[RCSE] Contest Eligibility Rule
The one and only local soaring club has ruled that any pilot who lives within 100Km who wishes to compete in their local advertised contest, must first join their club. Has anyone else heard of this before? Although this has little merit, the membership fee last year was $40, now it is $100 (the dues were raised to offset cutting grass). Does this seem right to exclude locals (who may be members of other clubs)? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Contest Eligibility Rule
Sounds to me like a club that is destined to wither up and die if you ask me. Pretty lame to make you joing their club just to fly in their contests. Seems to me they would be better off welcoming everyone and then offering a membership application to those who wished to join for all the right reasons you join a club. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/01 Wed PM 03:31:32 EDT To: 1-Soaring List soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Contest Eligibility Rule The one and only local soaring club has ruled that any pilot who lives within 100Km who wishes to compete in their local advertised contest, must first join their club. Has anyone else heard of this before? Although this has little merit, the membership fee last year was $40, now it is $100 (the dues were raised to offset cutting grass). Does this seem right to exclude locals (who may be members of other clubs)? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Contest Eligibility Rule
While I agree with the other reply to a point, there are apparently some pretty high costs associated with their field maintenance. Having had to be a big part of the administration of an RC soaring club, and a real soaring club, I can appreciate their reluctance to allow participation without membership. It is very frustrating trying to keep club participation at a maintainable level. If you were talking about a full-scale club, their contests are held by members and by those that become members for the time they are competing. That's about liability, more than anything. A hundred bucks a year sounds a bit steep, but I've no clue about their financial state, or what it costs to lease/cut a field, so I can't judge that one. We are fortunate to be allowed to fly off a large grass farm in S. E. Houston and we don't have to pay anything. We can keep our dues at a very reasonable $30.00 per year that way. If the club in question has to tax each member $100- per year to keep flying, I don't think it's unreasonable for them to expect you to join if you live within a certain radius. The only other solution would be to double nonmembers entry fees. For the record, I drive 55 miles to fly RC sailplanes, and I'm a past-president of the Houston Hawks R/C Soaring Club. Jack Womack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one and only local soaring club has ruled that any pilot who lives within 100Km who wishes to compete in their local advertised contest, must first join their club. Has anyone else heard of this before? Although this has little merit, the membership fee last year was $40, now it is $100 (the dues were raised to offset cutting grass). Does this seem right to exclude locals (who may be members of other clubs)? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Contest Eligibility Rule
Isn't the whole issue here, pilots paying for the ability to fly at the field? You fly, you pay. Simple. So users can pay per day, per event, per year, whatever... it would seem a reasonable concept. Is this club only giving the option to pay per year? And, pilots from 100+ km's fly free? Am I missing the concept? Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Correct. Just make a tiered entrance fee. Member fee and then add a Park Maintenance fee. Just about every Business, Organization, and Municipality does something like that. Steve At 03:33 PM 6/1/2005, Bill Swingle wrote: Isn't the whole issue here, pilots paying for the ability to fly at the field? You fly, you pay. Simple. So users can pay per day, per event, per year, whatever... it would seem a reasonable concept. Is this club only giving the option to pay per year? And, pilots from 100+ km's fly free? Am I missing the concept? Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Those who reside outside of the 100Km zone apparently pay just the entry fee, quote: Entry fee of $2, of which $1 will be paid to the members who provide the winches, or you can provide a winch. You must be a paid member of the club to enter. Out of town (100km) will have to show MAAC card if not a club member. Quoting Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Isn't the whole issue here, pilots paying for the ability to fly at the field? You fly, you pay. Simple. So users can pay per day, per event, per year, whatever... it would seem a reasonable concept. Is this club only giving the option to pay per year? And, pilots from 100+ km's fly free? Am I missing the concept? Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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You mean I was right? Surprising! I thought I was way off. Gosh, seems a mighty exclusionary way to pay for grass cutting. Hmmm... I just assumed that a club would never want to turn away pilots. Maybe that's exactly what they're trying to do. Culling the herd possibly. No, that sounds too southern California. Possibly someone should suggest a daily use fee in addition to a yearly membership. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Contest Eligibility Rule
Possibly someone should suggest a daily use fee in addition to a yearly membership. Again, someone has to volunteer and take their flying time to be the administrator of all these fees. That's a good way to run off the good people that are dedicated, and don't mind paying a reasonable price of $8.34 per month for a decent place to fly. That's cheap. I'm known for being cheap and that's still cheap. Jack Womack --- Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean I was right? Surprising! I thought I was way off. Gosh, seems a mighty exclusionary way to pay for grass cutting. Hmmm... I just assumed that a club would never want to turn away pilots. Maybe that's exactly what they're trying to do. Culling the herd possibly. No, that sounds too southern California. Possibly someone should suggest a daily use fee in addition to a yearly membership. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
