Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies
What about a class where the plane has to be 'Muncie corn field weather aged, then Daryl will be flying with Mark and his friends!!! Happy New Year to all. Peter B. - Original Message - From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies OK...ok...I think I've got it. Mr. Diniz, are you taking notes??? I would like to propose for the Horizon/ JR Unlimited Masters of Soaring contest... so as to NOT exclude anybody... we fly the following classes: Unlimited RES RES and Flaps RE and Flaps 2M 2M RES 2M RES and Flaps 2M RE and Flaps Woody Built up full house Woody RES Woody RES and Flaps Woody RE and Flaps Composite Built up full house Composite built up RES Composite built up RES and Flaps Composite built up RE and Flaps 2M Woody RES 2M Woody RES and Flaps 2M Woody RE and Flaps Oh and foam of all the above... We should also fly in each age group... I'm pretty sure I could take the born between May 20 and May 22, 1961 class (when did I get so freaking old???) But the class we're all really hoping for in creating all these classes is the... drum roll please There's no way I can beat Joe Wurts so what the heck is he NOT going to fly Class Oh, and John, can you make sure there is at least 5K per class in this for 1st place, so we can all afford to go??? If we have enough classes, I think we can all get wood... Sorry guys... this is killing me... Happy New Year to all! And I remember a time when we all came to a contest and flew whatever we wanted cuz it was fun... Had my ass handed to me plenty of times by built up POS's. Tongue in Cheek - have fun guys, D __ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 12/30/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies
Happy New Year to all! And I remember a time when we all came to a contest and flew whatever we wanted cuz it was fun... Had my ass handed to me plenty of times by built up POS's. Tongue in Cheek - have fun guys, D Let's remember one thing, pilot flys the plane to the winner circles, wood or not. All others will go to the whiner's circle. You can have the best plane in the world and still can't beat the lucky pilot who found the lift and can land in a spot that you can't fit a quarter in. Let have fun and not too worry about what you fly. Happy New Year to all and to all a good flight. Wait that does not sound as well with Christmas...oh well, life is not perfec. Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies
I find that it helps to look at the system. To do a TD task you have a pilot, plane, caller/timer, preparation, maintenance, conditions and luck. The better the first things are the less important is the last. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies
First, kudos to JR and the LSF for getting an idea rolling whose time has definitely come. The rules look like a true soaring contest and conditions at Muncie will keep it from being a landing contest. A combination of the group that puts on the NATS and the group that puts on a really classy aerotow event should result in a winner. A premier event at a premier site, when Indiana weather is at its best - who could ask for anything more? Now, about the mild hue cry regarding woodies at this competition. As primarily a woody flier myself, my first thought was that I'd volunteer to help and not take a spot from a more qualified or deserving pilot. Then the discussion ensued here on RCSE and I started thinking. As I understand it, the objective of this event is to promote and display R/C soaring with a premier competition. OK, so does premier competition mean the best flyers competing with the most competitive sailplanes available to them? If so, then why not pare down the number of entries to a smaller number and fly more rounds? But, if the promote and display part of the objective is taken seriously, then a large variety of sailplanes should indeed be a part. Right now there are a variety of somewhat prestigious events in the other venues of model aviation that do indeed draw a lot of spectators. I'm not sure that a large number of spectators always assures a large number of newcomers drawn to the hobby. Do a significant number of NASCAR fans become race drivers? Only in their dreams or video games. So, my thought is that the nature of the event is definitely in the hands of the organizers. I'm sure that they monitor and thoughtfully consider thoughtful comments made in this forum. Therefore let us continue to reason together without rancor or sarcasm and not let this discussion run down ratholes like builders vs. non-builders, floaters vs. lawn darts, and lengthy diatribes about whether or not the highest placing woody should qualify as an LSF win. Looking forward to a great 2006 flying season and a new primo event, Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies
In a message dated 12/31/2005 3:31:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Therefore let us continueto reason together without rancor or sarcasm and not let this discussion rundown ratholes like builders vs. non-builders, floaters vs. lawn darts, andlengthy diatribes about whether or not the highest placing "woody" shouldqualify as an LSF win. Amen Jim ! BG Bill GrenobleLSF 7558 IVHawksnest SoaringShermans Dale, PA
Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies
OK Jim from Valpo.. A couple of things: Your only wrong in one of your statements... do NASCAR fans become race drivers... and you said NO, Big Time Wrong Gong on that one...they become race car drivers on the city streets. Especially the young ones on the cell phone putting her make up on in the review mirror during 8:56 am drive time. The other thing... the rules of this event are: LSF Aspirants are eligible. In my opinion that leads to a reason for a woody class, where as in the previous years Masters, I believe only Level 3 or 4 qualified. My big hope here is some new, strong scratch woody designs show up that have legs and can launch hard. But that challenge has always been available at the NATS, so I'm not holding my breath for too many of them to show up, maybe one or two or three that I know of. Without a woody class and without NOS at AMA NATS. do you know where the most woody fun will be in 2006 ? Stay cool... Ray Hayes http://www.skybench.com Home of Wood Crafters - Original Message - From: Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 3:30 PM Subject: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies First, kudos to JR and the LSF for getting an idea rolling whose time has definitely come. The rules look like a true soaring contest and conditions at Muncie will keep it from being a landing contest. A combination of the group that puts on the NATS and the group that puts on a really classy aerotow event should result in a winner. A premier event at a premier site, when Indiana weather is at its best - who could ask for anything more? Now, about the mild hue cry regarding woodies at this competition. As primarily a woody flier myself, my first thought was that I'd volunteer to help and not take a spot from a more qualified or deserving pilot. Then the discussion ensued here on RCSE and I started thinking. As I understand it, the objective of this event is to promote and display R/C soaring with a premier competition. OK, so does premier competition mean the best flyers competing with the most competitive sailplanes available to them? If so, then why not pare down the number of entries to a smaller number and fly more rounds? But, if the promote and display part of the objective is taken seriously, then a large variety of sailplanes should indeed be a part. Right now there are a variety of somewhat prestigious events in the other venues of model aviation that do indeed draw a lot of spectators. I'm not sure that a large number of spectators always assures a large number of newcomers drawn to the hobby. Do a significant number of NASCAR fans become race drivers? Only in their dreams or video games. So, my thought is that the nature of the event is definitely in the hands of the organizers. I'm sure that they monitor and thoughtfully consider thoughtful comments made in this forum. Therefore let us continue to reason together without rancor or sarcasm and not let this discussion run down ratholes like builders vs. non-builders, floaters vs. lawn darts, and lengthy diatribes about whether or not the highest placing woody should qualify as an LSF win. Looking forward to a great 2006 flying season and a new primo event, Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies
I think that is the right attitude. I've had Ray beat me in MoM rounds with a woody against my ICON before. And he will certainly let you know it too, and hey, that's cool. ;-) And guys that want to fly their 2m's and RES models feel free to do so, there is no restrictions on that as well. I remember a certain OVSS contest in 2005 where Flyin' Brian won a contest with an Ava RES model. Not just by a little, but by a butt spankin' bunch of points. This is a fly what you bring contest, and you can use a couple of models. It really should be a blast! At 03:49 PM 12/31/2005, Ray Hayes wrote: My big hope here is some new, strong scratch woody designs show up that have legs and can launch hard. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies
OK...ok...I think I've got it. Mr. Diniz, are you taking notes??? I would like to propose for the Horizon/ JR Unlimited Masters of Soaring contest... so as to NOT exclude anybody... we fly the following classes: Unlimited RES RES and Flaps RE and Flaps 2M 2M RES 2M RES and Flaps 2M RE and Flaps Woody Built up full house Woody RES Woody RES and Flaps Woody RE and Flaps Composite Built up full house Composite built up RES Composite built up RES and Flaps Composite built up RE and Flaps 2M Woody RES 2M Woody RES and Flaps 2M Woody RE and Flaps Oh and foam of all the above... We should also fly in each age group... I'm pretty sure I could take the born between May 20 and May 22, 1961 class (when did I get so freaking old???) But the class we're all really hoping for in creating all these classes is the... drum roll please There's no way I can beat Joe Wurts so what the heck is he NOT going to fly Class Oh, and John, can you make sure there is at least 5K per class in this for 1st place, so we can all afford to go??? If we have enough classes, I think we can all get wood... Sorry guys... this is killing me... Happy New Year to all! And I remember a time when we all came to a contest and flew whatever we wanted cuz it was fun... Had my ass handed to me plenty of times by built up POS's. Tongue in Cheek - have fun guys, D __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies
Damn Daryl, are you that bored on New Years Eve that you had time to write this all down? I do not feel that bad, at least I was somewhere warm for the week. Happy new Years to all, '06 is looking really good! Marc RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters and Woodies
IT MUST BE WINTER RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format