Re: [RCSE] Digital Scales - a positive vendor message

2003-12-03 Thread Andrew E. Mileski
Andrew E. Mileski wrote:
I just got a digital scale from Digital Scales Direct, and I'm quite
satisified with it, and I'm impressed with the fast shipping and superb
packing job.  It looks like it came straight from the factory to me.
They have a web site front for their EBay auctions:
  http://www.digitalscalesdirect.com/
Seems this address doesn't have scales :(  I'm sure it is the same
people though.  Weird.
Digital Scales Direct's EBay Store:
  http://www.stores.ebay.com/id=4352192ssPageName=L2
This works though, and is where I got mine.

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Andrew E. Mileski
Ottawa, Canada
http://isoar.ca/
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[RCSE] digital scales

2003-12-03 Thread KEVIN KAVANEY
I purchased a Sunbeam digital scale at Office Max and have had good luck with it. one 
other club member has done the same.
they cost $29.99.  I have not tested it with  some sophisicated accuracy device, but 
sure beats anything I had previously.
kevin kavaney


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[RCSE] Digital Scales

2003-12-03 Thread Aradhana Singh Khalsa



I also purchased one 
of these inexpensive digital scales ($40), another manufacturer, 2 
gramincrements.For monitoring building weight it didn't work out 
very well, as the rough resolution prevented us from seeing what each component 
was contributing to the build. 

To do a better job 
on the Drela designs we are building, many on the Allegro-Lite group recommended 
a scale with 1/10th gram increments. 

Our inexpensive and 
accurate solution was to buy a usedOhaus beam balance on eBay--cost with 
shipping under $50. Weighs up to 610 grams in 1/10th gram increments. A set of 
weights at $32 plus shipping extends the range to 2510 grams, or 5lbs 2 oz. Not 
as easy to carry into a store, but accurate, inexpensive, and a high capacity 
when you want it.

Aradhana Singh 
Khalsa
New 
Mexico



Re: [RCSE] Digital Scales

2003-12-03 Thread Keith Smith




I have used many scales while working in test 
laboratories. My all around preference is the old standard Ohaus 2610 g Triple 
Balance Beam Scale. They're extremely accurate, and with a inexpensive set of 
calibration weight set, you can easily maintain your scale accuracy with no 
problems. I am able to mix as little resin as 10 grams of material, and yet stay 
within the tolerances ofmy epoxy mixing ratios.Generally speaking, 
your inexpensive digital scales can easily be off by several percentages. 
That may not be a major concern when mixing resins that require 20 % by weight 
on an ounce or more of material, but mixing smaller amounts of material, 
especially materials that require a hardenat 7 % by weight, that's when 
you begin torun intodifficulties. 

The majority of the modelers seldom calibrate their 
scales, and for the most partyou may not experience any noticeable 
problems if you don't calibrate your scale. However,if you are really 
concerned about having the exact mixing ratios, and want to insure you have the 
optimum strength, you may want to consider investing in a scale that will give 
you the proper accuracies! You can buy a good used triple beam scale for as 
little as $ 15.00, or near new for about $ 35.00. I have a habit of checking my 
scale calibration nearly once before using it. I've made three standard 
weights.My weights range form 10, 30. and 50 grams. If you're really 
serious about your calibration, you can buy an inexpensive calibration weight 
sets for about $12.00 I use my three normal standard weights regularly, 
because that's my normal mixing range.All triple beam scale 
arequick andeasy to make tare any adjustments. Every time you place 
any mixing cup on yourscale, you automatically see the tare weight 
zero out. I also suggest spraying a very light mist of WD-40 on yourplate, 
thishelps prevent from epoxy build-ups, but be careful, not to over 
spray with the WD-40. Heavy spraying of WD-40 could affect your scale 
calibration.It's also best to periodically wipe yourscale down with 
good old reliable isopropyl rubbing alcohol, or even Windex window cleaner. 
I suggest Checkingout E-bay. They always have triple beam scales for 
scale. When you buying anyscale iy's best to clean it, light lube it as 
required, and always double calibrate the first usage ofany scale, whether 
it's new or a usedscale before ever using it! 

I hope all that read this, found some useful information.

Keith





Re: [RCSE] Digital Scales

2003-12-03 Thread JIM EALY
Guys:

My $0.02
Today in lab,I used balances that ranged in price from $6000+ to $89  The $89
balances were centigram balances with accuracy to 0.1 g, capacity of 250 grams.
I will not belabor the differences between accuracy and precision - I do it all
the time with students that should know better.

However, if a balance has a possible error of 1% for values between 1 gram and
100 grams - than it doesn't matter if you measure out large amounts or small
amounts. 1% of 100g is one gram - will not matter for the mix and if you need
10 grams, 1% of 10 grams is 0.1g - well within the tolerance for hardner, etc.
or even 2%!

Triple beam balances are not as good as a digital balance. The TB balance must
be able to swing freely and stop on the zero or the same place each time. If
you've used the balance once it is not as good as it was. (I go back to using a
chain-o-matic analytical balance, same priciple as a TB and those weighing
may have taken 30 - 40 minutes, and the standards I had to use, cost me over
$100 in 1963) The use (and repeated use) of the TB balance rounds off the
once sharp fulcrum - and then it will not stop swinging at the same place with
the same amount of epoxy, etc or the calibrated set, both accuracy and
precision are poor. This fact of life will make them less accurate/precise than
the cheapest digital. Forget any rough handling, abuse in shipping, or on the
flea market table

I've had students check (a lab designed to show students the differences between
accuracy and precision with multiple measuring instruments)triple beams against
cheap digital - and the cheap digital always wins.

Taring on a triple beam is not easy nor quick. Weighing on a TB is not quick
either.  ALL digital balances will tare with a push of the tare button, so you
can use used cups, different sized cups, etc.

Unless you buy a good set of calibrated masses and DO NOT touch them with
anything except clean forceps, they are useless as a calibration standard. Just
the oil on your hands (never mind dust and corrosion) will make them worst than
the cheapest digital balances.
BTW: sometimes you can get really good digital balances at the police station
for nothing or a small donation to their fund - they confiscate them in drug
busts!
Jim Ealy

Jim Ealy
Education by Demonstration
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