[RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)

2008-03-26 Thread Ed Anderson
I have used the Hobbico locator.  It works as you describe and will likely work
with 2.4 GHz but it is so annoying to have to move the sticks just to keep the
alarm from sounding.  If they had a 10 minute window instead of a 1 minute
window it would be ideal.

Best regards,
Ed Anderson
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From: Doug McLaren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cc: Soaring@airage.com
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On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:04:37AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...

This will work fine with PPM, PCM or 2.4 GHz stuff, and you won't have
to do any special programming to make it work --

   http://www.hobbico.com/radioaccys/hcap0335.html

The lost plane alarm will be activated if the servo channel it's on
stops getting pulses, which is what works with normal PPM stuff and
doesn't work with PCM or 2.4 GHz gear.  However, the transmiter
inactivity signal (which sounds the same as the lost plane alarm) will
still work even with PCM or 2.4 GHz -- if you stop moving the sticks
(or if you go into and stay in failsafe), that channel will be idle
(not changing, though it may still be getting servo pulses), and once
it's been idle for a minute, the alarm start beeping as if your plane
was lost.

And yes, I've tried it.

The downside is that your plane will get upset and start beeping if
you leave it turned on and idle for a few minutes -- like when you put
it down between flights.  Most annoying.  I wish they'd made the
timeout five minutes instead.

-- 
Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)

2008-03-25 Thread aeajr
Greg and Gordy,
 
I am likewise a fan of these little beeper/finder/battery monitors.  This one 
from Sky King RC Products is my favorite. 
http://www.skykingrcproducts.com/accessories/lostmodel/lost_rc_model_alarm.html
 
This is the only one I hav been able to get to work with both FM and PCM.  But 
I have not been able to get it to work with 2.4 GHz. Spektrum receivers.  
 
Gordy, you say you can make it work.  Have you actually tried?   If you have 
been successful, perhaps you can give us a step by step.  The procedure I used 
for PCM did not work for 2.4 GHz Spektrum.
 
Ed Anderson
 
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 This is the same as with PCM, all you have to do is program a 
 failsafe function to the channel you have your plane finder plugged into 
 to fire the response.
 
 So if you are in Aux 4 for instance, program full travel the 
 other direction, that way when the TX is turned off simulating a lost 
 signal your device will trigger.
 
 Gordy
 
 In a message dated 3/24/2008 9:44:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 In the past on my 72MHz radios I have used a device in my planes which 
 beeps when it loses the signal from the transmitter. This has 
 been handy to find a plane in the woods and to signal me when the 
 receiver is bad(saved one plane when the receiver was bad) This device 
 plugs into a spare channel. 
 
 The problem is that I have switched to the JR9303 2.4GHz radio 
 but with its failsafe this device always gets a signal so it doesn't 
 beep when I turn the transmitter off.
 
 Anybody experienced this? Is there something new that will 
 work with the 2.4GHZ radios? 
 
 Greg
 


Re: [RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)

2008-03-25 Thread Doug McLaren
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:04:37AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|This is the only one I hav been able to get to work with both FM and
|PCM.  But I have not been able to get it to work with 2.4 GHz.
|Spektrum receivers.

I like how they say it --

   NOTE: This is the only Lost Model Locator of its type and size
   available that will work with most PCM systems!

... of it's type basically guarantees that no matter what new
products come out, this statement is still accurate, because they
won't be of it's type -- they'll be a different type, even if they
do exactly the same thing.

(Still, looks very nice and small.  And it also looks like it *should*
work with 2.4 GHz gear if you follow their programming instructions,
but of course I've not tried it.)

|Gordy, you say you can make it work.  Have you actually tried?   If you
|have been successful, perhaps you can give us a step by step.  The
|procedure I used for PCM did not work for 2.4 GHz Spektrum.

This will work fine with PPM, PCM or 2.4 GHz stuff, and you won't have
to do any special programming to make it work --

   http://www.hobbico.com/radioaccys/hcap0335.html

The lost plane alarm will be activated if the servo channel it's on
stops getting pulses, which is what works with normal PPM stuff and
doesn't work with PCM or 2.4 GHz gear.  However, the transmiter
inactivity signal (which sounds the same as the lost plane alarm) will
still work even with PCM or 2.4 GHz -- if you stop moving the sticks
(or if you go into and stay in failsafe), that channel will be idle
(not changing, though it may still be getting servo pulses), and once
it's been idle for a minute, the alarm start beeping as if your plane
was lost.

And yes, I've tried it.

The downside is that your plane will get upset and start beeping if
you leave it turned on and idle for a few minutes -- like when you put
it down between flights.  Most annoying.  I wish they'd made the
timeout five minutes instead.

-- 
Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You fight until hell freezes over. Then you fight on the ice.
 --Richard Russell
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Re: [RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)

2008-03-25 Thread Ed Berris
SkyKing here.  So far we do not have a solution for Spectrum 2.4GHz 
systems.  They all employ a fail safe which cannot be turned off.  This 
defeats our locator.  The Futaba 2.4GHz 6 channel 2.4 GHz allows us to 
use the gear channel on/off toggle switch to turn our locator on or off 
without the need for turning the TX off.


I have never tested the Hobbico lost model device but it might work with 
your 2.4 GHz TX.  It triggers on when the device does not detect any 
stick movement for a period of time.  But, I'm not certain if it will 
work since I have never tested one.


We will have a unit at some point but at the moment it is a back burner 
project.

Ed
SkyKing RC Products, LLC
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Greg and Gordy,

I am likewise a fan of these little beeper/finder/battery monitors. 
This one from Sky King RC Products is my favorite.

http://www.skykingrcproducts.com/accessories/lostmodel/lost_rc_model_alarm.html

This is the only one I hav been able to get to work with both FM and 
PCM.  But I have not been able to get it to work with 2.4 GHz. 
Spektrum receivers.


Gordy, you say you can make it work.  Have you actually tried?   If 
you have been successful, perhaps you can give us a step by step.  The 
procedure I used for PCM did not work for 2.4 GHz Spektrum.


Ed Anderson


Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:57:12 EDT
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This is the same as with PCM, all you have to do is program a
failsafe function to the channel you have your plane finder plugged 
into

to fire the response.

So if you are in Aux 4 for instance, program full travel the
other direction, that way when the TX is turned off simulating a lost
signal your device will trigger.

Gordy

In a message dated 3/24/2008 9:44:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In the past on my 72MHz radios I have used a device in my planes 
which

beeps when it loses the signal from the transmitter. This has
been handy to find a plane in the woods and to signal me when the
receiver is bad(saved one plane when the receiver was bad) This 
device

plugs into a spare channel.

The problem is that I have switched to the JR9303 2.4GHz radio
but with its failsafe this device always gets a signal so it doesn't
beep when I turn the transmitter off.

Anybody experienced this? Is there something new that will
work with the 2.4GHZ radios?

Greg









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[RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)

2008-03-24 Thread GordySoar
This is the same as with PCM, all you have to do is program a failsafe  
function to the channel you have your plane finder plugged into to fire the  
response.
 
So if you are in Aux 4 for instance, program full travel the other  
direction, that way when the TX is turned off simulating a lost signal your  
device 
will trigger.

Gordy
 
 
In a message dated 3/24/2008 9:44:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In the  past on my 72MHz radios I have used a device in my planes which 
beeps when  it loses the signal from the transmitter.  This has been 
handy to  find a plane in the woods and to signal me when the receiver 
is bad(saved  one plane when the receiver was bad)  This device plugs 
into a spare  channel.  

The problem is that I have switched to the JR9303  2.4GHz radio but with 
its failsafe this device always gets a signal so it  doesn't beep when I 
turn the transmitter off.

Anybody experienced  this?  Is there something new that will work with 
the 2.4GHZ  radios?  

Greg

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