Re: [RCSE] Re: This could be you?

2000-01-12 Thread RH1037

In a message dated 1/12/00 12:07:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 maybe an approach on e-mail (or phone) like "hey, I'm new, don't know if 
I'm
 ready to purchase yet, but I'm looking for some specific information.."
 
 might pave a path inviting more constructive and civil communication from
 the beginning.. 

This is exactly the approach I have taken with Sal in my dealings with him, 
almost verbatimyet it yielded no more civil responses from him...He 
doesn't seem to respond to courteous inquiries any better
Rodger Hamer
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[RCSE] Re: This could be you?

2000-01-12 Thread VDeller


Oh Now I understand- I have to "court" the vendor before I order , or I mean 
before I am priviledged enough to have them service me. Well now I know that 
all I have to do is send some flowers before my order is called in and all 
will be OK. ;-)
Vince D

~~~
Mike Stump
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vince,
I don't know you but I have to comment..

At 10:21 AM 1/12/00 EST, you wrote:
I e-mailed Sal and informed him that I was hesitant to order from 
his company based on the negative feedback that I had rec'd. Well he 
basically told me to "pound sand" and go elsewhere, his anger was coming 
through even on an e-mail.

take another look at this... is this any way to open a conversation with
someone? regardless of wether or not a transaction is involved..

if I were on the other end of this opening statement from someone I didn't
know (I've heard it, sold cars  trucks for a time) I become wary from the
onset myself...

This after I was completely civil in my original post.

what you thought was civil in anothers eyes is a put-off... add a
personality that's a little caustic and you got what you got, "pound sand"

maybe an approach on e-mail (or phone) like "hey, I'm new, don't know if I'm
ready to purchase yet, but I'm looking for some specific information.."

might pave a path inviting more constructive and civil communication from
the beginning..

Most companies would have responded with something like "we will try 
our best to meet your needs" or " we have had a rough  past few months , but 
we are working on bettering our service".

had you tried the above this may have been more likely to happen..

 I e-mailed him back and said I was 
going elsewhere with my business, I never heard a word after that.

Again, you set the tone for this interchange, or lack of it.

 In the end I did all that I could, I informed him why he was losing a
customer, 

You're correct that you did all that you could, to doom this deal from the
beginning.

NSP has this info splattered all over the net, but they don't appear to
care.

I think they do care.. The people they care most about are those that want
to do business in a respectful, fair, communication. That doesn't mean
tow-towing to Sal or anyone else..

To me their attitude is clear, " 
we are making money doing it this way, and we will continue to do so until 
the money stops coming in, THEN we will change something"
Remember as a seller, they have the right to measure your approach and
attitude and they may not want your money..

Mike Stump
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[RCSE] RE: this could be you

2000-01-12 Thread VDeller


Oh Now I understand- I have to "court" the vendor before I order , or I mean 
before I am priviledged enough to have them service me. Well now I know that 
all I have to do is send some flowers before my order is called in and all 
will be OK. ;-)
Vince D

~~~
Mike Stump
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vince,
I don't know you but I have to comment..

At 10:21 AM 1/12/00 EST, you wrote:
I e-mailed Sal and informed him that I was hesitant to order from 
his company based on the negative feedback that I had rec'd. Well he 
basically told me to "pound sand" and go elsewhere, his anger was coming 
through even on an e-mail.

take another look at this... is this any way to open a conversation with
someone? regardless of wether or not a transaction is involved..

if I were on the other end of this opening statement from someone I didn't
know (I've heard it, sold cars  trucks for a time) I become wary from the
onset myself...

This after I was completely civil in my original post.

what you thought was civil in anothers eyes is a put-off... add a
personality that's a little caustic and you got what you got, "pound sand"

maybe an approach on e-mail (or phone) like "hey, I'm new, don't know if I'm
ready to purchase yet, but I'm looking for some specific information.."

might pave a path inviting more constructive and civil communication from
the beginning..

Most companies would have responded with something like "we will try 
our best to meet your needs" or " we have had a rough  past few months , but 
we are working on bettering our service".

had you tried the above this may have been more likely to happen..

 I e-mailed him back and said I was 
going elsewhere with my business, I never heard a word after that.

Again, you set the tone for this interchange, or lack of it.

 In the end I did all that I could, I informed him why he was losing a
customer, 

You're correct that you did all that you could, to doom this deal from the
beginning.

NSP has this info splattered all over the net, but they don't appear to
care.

I think they do care.. The people they care most about are those that want
to do business in a respectful, fair, communication. That doesn't mean
tow-towing to Sal or anyone else..

To me their attitude is clear, " 
we are making money doing it this way, and we will continue to do so until 
the money stops coming in, THEN we will change something"
Remember as a seller, they have the right to measure your approach and
attitude and they may not want your money..

Mike Stump
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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