RE: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?.... Who Cares ?
'Cause you suck???!!! :-) Klaus K Weiss Airsports R.C. www.airsportsrc.com.au _ From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2008 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom? Who Cares ? Why did Gordy do 50 places better than me with the exact same plane?
RE: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?.... Who Cares ?
Yes I do :-) hehe...
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From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom? Who
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Why did Gordy do 50 places better than me with the exact same plane?
Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?.... Who Cares ?
I rather enjoy seeing what ships the big dogs and competitors fly at important events. I know some folks could win with bricks and paper plates, but that is not what they chose to fly in the event. ;o) Brian - Original Message - From: Craig Allen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom? Who Cares ? What's the big deal about knowing what plane is being flown? You give most top pilots a F'n Brick and they will get their 9:55 and a 100.. So your an average pilot and you think buying the latest greatest plane is going to put you in the top ten? I don't think so.. Did you really do that much better with your prissy $2,000 Icon than if you had practiced with your $100 Oly2 ??? Why did Gordy do 50 places better than me with the exact same plane? Skills Baby.. :-))) Craig... PS... Wearing my Team Kiwi Shirt all week... Go USA Juniors and Team Z :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Sharon? Where are they in this list? Its not on the list because of its weight...but its a F3J list. Not a TD list, it got off the F3J list because of the need for late evening fast tow times.. Out of all the planes I own, you'd have to pry my Sharon from my dying hands before I'd give it up for TD. :-) Gordy Milwaukee tonite. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1528 - Release Date: 7/1/2008 7:26 AM
Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?....
From Jojo's blog http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/index.htm Thanks to the French team and the Norwegian team collecting data you can now see the complete list of models and transmitters. http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm Steve Meyer LSF IV Racine, WI RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?.... Who Cares ?
Craig, You've got to be kidding! David Craig Allen wrote: . Did you really do that much better with your prissy $2,000 Icon than if you had practiced with your $100 Oly2 ??? */ /*
Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?....Thanks! (F3J World Planes)
But wait... Didn't you get that link from that website that you hate and everyone can post anonymous? :-) Glad we don't have that problem here on RCSE. :-) Gordy :-) On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm Here's the kind of list that we have all dreamed would be posted after every USA TD contest ever held in history! :-). Take a look guys, it will show you whats considered hot in F3J right now...or at least what was available :-). Gordy Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?....
Gordy, As a designer, I look at the overall list as more of a Manufacturer's advertising list. Think about it, each plane costs over $2500 to have in flying condition, and each is like a Formula 1/Indy racer in it's own regard. For information on planes, I would be interested in 3 views (probably already available), weights, airfoils, etc. However, are any of the planes Original Designs? DP mentioned he was building a moldie a while back, and I was looking forward to hearing of it's results. Are the planes so close in performance that differences do not matter? Years ago, F3B Worlds used to distribute data on ships, new approaches to old problems etc. I compiled a DVD back in 2001 of IHLGF data and it was distributed. I an going to the German Open and home to take alot of pictures because how we address design issues for US conditions is alot different from the design conditions in Europe. I would love to see more regarding planes, setups, etc. Chris Original Message Subject: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?Thanks! (F3J World Planes) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, July 01, 2008 3:40 am To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm_ (http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm) Here's the kind of list that we have all dreamed would be posted after every USA TD contest ever held in history! :-). Take a look guys, it will show you whats considered hot in F3J right now...or at least what was available :-). Gordy **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Chris, That's more public info on one page than I've seen in awhile, and you want more :-) I think your analogy to Formula 1 is a good one. I'd bet that 95% of all glider guiders could not tell a difference between the top planes, especially given varying conditions when they would be flying the plane. The old sales trick of hooking up a glider into a thermal and then passing the transmitter is always effective. Man, this thing flies great! I've flown many of the designs listed and the differences between each one are not pronounced. A Supra and a Perfect you can tell, but when they are ballasted to the same wing loading it gets a little murkier. The Experience and the Perfect are really close, as is the Aspire (maybe a bit more float). The Espada is slippery, a little quicker in getting back from downwind but it like to be flown slightly faster due to the planform and airfoil. Like I said, the differences are not that pronounced and the decision at the top of the launch is WAY more important than the plane. Still the guys who are there have made their decision on what plane they like based on their own preferences. But it's not like that formula stays true forever. Remember the Icon? The Sharon? Where are they in this list? JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:02:13 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom? Gordy, As a designer, I look at the overall list as more of a Manufacturer's advertising list. Think about it, each plane costs over $2500 to have in flying condition, and each is like a Formula 1/Indy racer in it's own regard. For information on planes, I would be interested in 3 views (probably already available), weights, airfoils, etc. However, are any of the planes Original Designs? DP mentioned he was building a moldie a while back, and I was looking forward to hearing of it's results. Are the planes so close in performance that differences do not matter? Years ago, F3B Worlds used to distribute data on ships, new approaches to old problems etc. I compiled a DVD back in 2001 of IHLGF data and it was distributed. I an going to the German Open and home to take alot of pictures because how we address design issues for US conditions is alot different from the design conditions in Europe. I would love to see more regarding planes, setups, etc. Chris Original Message Subject: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?Thanks! (F3J World Planes) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, July 01, 2008 3:40 am To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm_ (http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm) Here's the kind of list that we have all dreamed would be posted after every USA TD contest ever held in history! :-). Take a look guys, it will show you whats considered hot in F3J right now...or at least what was available :-). Gordy **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?....
The Sharon? Where are they in this list? Its not on the list because of its weight...but its a F3J list. Not a TD list, it got off the F3J list because of the need for late evening fast tow times.. Out of all the planes I own, you'd have to pry my Sharon from my dying hands before I'd give it up for TD. :-) Gordy Milwaukee tonite. In a message dated 7/1/2008 2:36:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris, That's more public info on one page than I've seen in awhile, and you want more :-) I think your analogy to Formula 1 is a good one. I'd bet that 95% of all glider guiders could not tell a difference between the top planes, especially given varying conditions when they would be flying the plane. The old sales trick of hooking up a glider into a thermal and then passing the transmitter is always effective. Man, this thing flies great! I've flown many of the designs listed and the differences between each one are not pronounced. A Supra and a Perfect you can tell, but when they are ballasted to the same wing loading it gets a little murkier. The Experience and the Perfect are really close, as is the Aspire (maybe a bit more float). The Espada is slippery, a little quicker in getting back from downwind but it like to be flown slightly faster due to the planform and airfoil. Like I said, the differences are not that pronounced and the decision at the top of the launch is WAY more important than the plane. Still the guys who are there have made their decision on what plane they like based on their own preferences. But it's not like that formula stays true forever. Remember the Icon? The Sharon? Where are they in this list? JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:02:13 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom? Gordy, As a designer, I look at the overall list as more of a Manufacturer's advertising list. Think about it, each plane costs over $2500 to have in flying condition, and each is like a Formula 1/Indy racer in it's own regard. For information on planes, I would be interested in 3 views (probably already available), weights, airfoils, etc. However, are any of the planes Original Designs? DP mentioned he was building a moldie a while back, and I was looking forward to hearing of it's results. Are the planes so close in performance that differences do not matter? Years ago, F3B Worlds used to distribute data on ships, new approaches to old problems etc. I compiled a DVD back in 2001 of IHLGF data and it was distributed. I an going to the German Open and home to take alot of pictures because how we address design issues for US conditions is alot different from the design conditions in Europe. I would love to see more regarding planes, setups, etc. Chris Original Message Subject: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?Thanks! (F3J World Planes) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, July 01, 2008 3:40 am To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm_ (http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm) Here's the kind of list that we have all dreamed would be posted after every USA TD contest ever held in history! :-). Take a look guys, it will show you whats considered hot in F3J right now...or at least what was available :-). Gordy **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
Re: [RCSE] Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown By Whom?.... Who Cares ?
What's the big deal about knowing what plane is being flown? You give most top pilots a F'n Brick and they will get their 9:55 and a 100.. So your an average pilot and you think buying the latest greatest plane is going to put you in the top ten? I don't think so.. Did you really do that much better with your prissy $2,000 Icon than if you had practiced with your $100 Oly2 ??? Why did Gordy do 50 places better than me with the exact same plane? Skills Baby.. :-))) Craig... PS... Wearing my Team Kiwi Shirt all week... Go USA Juniors and Team Z :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Sharon? Where are they in this list? Its not on the list because of its weight...but its a F3J list. Not a TD list, it got off the F3J list because of the need for late evening fast tow times.. Out of all the planes I own, you'd have to pry my Sharon from my dying hands before I'd give it up for TD. :-) Gordy Milwaukee tonite.
