Re: [RCSE] extreme, extreme, extreme...etc.
Hi Kevin, So, I'm to understand from your post that if we all gave up the 'high-dollar' fiberglass, foam, moulded sailplanes and the computer radios that there would be thousands of new guys suddenly enter the hobby? Everyone is entitled to an opinion... :-) Rick Orlando At 08:04 AM 3/30/01 +, Kevin O'Dell wrote: hi guys... first of alli've known d.o. for about 10 or 12 years now and know him pretty well. enough to know that he was flying r/c gliders and winning contests before most of us knew what a transmitter even looked like...he has built more gliders (yeah, the wood and silkspan type) than i care to think about. in other wordshe knows from where he speaksand i have to agree with him that the emphasis on the high dollar fiberglass and foam ships..of which i have my fair share...keeps a lot of folks out of this great hobby. Nostalgia is a good first start.and RES may be a good thing. all i'm saying is that we should LOOK for ways to make this facet of the hobby more attractive to newcomers. and remember, this is a HOBBYnot rocket science, and there is room for every opinionincluding the F3B is the most fun commentpersonally, i think that F3B pretty much STINKS...just my opinion. kevin o'dell RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] extreme, extreme, extreme...etc.
Rick Eckel wrote: Hi Kevin, So, I'm to understand from your post that if we all gave up the 'high-dollar' fiberglass, foam, moulded sailplanes and the computer radios that there would be thousands of new guys suddenly enter the hobby? Everyone is entitled to an opinion... :-) As I see it, expense is not what is keeping people out of the hobby. Go to any magazine stand and see how many RC soaring magazines are on the shelf. Now look to see how many Motorcycle offroad racing magazines are there. To get started in motorcycle racing takes at least $10,000 to start and costs $$$ every week, gas, oil, tires, pistons, rings, other parts, entry fees etc. So very expensive but there are LOTS of people racing motorcycles. Why? Excitement and exposure. People know that motorcycle racing exists. They can see it on TV nearly any day. People perceive racing as exciting both to participate and to watch. How many people find soaring exciting to watch? I mean besides those participating. :-)( -- Michael Neverdosky N6CHV AMA 77292 Click here and send a blank e-mail to receive The Netwriting Masters course... It's an intensive 5-Day e-mail course that shows you how to become an effective e-persuader. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Extreme, extreme, extreme...etc.
think that F3B pretty much STINKS...just my opinion. It is to bad you have not had a pleasant F3B experience...what can the F3B guys do to help you become more attracted to this fine event? One more turn Bozo Phil and Christine Lontz Tucson in the winter Summer in ??? 503 551 7030 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] extreme, extreme, extreme...etc.
I don't know about the fields you fly at, but here in So Cal many of our fields are surrounded by lots of houses, streets, churches, freeways and millions of eyeballs. It is an unusual day when we don't have at least several spectators stop by to look and ask questions. First they want to know where the motor is and then want to know why we use the a piece of string before we fly. Every one of us takes all the time necessary to educate our guests and invite them in to give soaring a try. They all look at all of the planes sitting around, especially admiring the shiny moldies resting on their stands, but seem to be attracted to the simple bent wing examples. I don't know if they fear the investment in a moldie or realize the RES planes are more appropriate to begin with, but most interest is in the simple wooden built up planes. A number of these visitors come back again and again, finally accepting our invitation to join us. Usually, in short order, a club member will then offer to give them an older but fully serviceable plane to learn to fly with. It is with great satisfaction that we watch our new member progress to the point where they can launch, fly and land with only a few words of advice or encouragement. The care they lavish on their old hand-me-down can teach us how we should treat our planes. Yes, this is a great hobby and bringing in the new fliers is definitely worth the time and effort spent. Dan - Original Message - From: "Chris Phil" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kevin O'Dell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "RC Soaring Exchange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] extreme, extreme, extreme...etc. on 3/30/01 1:04 AM, Kevin O'Dell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all i'm saying is that we should LOOK for ways to make this facet of the hobby more attractive to newcomers. Newcomers??? What??? There aren't any. So you can't make toy airplanes more attractive. People either like it or they don't. And it they don't one can not make it more attractive. Besides...just what is unattractive about this hobby anyway? One more turn Bozo. Anticounterclockwise please Phil and Christine Lontz Tucson in the winter Summer in your yard 503 551 7030 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] extreme, extreme, extreme...etc.
In a message dated 01-03-30 09:09:56 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nostalgia is a good first start.and RES may be a good thing. What about all off these bagged now molded RES ships that will be all the rage on the RES circuit. Nostalgia can be bothersome to get into because of the need to find Nostalgia 'legal' kits. all i'm saying is that we should LOOK for ways to make this facet of the hobby more attractive to newcomers. Go to your local hobby shop, plenty of entry level ships...Great planes Spirit, Gentle Ladies, Sig Risers (my choice as a 14 yr old kid). I think Risers and GL's can be had for ~$40...no need to LOOK, the options are already here. and remember, this is a HOBBYnot rocket science, and there is room for every opinionincluding the F3B is the most fun commentpersonally, i think that F3B pretty much STINKS...just my opinion. Actually it is "rocket science" as soon as you tinker or modify a design. :-) It's a shame about your F3b opinion, the truest test of sailplane piloting skill, man on man format, no sandbagging, all aspects of piloting and air reading skills used. Plus it is a hell of a lot of fun to get together with the 20+ other US f3b pilots for a wknd of extreme fun and camraderie. tom miller carlisle, pa RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]