RE: [RCSE] Several DLG questions

2008-08-15 Thread chris
Dan,

Many of your questions have answers and much more info on RCgroups.com
on the Handlaunch forums.  See:http://www.rcgroups.com/hand-launch-96/

As for the other questions, most are using composite winged planes
because of their stiffness, airfoil accuracy, and ease of building. 
There are many built up plane kits out there, of which the DL50 is nice.
 there are build logs for it as well as others Whig you might find
helpful.

As for the separate rudder and elevator, sub-rudders assist with
reducing boom bending, hence building a rudder and not having to split
it for an elevator is nice.  As for elevators, again, you have a much
lighter and stronger structure.  However, one of the best real reasons
is transporting the plane.  You can remove the elevator and the fuse
then lies flat in a box, or whatever.  The tailfeathers are quite light
and delicate, so this prevent hanger rash!  As for aerodynamics, you
still have the intersections of the surfaces, so drag is not really that
much different.  In some cases you can uses an all moving stab, and that
helps with obtaining the best incidence for launching and thermaling.

There are other reasons, so again, I invite you to look at RCgroups, and
you can pour through all the old posts and questions.  There are lots of
pictures, so that helps alot too.

Chris





  Original Message 
 Subject: [RCSE] Several DLG questions
 From: Dan Ashenfelter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, August 12, 2008 5:00 pm
 To: soaring@airage.com
 Gentlemen:
 Before flying season fades into the sunset, I would like to build a DLG.  At 
 this point in my life I have more time than money, so I am looking at a 
 built-up entry level kit rather than spending $300+ for an ARF or a 
 high-performance kit.
 I have been researching quite a bit over the last several days, and the 
 conventional built-up kit selection is rather sparse. Right now, the most 
 likely candidates are the QF2 from Mountain Models and the Gambler AF from 
 Wright Brothers RC.  I have also considered the relatively low cost ARF 
 Apache from SoaringUSA.com
 As I researched built-up DLG's it seemed that most of them were 50 span or 
 less rather than the usual 1.5m span that dominates the higher end models. Is 
 this for structural integrity or mostly for personal convenience/choice? As a 
 novice DLG flyer should I look toward shorter span models or stick with the 
 1.5m ships?
 I am also curious to understand why the vertical and horizontal tail surfaces 
 are separated on most DLG's. Aerodynamically I know that fewer intersections 
 helps with drag, but are there other reasons for doing so?
 I have been flying r/c for 36+ years so I am not a novice to model flight but 
 DLG is a whole new world for me.
 If anyone on the exchange has experience with the models named above (or 
 similar kits) or can offer a novice DLG pilot some practical advise on span 
 choice, Rudder/Elevator vs Rudder/Aileron/Elevator, polyhedral vs dihedral 
 models or any other area that might prove helpful, I would be very grateful.
 Thanks
 Dan Ashenfelter
 Fort Dodge, Iowa

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[RCSE] Several DLG questions

2008-08-15 Thread Ed Anderson
Dan,

Based on posts on the forums, I would point you to the Gambler.  This seems
to be a kit that is universally loved and praised.  The others you list are
also good choices but the Gambler seems to top this stack.  I don't have one
but the community seems to love this plane.

The Gambler-AG = $75 - Kit
http://www.wrightbrothersrc.com/products/gambler.htm
http://www.rcgroups.com/4506
Review
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=583972
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70IafR_ShoE

Art Hobby has a number of 1.5M DLGs that you might consider.  I have no
experience with their planes

ArtHobby Hyper DL $131 Kit
http://www.arthobby.com/shop.html

Art Hobby Hybrid DL  $160
http://www.arthobby.com/shop.html

Best regards,
Ed Anderson


   Original Message 
  Subject: [RCSE] Several DLG questions
  From: Dan Ashenfelter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tue, August 12, 2008 5:00 pm
  To: soaring@airage.com
  Gentlemen:
  Before flying season fades into the sunset, I would like to build a DLG.
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  At this point in my life I have more time than money, so I am looking at
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  built-up entry level kit rather than spending $300+ for an ARF or a
high-p=
 erformance kit.
  I have been researching quite a bit over the last several days, and the
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 onventional built-up kit selection is rather sparse. Right now, the most
li=
 kely candidates are the QF2 from Mountain Models and the Gambler AF from
Wr=
 ight Brothers RC.  I have also considered the relatively low cost ARF
Apach=
 e from SoaringUSA.com
  As I researched built-up DLG's it seemed that most of them were 50 span
=
 or less rather than the usual 1.5m span that dominates the higher end
model=
 s. Is this for structural integrity or mostly for personal
convenience/choi=
 ce? As a novice DLG flyer should I look toward shorter span models or
stick=
  with the 1.5m ships?
  I am also curious to understand why the vertical and horizontal tail
surf=
 aces are separated on most DLG's. Aerodynamically I know that fewer
interse=
 ctions helps with drag, but are there other reasons for doing so?
  I have been flying r/c for 36+ years so I am not a novice to model
flight=
  but DLG is a whole new world for me.
  If anyone on the exchange has experience with the models named above (or
=
 similar kits) or can offer a novice DLG pilot some practical advise on
span=
  choice, Rudder/Elevator vs Rudder/Aileron/Elevator, polyhedral vs
dihedral=
  models or any other area that might prove helpful, I would be very
gratefu=
 l.
  Thanks
  Dan Ashenfelter
  Fort Dodge, Iowa


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[RCSE] Several DLG questions

2008-08-12 Thread Dan Ashenfelter
Gentlemen:

Before flying season fades into the sunset, I would like to build a DLG.  At 
this point in my life I have more time than money, so I am looking at a 
built-up entry level kit rather than spending $300+ for an ARF or a 
high-performance kit.

I have been researching quite a bit over the last several days, and the 
conventional built-up kit selection is rather sparse. Right now, the most 
likely candidates are the QF2 from Mountain Models and the Gambler AF from 
Wright Brothers RC.  I have also considered the relatively low cost ARF Apache 
from SoaringUSA.com

As I researched built-up DLG's it seemed that most of them were 50 span or 
less rather than the usual 1.5m span that dominates the higher end models. Is 
this for structural integrity or mostly for personal convenience/choice? As a 
novice DLG flyer should I look toward shorter span models or stick with the 
1.5m ships?

I am also curious to understand why the vertical and horizontal tail surfaces 
are separated on most DLG's. Aerodynamically I know that fewer intersections 
helps with drag, but are there other reasons for doing so?

I have been flying r/c for 36+ years so I am not a novice to model flight but 
DLG is a whole new world for me.

If anyone on the exchange has experience with the models named above (or 
similar kits) or can offer a novice DLG pilot some practical advise on span 
choice, Rudder/Elevator vs Rudder/Aileron/Elevator, polyhedral vs dihedral 
models or any other area that might prove helpful, I would be very grateful.


Thanks

Dan Ashenfelter
Fort Dodge, Iowa