RE: [RCSE] Antenna configuration

2003-08-14 Thread Roback,Rhett
 I have to ask, what receivers are you guys using? I'm used my hitec supreme
in my hades ( which has a carbon boom) for about 2 years and it works great.
I can walk far enough away and still have control so that I can barely see
the model at all. It however has a boom longer then a 1.5 meter palne as it
has a 110 inch wing..

Rhett

-Original Message-
From: Arne Ansper
To: Art Mcnamee
Cc: Rick Van Clief; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 8/9/2003 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Antenna configuration



 Carbon booms may be single strands or if they are wraped with another
 piece of carbon cloth that ties the strands together then your antenna
 is inside a tube. This will screw up reception. An ohm meter can tell
if
 you have single strands or if they are connected together.Don't put
your
 antenna in a tube.

This seems to be typical unidirectional carbon where there are many
strong
strands in one direction and weak strands spaced 2cm from each other in
order to keep the strong strands in place. So I think they are connected
with each other.

 When testing place your plane pointing away from you or directly at
you.
 Walk about 150 feet away and with your antenna collapsed and pointed
at
 your plane try the controls.If things are OK then go fly. If not
change
 the location of your antenna. It could even be in the wing.The end of
 the antenna is the weakest signal. That's why pointing the plane at
you
 or away from you is the most severe test.

Hmm, my tests indicated that the worst position was when the angle
between
TX and RX antennas was 45 degrees. 90 degrees was also bad. And the best
position was, when the RX antenna was directly pointing to TX or away
from
it.

I used helper and fully expanded antenna in my tests.

Arne

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Re: [RCSE] Antenna configuration

2003-08-14 Thread Arne Ansper


 I'm working up a minimalist pod and boom 2M and in order to further reduce
 the size of the pod thought I would put the receiver in the wing as the
 wing is rather large and there is plenty of room for the receiver in
 there.  It's a 3-piece wing, though, and the center panel is only 20 so I
 was wondering if it's ok to run the antenna toward one tip then back an
 inch or so and then toward the other tip, repeating the process until the
 antenna length is used up.

I do not know for sure, but I suspect that this is a bad idea. I recently
did some experiments with antenna shape. I have DLG with carbon boom. I
was little bit afraid that carbon tube might reduce the range and decided
to put the antenna into wing. Antenna was coming out from the wing saddle
and was then going to the wingtip, hidden in the slot in front of aileron.
Since the wing was short about half of the antenna was in the fuselage,
so the antenna was shaped like L. What happened is that I lost radio
control and crashed the plane. I started to do range checks and found that
the shape of the antenna affected the reception dramatically. Straight
antenna was best. L shaped antenna had only half of the range. I did not
test this configuration you are planning. Finally I did tests with antenna
running inside tailboom and the with antenna running outside. There was
no difference in range, so I put the antenna into tailboom.

But best way to find out is to make a test. Lay your antenna down as you
planned, connect receiver and servo, ask somebody to help you and measure
the range. Compare with the range with straight antenna.

Arne

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Re: [RCSE] Antenna configuration

2003-08-11 Thread Captain Ed

My latest plane has the receiver in the wing. I experimented with
several antenna orientations and found one that works well for me. I
ran the wire in an S pattern - passing through the leading edge of
one rib then through the trailing edge of the next, etc, terminating at
the wingtip. Obviously I did this before covering. Other orientations I
tried didn't pass range checks.


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Re: [RCSE] Antenna configuration

2003-08-10 Thread Art Mcnamee
Hi Rick,
If you run the ant. out the wingTE for example and loop the last 10 inches around to 
the LE the ant. will work OK you cannot coil up the antenna.
Regards, Art

Rick Van Clief wrote:

 OK, this brings me back to my original thought and question.  Assuming an
 antenna length of about 39 and half a 1.5 meter span, or roughly 29
 inches, how do you put the antenna in the wing?  Eventually you run out of
 wing and have about 10 of antenna left.

 RVC

   If not change the location of your antenna. It could even be in the
  wing.The end of the antenna is the weakest signal. That's why pointing
  the plane at you or away from you is the most
 severe test.

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