Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies

2006-01-01 Thread netstation
What about a class where the plane has to be 'Muncie corn field weather 
aged, then Daryl will be flying with Mark and his friends!!!

Happy New Year to all.
Peter B.
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To: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RCSE soaring@airage.com
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies



OK...ok...I think I've got it. Mr. Diniz, are you
taking notes???

I would like to propose for the Horizon/ JR Unlimited
Masters of Soaring contest... so as to NOT exclude
anybody... we fly the following classes:

Unlimited
RES
RES and Flaps
RE and Flaps
2M
2M RES
2M RES and Flaps
2M RE and Flaps
Woody Built up full house
Woody RES
Woody RES and Flaps
Woody RE and Flaps
Composite Built up full house
Composite built up RES
Composite built up RES and Flaps
Composite built up RE and Flaps
2M Woody RES
2M Woody RES and Flaps
2M Woody RE and Flaps
Oh and foam of all the above...
We should also fly in each age group... I'm pretty
sure I could take the born between May 20 and May 22,
1961 class (when did I get so freaking old???)

But the class we're all really hoping for in creating
all these classes is the... drum roll please


There's no way I can beat Joe Wurts so what the heck
is he NOT going to fly Class

Oh, and John, can you make sure there is at least 5K
per class in this for 1st place, so we can all afford
to go??? If we have enough classes, I think we can all
get wood...

Sorry guys... this is killing me...

Happy New Year to all! And I remember a time when we
all came to a contest and flew whatever we wanted cuz
it was fun... Had my ass handed to me plenty of times
by built up POS's.

Tongue in Cheek - have fun guys,

D



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Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies

2006-01-01 Thread Brian Chan


Happy New Year to all! And I remember a time when we
all came to a contest and flew whatever we wanted cuz
it was fun... Had my ass handed to me plenty of times
by built up POS's.

Tongue in Cheek - have fun guys,

D


Let's remember one thing, pilot flys the plane to the winner circles, 
wood or not. All others will go to the whiner's circle. You can have 
the best plane in the world and still can't beat the lucky pilot who 
found the lift and can land in a spot that you can't fit a quarter in.


Let have fun and not too worry about what you fly.

Happy New Year to all and to all a good flight. Wait that does not 
sound as well with Christmas...oh well, life is not perfec.



Brian
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Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies

2006-01-01 Thread Michael Neverdosky
I find that it helps to look at the system.

To do a TD task you have a pilot, plane, caller/timer, preparation,
maintenance, conditions and luck.
The better the first things are the less important is the last.
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[RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies

2005-12-31 Thread Jim Deck
First, kudos to JR and the LSF for getting an idea rolling whose time
has definitely come.  The rules look like a true soaring contest and
conditions at Muncie will keep it from being a landing contest.  A
combination of the group that puts on the NATS and the group that puts on a
really classy aerotow event should result in a winner.  A premier event at a
premier site, when Indiana weather is at its best - who could ask for
anything more?  Now, about the mild hue  cry regarding woodies at this
competition.  As primarily a woody flier myself, my first thought was that
I'd volunteer to help and not take a spot from a more qualified or deserving
pilot.  Then the discussion ensued here on RCSE and I started thinking.
As I understand it, the objective of this event is to promote and
display R/C soaring with a premier competition.  OK, so does premier
competition mean the best flyers competing with the most competitive
sailplanes available to them?  If so, then why not pare down the number of
entries to a smaller number and fly more rounds?  But, if the promote and
display part of the objective is taken seriously, then a large variety of
sailplanes should indeed be a part.   Right now there are a variety of
somewhat prestigious events in the other venues of model aviation that do
indeed draw a lot of spectators.  I'm not sure that a large number of
spectators always assures a large number of newcomers drawn to the hobby.
Do a significant number of NASCAR fans become race drivers?  Only in their
dreams or video games.
So, my thought is that the nature of the event is definitely in the
hands of the organizers.  I'm sure that they monitor and thoughtfully
consider thoughtful comments made in this forum.  Therefore let us continue
to reason together without rancor or sarcasm and not let this discussion run
down ratholes like builders vs.  non-builders, floaters vs. lawn darts, and
lengthy diatribes about whether or not the highest placing woody should
qualify as an LSF win.
Looking forward to a great 2006 flying season and a new primo event,
Jim Deck

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Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies

2005-12-31 Thread Iflyicrash





In a message dated 12/31/2005 3:31:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Therefore let us continueto reason together without rancor or 
  sarcasm and not let this discussion rundown ratholes like builders 
  vs. non-builders, floaters vs. lawn darts, andlengthy diatribes 
  about whether or not the highest placing "woody" shouldqualify as an LSF 
  win.
Amen Jim ! BG

Bill 
GrenobleLSF 7558 IVHawksnest SoaringShermans Dale, 
PA


Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies

2005-12-31 Thread Ray Hayes
OK Jim from Valpo..

A couple of things:  Your only wrong in one of your statements...

do NASCAR fans become race drivers... and you said NO,
Big Time Wrong Gong on that one...they become race car drivers on the
city streets.

Especially the young ones on the cell phone putting her make up on in the
review mirror during 8:56 am drive time.

The other thing... the rules of this event are:

LSF Aspirants are eligible.  In my opinion that leads to a reason for a
woody class, where as in the previous years Masters, I believe only Level 3
or 4 qualified.

My big hope here is some new, strong scratch woody designs show up that have
legs and can launch hard.  But that challenge has always been available at
the NATS, so I'm not holding my breath for too many of them to show up,
maybe one or two or three that I know of.

Without a woody class and without NOS at AMA NATS.  do you know
where the most woody fun will be in 2006 ?

Stay cool...

Ray Hayes
http://www.skybench.com
Home of Wood Crafters
- Original Message - 
From: Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RCSE soaring@airage.com
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 3:30 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies


 First, kudos to JR and the LSF for getting an idea rolling whose time
 has definitely come.  The rules look like a true soaring contest and
 conditions at Muncie will keep it from being a landing contest.  A
 combination of the group that puts on the NATS and the group that puts on
a
 really classy aerotow event should result in a winner.  A premier event at
a
 premier site, when Indiana weather is at its best - who could ask for
 anything more?  Now, about the mild hue  cry regarding woodies at this
 competition.  As primarily a woody flier myself, my first thought was that
 I'd volunteer to help and not take a spot from a more qualified or
deserving
 pilot.  Then the discussion ensued here on RCSE and I started thinking.
 As I understand it, the objective of this event is to promote and
 display R/C soaring with a premier competition.  OK, so does premier
 competition mean the best flyers competing with the most competitive
 sailplanes available to them?  If so, then why not pare down the number of
 entries to a smaller number and fly more rounds?  But, if the promote and
 display part of the objective is taken seriously, then a large variety of
 sailplanes should indeed be a part.   Right now there are a variety of
 somewhat prestigious events in the other venues of model aviation that do
 indeed draw a lot of spectators.  I'm not sure that a large number of
 spectators always assures a large number of newcomers drawn to the hobby.
 Do a significant number of NASCAR fans become race drivers?  Only in their
 dreams or video games.
 So, my thought is that the nature of the event is definitely in the
 hands of the organizers.  I'm sure that they monitor and thoughtfully
 consider thoughtful comments made in this forum.  Therefore let us
continue
 to reason together without rancor or sarcasm and not let this discussion
run
 down ratholes like builders vs.  non-builders, floaters vs. lawn darts,
and
 lengthy diatribes about whether or not the highest placing woody should
 qualify as an LSF win.
 Looking forward to a great 2006 flying season and a new primo event,
 Jim Deck

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Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies

2005-12-31 Thread James V. Bacus
I think that is the right attitude.  I've had Ray beat me in MoM rounds 
with a woody against my ICON before.  And he will certainly let you know it 
too, and hey, that's cool.  ;-)


And guys that want to fly their 2m's and RES models feel free to do so, 
there is no restrictions on that as well.  I remember a certain OVSS 
contest in 2005 where Flyin' Brian won a contest with an Ava RES 
model.  Not just by a little, but by a butt spankin' bunch of points.


This is a fly what you bring contest, and you can use a couple of models.

It really should be a blast!


At 03:49 PM 12/31/2005, Ray Hayes wrote:

My big hope here is some new, strong scratch woody designs show up that have
legs and can launch hard.


Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net

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Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies

2005-12-31 Thread Daryl Perkins
OK...ok...I think I've got it. Mr. Diniz, are you
taking notes???

I would like to propose for the Horizon/ JR Unlimited
Masters of Soaring contest... so as to NOT exclude
anybody... we fly the following classes:

Unlimited 
RES
RES and Flaps
RE and Flaps
2M
2M RES
2M RES and Flaps
2M RE and Flaps
Woody Built up full house
Woody RES
Woody RES and Flaps
Woody RE and Flaps
Composite Built up full house
Composite built up RES
Composite built up RES and Flaps
Composite built up RE and Flaps
2M Woody RES
2M Woody RES and Flaps
2M Woody RE and Flaps
Oh and foam of all the above...
We should also fly in each age group... I'm pretty
sure I could take the born between May 20 and May 22,
1961 class (when did I get so freaking old???)

But the class we're all really hoping for in creating
all these classes is the... drum roll please


There's no way I can beat Joe Wurts so what the heck
is he NOT going to fly Class

Oh, and John, can you make sure there is at least 5K
per class in this for 1st place, so we can all afford
to go??? If we have enough classes, I think we can all
get wood...

Sorry guys... this is killing me...

Happy New Year to all! And I remember a time when we
all came to a contest and flew whatever we wanted cuz
it was fun... Had my ass handed to me plenty of times
by built up POS's.

Tongue in Cheek - have fun guys,

D



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Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies

2005-12-31 Thread Marc Gellart
Damn Daryl, are you that bored on New Years Eve that you had time to write
this all down?  I do not feel that bad, at least I was somewhere warm for
the week.

Happy new Years to all, '06 is looking really good!

Marc

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Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies

2005-12-31 Thread Marta Zavala

IT MUST BE WINTER

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