[RCSE] Removing old covering
I have some 40 year old covering to remove. Any suggestions on how? Craig
RE: [RCSE] Removing old covering
I guess it depends on the covering. what kind is it? how was it adhered to the model? My first thought is heat gun, but only if its a monokote type covering. Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:02:24 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [RCSE] Removing old coveringTo: soaring@airage.com I have some 40 year old covering to remove. Any suggestions on how?Craig _ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/
[RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
It's hard to tell what type of covering it is... It's over 40 years old so it can't be any type of iron on, Its not silk, but does apear to be dope based Craig
RE: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
Craig, If it is dope based, then acetone will work fine. However, any color in the dope will probably remain in the wood or seep into the wood. I might try nail polish remover, as it has some MEK, which like acetone, works but is less volatile and may contain some nitromethane. You might try methylene chloride or chloroform. I do not thin isopropyl alcohol will work, but perhaps some mineral spirits. Do remember that if there is any foam, then all this stuff is useless. I have a Friend who works alot with nitrate dope and tissue who I will try to contact for more info. He is a free flighter from 40 years ago! Chris Original Message Subject: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info From: Craig Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, August 18, 2008 7:49 am To: soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com It's hard to tell what type of covering it is... It's over 40 years old so it can't be any type of iron on, Its not silk, but does apear to be dope based Craig RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Removing ols covering
I think Kurt Z. figired it out It's silkspan and its painted with Hobby-Poxy. That's why lacquer thinner removes a little of the paint but does nothing to soften it. Although it does come off the bamboo rather nicely So I guess I'm going to have to use the two 20 year old cuties as Brian Chan suggested :-))) Actually I have a friend who has some 6' long 8 wide sanding belts. I'm going to glue them to my work table and make one big ass sanding block...
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At 9:26 AM -0700 8/18/08, Craig Allen wrote: I think Kurt Z. figired it out It's silkspan and its painted with Hobby-Poxy. That's why lacquer thinner removes a little of the paint but does nothing to soften it. Although it does come off the bamboo rather nicely So I guess I'm going to have to use the two 20 year old cuties as Brian Chan suggested :-))) Actually I have a friend who has some 6' long 8 wide sanding belts. I'm going to glue them to my work table and make one big ass sanding block... I am sure a propane torch will do the job Brian -- Brian Chan, An Electric Airplane Junkie @ San Mateo.Ca.USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Removing ols covering
Speaking of torches Brian When are you going to start having tours of your garage? For those of you who don't know, Brian's Garage-shop is like a modelers fantasy come true. Imagine the biggest best hobby shop in the world and then double it :-) Electrics, gliders, scale gliders, soon to be mine 1/3scale Sig Spacewalker :-) Anything and everything you can imagine and then sum. Craig - Original Message From: B. Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Craig Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:33:14 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Removing ols covering At 9:26 AM -0700 8/18/08, Craig Allen wrote: I think Kurt Z. figired it out It's silkspan and its painted with Hobby-Poxy. That's why lacquer thinner removes a little of the paint but does nothing to soften it. Although it does come off the bamboo rather nicely So I guess I'm going to have to use the two 20 year old cuties as Brian Chan suggested :-))) Actually I have a friend who has some 6' long 8 wide sanding belts. I'm going to glue them to my work table and make one big ass sanding block... I am sure a propane torch will do the job Brian -- Brian Chan, An Electric Airplane Junkie @ San Mateo.Ca.USA
Re: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
At 09:49 AM 8/18/2008, you wrote: It's hard to tell what type of covering it is... It's over 40 years old so it can't be any type of iron on, Its not silk, but does apear to be dope based Craig Skyloft was a popular covering material from the late 60s. Skyloft was a nylon mat material that looked a lot like silkspan but was much stronger. It was applied with dope just like silkspan. I used it to cover several RC pattern models between 1969 and 1974 and even covered a free flight wing with skyloft. If you crashed a built up model covered with skyloft, you never needed a trash bag for the parts after a crash. The skyloft served quite well to contain the parts. :) Chuck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] For Sale - Icon Lite
A friend has a NIB Icon Lite for sale, orange to red blend on tips. red bottom. He wants a $1000, contact Chris Gregg at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig, If it is dope based, then acetone will work fine. However, any color in the dope will probably remain in the wood or seep into the wood. I might try nail polish remover, as it has some MEK, which like acetone, works but is less volatile and may contain some nitromethane. You might try methylene chloride or chloroform. This is a list of some rather nasty chemicals, i.e. carcinogenic, mutanogenic, or simply poisonous. Please to be careful, wear gloves (not latex) and lots and lots of ventilation. Bill Johns Colton, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Hold on there! Carcinogenic, mutanogenic, poisonous! So, should I be worrying about the times (as a kid) that I used acetone as a hand cleaner to remove things like grease and fiberglass resin? Concerned modelers want to know. Well this one at least. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
That's the least of my problems... Didn't you clean old quarters with mercury? used Acetone, Naphtha, jet fuel, and anything else we could find to clean our hands... and the worst of all... Film cleaner (triclorethane 1,1,1) in a ultrasonic tank. Our old house would probably be put on the Superfund list if they ever tested it :-))) - Original Message From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Craig Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:41:23 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info Hold on there! Carcinogenic, mutanogenic, poisonous! So, should I be worrying about the times (as a kid) that I used acetone as a hand cleaner to remove things like grease and fiberglass resin? Concerned modelers want to know. Well this one at least. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
Bill Swingle wrote: Hold on there! Carcinogenic, mutanogenic, poisonous! So, should I be worrying about the times (as a kid) that I used acetone as a hand cleaner to remove things like grease and fiberglass resin? Concerned modelers want to know. Well this one at least. Sheiiish, here we go. I was not referring to acetone. I was pointing at the chlorinated hydrocarbons (methylene chloride or chloroform) and nitromethane. These can be bad actors. Simply because you've used a lot of stuff in the past that we now know is evil and you are still alive doesn't mean it's safe. As chair of the department safety committee I've learned to be anal about certain things. If you smoke tobacco forget everything I've mentioned above, it's already too late. If you don't smoke, have used all those evil chemicals and are still alive, don't think you're getting off free. Do you still have all your hair? Do you hit every one of your landings? Can you sleep 12 hours without having to get up to pee? If you can't answer YES to each of those questions, all those chemicals are getting to you! So There!!! ;-) Cheers, Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Removing old covering, more info
What worked for me was a combination of sanding/buffing discs on a Dremel tool. Friction did cause some monokote color to meld into the surface of the wood, but I was using opaque for the refinish, so it didn't matter in my case. Instead of caustic chems, I have a theory: consider a heavy glove and a chunk of dry ice from the local ice cream shop or megamart. Try rubbing the chunk of dry ice on the edges of the covering. In theory, it should cause the mylar and glue to contract, embrittle, and crack off, the wood should shrug it off, and the glue joints will likely hold if not directly touched. Mark S. ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
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Jerry Shape has asked me to forward this. Have included also the Saturday scores by Bob Massmann. Thanks Jerry, Bob and all Dayton guys for another great contest. Glauco Here are the scores for the DARTS Soaring Challenge Sun Aug 17 1 Marc Gellart 6519 2 Chris Lee 6493 3 Glauco Lago6424 4 Ron Mong 6326 5 Dave Campbell6214 6 Don Harris5720 7 Pat Crosby 4635 8 Bob Massmann 4423 9 Phil Gieseking 4359 10 AJ Bhattacharyya4198 11 Jerry Shape 3992 12 Walt Van Gorder 3590 13 Norm Poti 2320 14 John Lueice 1366 Thanks to all that come Saturday Chris Lee7574 Ron Mong7500 Glauco Lago7450 Barry Anderson6724 Don Harris6619 Pat Crosby6199 Mark Gallart 6076 Phil Gieseking6050 Norman Poti5640 Walter Van Gorder4748 John Lueke 3332 Bruce Herider1696 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
