn the transmitter off. Anybody experienced this? Is there something new that will work with the 2.4GHZ radios? Greg
Re: [RCSE] F3B field sound/light system picture
In a message dated 03/25/2008 3:13:12 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SOARING COMMUNITY Im looking for pictures of the F3B system you use and set up at the field that will display the pilot flying letter / number,corresponding lights and also contains the bell, buzzer,whistle sound system.Im also looking for pictures of the cabinet for storing and field use. Please send whatever picture you have even if your system doesnt include working time clock and visual lap counter. Or please give me an email for someone here or in Europe who might be able to help me.Thanks Richard M. Burnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rich, Go here and check out these photos of the 2005 F3B Champsionships in Lappenranta. I think there are several of the equipment you're interested in... _http://home.cyber.ee/arne/f3b-album/_ (http://home.cyber.ee/arne/f3b-album/) Bill Wingstedt **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301)
Re: [RCSE] Looking for Carbon plate?
My usual place to get CF strips for spars is Aerospace Composite Products http://www.acp-composites.com/acp-gp.htm Good prices excellent service. But The Composite Store has more on the thinner side http://www.cstsales.com/carbon_plate.html I've kept the link, but have not ever ordered from them. Tom Koszuta Western New York Sailplane and Electric Flyers Buffalo, NY - Original Message - heavily cropped From: Craig Allen So I'm looking for some pre-made Carbon sheet 1/8 or 3/16 thick 2 to 3 inches wide and maybe 1 ft long to cut new control horns and bell-cranks out of. So if you know of a supplier I would greatly appreciate it :-)
Re: [RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:04:37AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |This is the only one I hav been able to get to work with both FM and |PCM. But I have not been able to get it to work with 2.4 GHz. |Spektrum receivers. I like how they say it -- NOTE: This is the only Lost Model Locator of its type and size available that will work with most PCM systems! ... of it's type basically guarantees that no matter what new products come out, this statement is still accurate, because they won't be of it's type -- they'll be a different type, even if they do exactly the same thing. (Still, looks very nice and small. And it also looks like it *should* work with 2.4 GHz gear if you follow their programming instructions, but of course I've not tried it.) |Gordy, you say you can make it work. Have you actually tried? If you |have been successful, perhaps you can give us a step by step. The |procedure I used for PCM did not work for 2.4 GHz Spektrum. This will work fine with PPM, PCM or 2.4 GHz stuff, and you won't have to do any special programming to make it work -- http://www.hobbico.com/radioaccys/hcap0335.html The lost plane alarm will be activated if the servo channel it's on stops getting pulses, which is what works with normal PPM stuff and doesn't work with PCM or 2.4 GHz gear. However, the transmiter inactivity signal (which sounds the same as the lost plane alarm) will still work even with PCM or 2.4 GHz -- if you stop moving the sticks (or if you go into and stay in failsafe), that channel will be idle (not changing, though it may still be getting servo pulses), and once it's been idle for a minute, the alarm start beeping as if your plane was lost. And yes, I've tried it. The downside is that your plane will get upset and start beeping if you leave it turned on and idle for a few minutes -- like when you put it down between flights. Most annoying. I wish they'd made the timeout five minutes instead. -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] You fight until hell freezes over. Then you fight on the ice. --Richard Russell RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)
SkyKing here. So far we do not have a solution for Spectrum 2.4GHz systems. They all employ a fail safe which cannot be turned off. This defeats our locator. The Futaba 2.4GHz 6 channel 2.4 GHz allows us to use the gear channel on/off toggle switch to turn our locator on or off without the need for turning the TX off. I have never tested the Hobbico lost model device but it might work with your 2.4 GHz TX. It triggers on when the device does not detect any stick movement for a period of time. But, I'm not certain if it will work since I have never tested one. We will have a unit at some point but at the moment it is a back burner project. Ed SkyKing RC Products, LLC - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 4:04 AM Subject: [RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-) Greg and Gordy, I am likewise a fan of these little beeper/finder/battery monitors. This one from Sky King RC Products is my favorite. http://www.skykingrcproducts.com/accessories/lostmodel/lost_rc_model_alarm.html This is the only one I hav been able to get to work with both FM and PCM. But I have not been able to get it to work with 2.4 GHz. Spektrum receivers. Gordy, you say you can make it work. Have you actually tried? If you have been successful, perhaps you can give us a step by step. The procedure I used for PCM did not work for 2.4 GHz Spektrum. Ed Anderson Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:57:12 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com Subject: Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-) Message-ID: ---1206417432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is the same as with PCM, all you have to do is program a failsafe function to the channel you have your plane finder plugged into to fire the response. So if you are in Aux 4 for instance, program full travel the other direction, that way when the TX is turned off simulating a lost signal your device will trigger. Gordy In a message dated 3/24/2008 9:44:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the past on my 72MHz radios I have used a device in my planes which beeps when it loses the signal from the transmitter. This has been handy to find a plane in the woods and to signal me when the receiver is bad(saved one plane when the receiver was bad) This device plugs into a spare channel. The problem is that I have switched to the JR9303 2.4GHz radio but with its failsafe this device always gets a signal so it doesn't beep when I turn the transmitter off. Anybody experienced this? Is there something new that will work with the 2.4GHZ radios? Greg No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1341 - Release Date: 3/24/2008 3:03 PM -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1901 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] A possible sport tube alternative
These are used to haul video tripods by air, they only open at one end, but that end can be adjusted in a 5-inch range up and down. The prices looked good. you can find more of the same in even larger sizes at www.markertek.com Example: http://www.markertek.com/SearchProduct.asp?item=BFC291off=0sort=prods kuonly=1search=BFC295pagesize=20 ** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301)
[RCSE] A possible sport tube alternative...NOT ;-)
Sorry Charlie! But this isn't close to an alternative to a Sportube. Anyone who has actually used a Sportube knows why too. This might be an alternative to a cardboard box, or one of the plastic sign material boxes...except that its around so way too much space would be wasted trying to fit wings and thingsnot sure which planes you think might have a Vertical short enough to fit something like this thing. Okay here is why, the number one reason actually listed one nite on Late NightSportubes became the number one choice of discerning sailplane contest pilots because.they collapse. You get off the airline, pick up your Sportube, drag it to the rental car using its conveniently placed handles, rolling it on its wheels...only to find the car's back seat doesn't go down, and even it the backs do, theres no way a box of that girth and length is going to fit! What to do? :-) You undo the TSA padlock, slip the top off the Sportube, remove your plane parts, Plane Perch components and miscellaneous tape and tools...of course your Sirius charger...lay then on the back seat of the rental car, then collapse the Sportube to its 40 or so, and slip it in the trunk...adding your laptop case and check bag which has your TX and underwear for the weekend. You can tune a guitar, but you can't tune a fish...Charlie! :-) And are you ever going to show up at a contest in Florida while I visiting Gordy Orlando tonite :-) In a message dated 3/25/2008 7:07:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These are used to haul video tripods by air, they only open at one end, but that end can be adjusted in a 5-inch range up and down. The prices looked good. you can find more of the same in even larger sizes at www.markertek.com Example: http://www.markertek.com/SearchProduct.asp?item=BFC291off=0sort=prods kuonly=1search=BFC295pagesize=20 ** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000 301) **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301)
[RCSE] Re: Special Sportube TSA lock now offered!
-Gordy, I travel with Sportubes internationally and regular locks are OK. However, you have to be prepared to unlock Sportubes for inspection as you're checking in.- Hi Steve Lets see in the last month I've been to Jamaica, Dubai, Mauitius, even Alabama and Orlando...this year, Caracas, Bahamas, many places in Mexicoetc...always with my Sportube, so kind of have a bit of experience of traveling around the globe and USA on airlines...weekly ;-). There is a very political reason to use the TSA lock and of course that's because its the 'official' lock approved for airline use by our H.S. Maybe they just know me by now, but so far the best way to go is the TSA lock, but until now you had to make some sort of adapter for using one with Sportubesnow with the new Sportube special cable lock, it makes things a bit easier. Use that C Clip they send with the Sportube as a 'close' limiter. So where have you been flying your sailplanes when you travel internationally with a Sportube? Where do you carry your TX? And which sailplanes do you usually carry with you? Gordy -- Gordysoar Gordysoar's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=12801 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=836538 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Special Sportube TSA lock now offered!
Howdy Gordy, For the last 5 years I've made an annual pilgrimage to Europe to fly in one of the finest Alpine soaring venues: Hahnenmoospass in Switzerland. Alpine flying is at the exact opposite end of the world from you flat lander types (of which I am one as well). Typical landings are uphill and down wind. Neve a dull moment and you learn how to make an overnight repair on a broken sailplane real quick. In addition, we have flown at the Interlaken aerotow for the last few years and typically include another country as well on our trips e.g. Germany, Italy, etc. Airlines have included Air France, Delta, Alitalia and a few others I can't recall at the moment plus local Europeans like CitiJet. Having a wife and child allows 6 pieces of luggage: typically 3 Sportubes, 1 big cardboard box with TX, flight batteries, chargers, etc. and 2 suite cases with clothes, v-tails, etc. Planes on the last trip: 4 meter Lunak (2 meter cardboard box in lieu of one Sportube), small Minimoa, electric Escape, electric Graphite and another 2.5 meter electric glider...a something 2000. I fabricated some aluminum stops so the Sportubes cannot close beyond a certain point. I also attached a cable system to keep the two halves from sliding open. All this is to insure that if the locks were ever cut open or not fully engaged in the two case halves, the case would remain secure. Most of the time TSA agents just wipe the case with that special sniffer paper and let them go. Last year I had to open the big cardboard box. I can't remember the last time I had to open a Sportube for inspection. Maybe they figure that a middle age guy with wife and adorable daughter in tow pose no great threat. On the other hand, a single guy who spends a lot of time in search of dirty beaches might raise some security concerns! That's my story and I'm sticking with it. Join us this summer: we leave in mid-July for 2 weeks. Regards, Steve -- SteveR SteveR's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=7591 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=836538 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: A possible sport tube alternative
In a message dated 3/25/08 6:51:11 PM, Soaring@airage.com writes: A possible sport tube alternative Gordy, please, try some decaf. :-) It looked interesting to me because it is inexpensive, as much as a third less than a Sport Tube. Some of the models on that page will take a TSA lock as well, they even sell the locks at the same site. It's a high density HDPE plastic that should hold up okay, We ship $5k tripods and heads in them. Is it for everyone, no. Nor for every model. For planes with removable v tails, it would probably work. They come in various sizes. If you customize the insert you put in it, a plane with a modest v stab might be made to snuggle into it. It has a flat side, some are octagonal ... so it can sit still and not roll. It doesn't open in the middle, which is bad. It cannot be collapsed by more than five inches, which may save some models from too-clumsy TSA goons. What the Sport Tube has going for it is, among other things, it often qqualifies for an airline shipping discount as it usually gets called sports equipment because it was for hauling skis and the like. For someone on a budget, though, this might be something to look at. For me, the tube would be worth more than any three of my planes plus their radios:-) Go to markertek.com and check it out for yourself, is all I wanted to offer. Then make up your own mind. Mark ** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301)
Re: [RCSE] Looking for Carbon plate?
I havent found a shop in the US that sells thicker panels, but RG has them. Shop: http://www.r-g.de/en/ Link to page with Carbon Panels: http://shop.ezentrum.de/2501444/OQ2JXpoD7TWdDt0GvWTsUaOyw1GeJj/4DCGI/ezshop?action=wgruppenstartwarengruppenlist=4124Suchid=0manufacturer=Suchstartpos=1PageType=warengruppen#4124 Tom Koszuta wrote: My usual place to get CF strips for spars is Aerospace Composite Products http://www.acp-composites.com/acp-gp.htm Good prices excellent service. But The Composite Store has more on the thinner side http://www.cstsales.com/carbon_plate.html I've kept the link, but have not ever ordered from them. Tom Koszuta Western New York Sailplane and Electric Flyers Buffalo, NY - Original Message - heavily cropped *From:* Craig Allen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So I'm looking for some pre-made Carbon sheet 1/8 or 3/16 thick 2 to 3 inches wide and maybe 1 ft long to cut new control horns and bell-cranks out of. So if you know of a supplier I would greatly appreciate it :-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] A possible sport tube alternative
Do these come in any sizes larger than 10 diameter. Most wings are approx 10 chord, so something larger would be required. Here are some that will work if you have 3 panel wings.. max length 46 to 50 http://www.exploreproducts.com/skbgolfclubcase4913.htm http://www.amazon.com/SKB-2SKB-4812WS-Standard-Golf-Travel/dp/B0007VNZDG http://www.golfhq.com/catalog/hardcasetomatotravelcover-p-166.html http://www.golfhq.com/catalog/golfguardtravelcover-p-1705.html Longer cases: (custom made too) http://www.keyboardcases.com/ http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gator-88-Key-Slimline-ATA-Keyboard-Case?sku=544763src=3WFRWXXZYXSEM=0CAWELAID=26046402
Re: [RCSE] A possible sport tube alternative
I checked out the links and while I saw the sizes, I didn't see the part where they collapse down to fit in a rental car trunk. Can you point me to that part of the website? You see I travel a lot with my sailplanes and could use a case with wheels, and handles, big enough to fit two unlimited ships, my charger, all the pieces and the steel pole that make up my Plane Perch...and fits the no charge exception for sporting goods at a glance. Oh yeah it has to protect my planes when the case makes it part way up the conveyor to the airliner's luggage hold, the falls off to the ground about 10' or so. Thanks Gordy In a message dated 3/26/2008 12:29:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do these come in any sizes larger than 10 diameter. Most wings are approx 10 chord, so something larger would be required. Here are some that will work if you have 3 panel wings.. max length 46 to 50 _http://www.exploreproducts.com/skbgolfclubcase4913.htm_ (http://www.exploreproducts.com/skbgolfclubcase4913.htm) _http://www.amazon.com/SKB-2SKB-4812WS-Standard-Golf-Travel/dp/B0007VNZDG_ (http://www.amazon.com/SKB-2SKB-4812WS-Standard-Golf-Travel/dp/B0007VNZDG) _http://www.golfhq.com/catalog/hardcasetomatotravelcover-p-166.html_ (http://www.golfhq.com/catalog/hardcasetomatotravelcover-p-166.html) _http://www.golfhq.com/catalog/golfguardtravelcover-p-1705.html_ (http://www.golfhq.com/catalog/golfguardtravelcover-p-1705.html) Longer cases: (custom made too) _http://www.keyboardcases.com/_ (http://www.keyboardcases.com/) _http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gator-88-Key-Slimline-ATA-Keyboard-Cas e?sku=544763src=3WFRWXXZYXSEM=0CAWELAID=26046402_ (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gator-88-Key-Slimline-ATA-Keyboard-Case?sku=544763src=3WFRWXX; ZYXSEM=0CAWELAID=26046402) **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301)
