[RCSE] Mounting servos

2002-07-08 Thread John Ensoll

Gidday all,
Thanks for all the replys to my query, I received 5 in the first 1/2 hour
and to date 18 hours later, the number of replies is now 23.  Thank you all
for your thoughts and time.
I have the JR servos, and in the past have used a local bond called urethane
bond which remains flexible and is foam friendly.  However as I had other
work to do on the Cross-tail Eraser, I put out the query.
I have decide to go Eric Farmers way which is as follows:-

Glue a patch of carbon bidirectional cloth onto the top skin (with resin...
this will be permanant).  Use either foam safe CA or some 5min to glue the
servo directly to this.  Be sure you rough up the servo case first to get it
something to hold on to.  The foam safe CA is not to keep from eating the
foam in the wing, because rohacell is CA friendly, but rather because it is
somewhat more flexible than regular CA and can be broken away to remove the
servo.  Same with the 5 min.  Use only a small dot of adhesive right in the
center of the servo to hold it in place.  This will be plenty strong enough
for flight loads (My F3B and slope racers are done this way), but will be
easily removed in case of maintenance.

Thank you Eric.

Regards,
John Ensoll.
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Builder, Flier, Flyfisherman, in retirement.
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[RCSE] Mounting servos in molded wings.

2000-10-08 Thread Harley Michaelis

Fellows. . .LSF023 here. I'm reading the various posts on servo mounting
and looking at the ideas shown in websites mentioned and would humbly like
to make a suggestion for another way to go that is easy, works in very thin
wings, firmly mounts the servo and readily allows removing it. 

I direct you to the RDS website,
http://www.proptwisters.org/rds2/index.html. From the opening page, click
on INSTRUCTIONS to get into the MAIN INSTRUCTIONS. These were updated just
today with NEW pertinent text, sketches and photos.
 
Although what is in there addresses the all-internal Rotary Driver System,
the part about servo mounting applies equally well to other installations.
I think most everyone is overlooking something obvious, very simple and
totally practical. 

Page to the 2 side by side thumbnail sketches and click to bring these up
full-size. Look at what is referred to as "hat bracket" mounting in the
left sketch. 

The base involved does not need to be more than 1/32" or so thick since no
screws have to go into it to secure the servo! Instead the screws go into
the rails on the base. I find a 1/4" wide rail, capped with ply so it won't
split out, to work just fine. I can use 3/8" screws without worrying
they'll punch through the skin. Bases can be made as wide as is deemed
necessary to spread the loads on the skin. Rails can be as broad as you
like and more than one screw can be used each side if you wish.

Look. . .when overhead space is a premium, why would you want a thick base
under a servo, except to run screws into? Using those auxiliary side mounts
as come with the Hitec servos, etc. still requires a thick base for screws
and there goes your overhead space if you aren't into $65-$100 super-thin
servos. 

Since a center-mounted side mounting flange is a rarity in lower cost
servos, hat bracket mounting is a practical option. 

In the website mentioned, page to the THREE PIECE WING section and look at
the pics there that show such mounting in my GENIE wing, which is rather
thin. 
I used Volz servos, but I tell you there was no overhead space for those
neat, laser cut, dedicated ply bases Volz provides. . .NO WAY, so I did it
my way! The highlighted word "GENIE" in that section is a link to my 12'
span vacuum-bagged competition ship website. This ship is no wimp and
requires very solid servo installation using the Rotary Driver System. 

Page to the MOLDED WINGS section for some suggestions regarding servo
mounting in such wings using the hat bracket method. 

.025"-030" aluminum works well for the bracket. Size them so the screws
cinch the servo down tightly so it can't move. I made up some little forms
over which to size the brackets for servos I regularly use, rather than
trying to individually eyeball and bend them to fit. 

 

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 From: Jim Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: The Love Villar family [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring
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 Subject: Re: [RCSE] Servo Mounting Article by Paul Ferguson?
 Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 9:15 PM
 
 http://bigglesworth.com.au/ssl/technical/servo_mounting.PDF
 - Original Message - 
 From: "The Love Villar family" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Jim Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 9:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [RCSE] Servo Mounting Article by Paul Ferguson?
 
 
  On 10/7/2000 8:39 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
  
   Nevermind, found it...
  
  Where?
  
   -- Keith
  
 
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Re: [RCSE] mounting servos in molded wings

2000-10-08 Thread Harley Michaelis

Hi d.o.. . .I may have looked at those ply mounts wrongly, but my
impression was that I could not use them in thin wings. I do not recall
that they allowed the servo to go in even with the underside of the mounts.
I'll get in touch with the friend I gave them to and take another look.

No discredit to Volz was intended. In fact, I have been working with Mike
and with Kimbrough Products, who do the RDS couplers, to get an adapter
molded for use with the Volz servos and those are now on the new 5 adapter
tree.

If the servo bottom can reach the skin, then to use the mount with the RDS,
which may require tilting to aligng the drive shaft between the coupler and
the pocket, it would only be necessary to cover the mount bottom with 1/64"
ply to keep the epoxy, etc. out of the laser cut openings. 

I'm real curious of I missed something and will take another look first
chance I get to catch up with the friend I gave the mounts to. 

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 Subject: [RCSE] mounting servos in molded wings
 Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:13 PM
 
 
 Harley Michaelis writes:
 
 I used Volz servos, but I tell you there was no overhead space for those
  neat, laser cut, dedicated ply bases Volz provides  snip
 
 I don't really understand why you would not have space for the Volz
mounts.
 They have no "overhead requirements" as they are not as thick as the
servo
 yet let the bottom surface of the servo sit on the skin.  Additionally,
they
 require a smaller hole as during installation, and they can be rotated
down
 thru the servo-sized opening.
 
 Contrarily, the "hat" method you show would require a larger opening in
the
 wing to allow access for the screws.  Also, the plan shows "rails" which
are
 at least as tall, if not taller than the Volz units.
 
 
 
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