[RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?....Thanks! (F3J World Planes)

2008-07-01 Thread GordySoar
_http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm_ 
(http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm) 
 
Here's the  kind of list that we have all dreamed would be posted  after 
every USA TD contest ever held in history! :-).
 
Take a look guys, it will show you whats considered hot in F3J right  
now...or at least what was available :-).

Gordy



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Re: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?....Thanks! (F3J World Planes)

2008-07-01 Thread GordySoar
But wait...

Didn't you get that link from that website that you hate and everyone
can post anonymous?  :-) Glad we don't have that problem here on RCSE.
 :-)

Gordy  :-)


On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:40 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm
>
> Here's the  kind of list that we have all dreamed would be posted after
> every USA TD contest ever held in history! :-).
>
> Take a look guys, it will show you whats considered hot in F3J right
> now...or at least what was available :-).
> Gordy
>
>
> 
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[RCSE] "Chaos and Frustration at the F3J Worlds!"

2008-07-01 Thread GordySoar
Hi Guys,
 
Apparently the conditions are crazy!  Cody took a zero by not making  it back 
to the 'in bounds' area...Rich took some kind of penalty hit, maybe from  a 
late toss

JW's NZ boys are staying tougha lot more rounds to go  with only 1 throw 
out...and I think Rich needs two :-(.
 
DP is holding positionright now its all about making the fly  offs.
_http://www.f3jturkey.com/leadersf.php_ 
(http://www.f3jturkey.com/leadersf.php) 
 
 
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[RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?....Thanks! (F3J World Planes)

2008-07-01 Thread Ed Anderson
Great info Gordy, thanks

Best regards,
Ed Anderson
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[RCSE] Re: Worlds.... AJ McGowan Rules

2008-07-01 Thread Craig Allen
After 4 rounds Junior Pilot AJ McGowan is perfect with four 1000 point rounds 
:-)

 I hear talk about a crazy Beaver Hat intimidating the other pilots :-)))

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys,
  
 Apparently the conditions are crazy!  Cody took a zero by not making  it back 
to the 'in bounds' area...Rich took some kind of penalty hit, maybe from  a 
late toss

JW's NZ boys are staying tougha lot more rounds to go  with only 1 throw 
out...and I think Rich needs two :-(.
  
 DP is holding positionright now its all about making the fly  offs.
 http://www.f3jturkey.com/leadersf.php
  
  
 Gordy




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RE: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?....

2008-07-01 Thread chris
Gordy,

As a designer, I look at the overall list as more of a Manufacturer's
advertising list.  Think about it, each plane costs over $2500 to have
in flying condition, and each is like a Formula 1/Indy racer in it's own
regard.

For information on planes, I would be interested in 3 views (probably
already available), weights, airfoils, etc.  However, are any of the
planes "Original Designs"?  DP mentioned he was building a moldie a
while back, and I was looking forward to hearing of it's results.

Are the planes so close in performance that differences do not matter?

Years ago, F3B Worlds used to distribute data on ships, new approaches
to old problems etc.  I compiled a DVD back in 2001 of IHLGF data and it
was distributed.  I an going to the German Open and home to take alot of
pictures because how we address design issues for US conditions is alot
different from the design conditions in Europe.

I would love to see more regarding planes, setups, etc.

Chris








>  Original Message 
> Subject: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By
> Whom?Thanks!  (F3J World Planes)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, July 01, 2008 3:40 am
> To: Soaring@airage.com
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> _http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm_
> (http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm)
>
> Here's the  kind of list that we have all dreamed would be posted  after
> every USA TD contest ever held in history! :-).
>
> Take a look guys, it will show you whats considered hot in F3J right
> now...or at least what was available :-).
> Gordy
> **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for
> fuel-efficient used cars.  
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Re: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?....

2008-07-01 Thread John Erickson
Chris,

That's more public info on one page than I've seen in awhile, and you want
more :-)  I think your analogy to Formula 1 is a good one.  I'd bet that 95%
of all glider guiders could not tell a difference between the top planes,
especially given varying conditions when they would be flying the plane.

The old sales trick of hooking up a glider into a thermal and then passing
the transmitter is always effective.  "Man, this thing flies great!"

I've flown many of the designs listed and the differences between each one
are not pronounced.  A Supra and a Perfect you can tell, but when they are
ballasted to the same wing loading it gets a little murkier.  The Experience
and the Perfect are really close, as is the Aspire (maybe a bit more float).

The Espada is slippery, a little quicker in getting back from downwind but
it like to be flown slightly faster due to the planform and airfoil.

Like I said, the differences are not that pronounced and the decision at the
top of the launch is WAY more important than the plane.  Still the guys who
are there have made their decision on what plane they like based on their
own preferences.  But it's not like that formula stays true forever.
Remember the Icon?  The Sharon?  Where are they in this list?

JE
--
Erickson Architects
John R. Erickson, AIA


> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:02:13 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Soaring@airage.com
> Subject: RE: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?
> 
> Gordy,
> 
> As a designer, I look at the overall list as more of a Manufacturer's
> advertising list.  Think about it, each plane costs over $2500 to have
> in flying condition, and each is like a Formula 1/Indy racer in it's own
> regard.
> 
> For information on planes, I would be interested in 3 views (probably
> already available), weights, airfoils, etc.  However, are any of the
> planes "Original Designs"?  DP mentioned he was building a moldie a
> while back, and I was looking forward to hearing of it's results.
> 
> Are the planes so close in performance that differences do not matter?
> 
> Years ago, F3B Worlds used to distribute data on ships, new approaches
> to old problems etc.  I compiled a DVD back in 2001 of IHLGF data and it
> was distributed.  I an going to the German Open and home to take alot of
> pictures because how we address design issues for US conditions is alot
> different from the design conditions in Europe.
> 
> I would love to see more regarding planes, setups, etc.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By
>> Whom?Thanks!  (F3J World Planes)
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Tue, July 01, 2008 3:40 am
>> To: Soaring@airage.com
>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> _http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm_
>> (http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm)
>> 
>> Here's the  kind of list that we have all dreamed would be posted  after
>> every USA TD contest ever held in history! :-).
>> 
>> Take a look guys, it will show you whats considered hot in F3J right
>> now...or at least what was available :-).
>> Gordy
>> **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for
>> fuel-efficient used cars.
>> (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
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[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #11352

2008-07-01 Thread WSnowfall
dr dave
 
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Re: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?....

2008-07-01 Thread GordySoar
The Sharon?  Where are they in this  list?
 
Its not on the list because of its weight...but its a F3J list.  Not a  TD 
list, it got off the F3J list because of the need for late evening fast tow  
times.. Out of all the planes I own, you'd have to pry my Sharon from my dying  
hands before I'd give it up for TD. :-)
Gordy 
Milwaukee tonite.



In a message dated 7/1/2008 2:36:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Chris,

That's more public info on one page than I've seen in  awhile, and you want
more :-)  I think your analogy to Formula 1 is a  good one.  I'd bet that 95%
of all glider guiders could not tell a  difference between the top planes,
especially given varying conditions when  they would be flying the plane.

The old sales trick of hooking up a  glider into a thermal and then passing
the transmitter is always  effective.  "Man, this thing flies great!"

I've flown many of the  designs listed and the differences between each one
are not  pronounced.  A Supra and a Perfect you can tell, but when they  are
ballasted to the same wing loading it gets a little murkier.  The  Experience
and the Perfect are really close, as is the Aspire (maybe a bit  more float).

The Espada is slippery, a little quicker in getting back  from downwind but
it like to be flown slightly faster due to the planform  and airfoil.

Like I said, the differences are not that pronounced and  the decision at the
top of the launch is WAY more important than the  plane.  Still the guys who
are there have made their decision on what  plane they like based on their
own preferences.  But it's not like  that formula stays true forever.
Remember the Icon?  The Sharon?   Where are they in this list?

JE
--
Erickson Architects
John R.  Erickson, AIA


> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:  Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:02:13 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:  Soaring@airage.com
> Subject: RE: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect  Plane's Flown By Whom?
> 
> Gordy,
> 
> As a  designer, I look at the overall list as more of a Manufacturer's
>  advertising list.  Think about it, each plane costs over $2500 to  have
> in flying condition, and each is like a Formula 1/Indy racer in  it's own
> regard.
> 
> For information on planes, I would  be interested in 3 views (probably
> already available), weights,  airfoils, etc.  However, are any of the
> planes "Original  Designs"?  DP mentioned he was building a moldie a
> while back,  and I was looking forward to hearing of it's results.
> 
> Are the  planes so close in performance that differences do not matter?
>  
> Years ago, F3B Worlds used to distribute data on ships, new  approaches
> to old problems etc.  I compiled a DVD back in 2001 of  IHLGF data and it
> was distributed.  I an going to the German Open  and home to take alot of
> pictures because how we address design issues  for US conditions is alot
> different from the design conditions in  Europe.
> 
> I would love to see more regarding planes, setups,  etc.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>>  Original Message  
>> Subject: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown  By
>> Whom?Thanks!  (F3J World Planes)
>> From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Tue, July 01, 2008 3:40 am
>> To:  Soaring@airage.com
>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  _http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm_
>>  (http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm)
>> 
>> Here's  the  kind of list that we have all dreamed would be posted   after
>> every USA TD contest ever held in history! :-).
>>  
>> Take a look guys, it will show you whats considered hot in F3J  right
>> now...or at least what was available :-).
>>  Gordy
>> **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos  for
>> fuel-efficient used cars.
>>  (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
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[RCSE] "This just in from the Worlds! A NZ Website :-)."

2008-07-01 Thread GordySoar
Gypsy is Les Stockley's wife, she's got  some updates on the website abouut 
the NZ team's experiences...coached by  JW.
Les and Gyspy were my NZ connection for soaring while I visited  there a few 
years back.
Gypsy is very much in to Scrap Booking.
Take a look,
Gordy
 
If you want any details of the  Kiwi teams adventures at the WC you can find 
them here as I get the  info
 
_http://seeshareremember.blogspot.com/_ 
(http://seeshareremember.blogspot.com/) 
 
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Re: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?.... Who Cares ?

2008-07-01 Thread Craig Allen
What's the big deal about knowing what plane is being flown? 

You give most top pilots a F'n Brick and they will get their 9:55 and a 100.. 
So your an average pilot and you think buying the latest greatest plane is 
going to put you in the top ten? I don't think so.. Did you really do that much 
better with your prissy $2,000 Icon than if you had practiced with your $100 
Oly2 ???

Why did Gordy do 50 places better than me with the exact same plane? Skills 
Baby.. :-)))

Craig... PS... Wearing my Team Kiwi Shirt all week... Go USA Juniors and Team Z 
:-)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Sharon?  Where are they in this  list?
  
 Its not on the list because of its weight...but its a F3J list.  Not a  TD 
list, it got off the F3J list because of the need for late evening fast tow  
times.. Out of all the planes I own, you'd have to pry my Sharon from my dying  
hands before I'd give it up for TD. :-)
 Gordy 
 Milwaukee tonite.




RE: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?.... Who Cares ?

2008-07-01 Thread Klaus Weiss
'Cause you suck???!!! :-)

 

Klaus K Weiss

Airsports R.C.

www.airsportsrc.com.au

  _  

From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2008 3:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?
Who Cares ?

 

Why did Gordy do 50 places better than me with the exact same plane?