RE: [RCSE] What happened to bondo?

[Lydon, Matthew (NBC Universal)]

Title: RE: [RCSE] What happened to bondo?





Try West Systems fillers. These are powders you mix into epoxy, like microballons. They have a big range of fillers, from super-tough structural fillers with lots of fiber in them to a fairing filler which is nice and light while still being very tough. 

You can get them at Marine-supply stores, and read about them at westsystem.com




Matt



-Original Message-
From: Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:25 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] What happened to bondo?


I'm doing a wing fairing on a scale ship, and I just did a small batch of
short fiber Bondo - wow, does that stink.


I hadn't used this since my old Torino (back in the 70-80s), and it used to
be pink and fairly tame; at least that's what I remember. Now it's green,
and my shop (the whole house) reeks. I think I passed out at some point,
and I only mixed an apple sauce package worth.


I think I'm committed now, but is there a better way? Epoxy and carbosil?
I got the bondo tip from a pretty good scale ship guy, but he must have a
better ventilation system than I do.


I think I'm off to watch The Wall and listen to the Wizard of Oz...


B.


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Re: [RCSE] What happened to bondo?

[Tim Engel]

Brent,

There's no-fiber,  short fiber,  and long-fiber versions of Bondo.   The
no-fiber is the creamy version you remember.

Bondo and the competitive polyester body fillers are all heavier than you
should use on a model aircraft.   A mixture of epoxy and micro-balloons is
much lighter and sands more easily.   Mix the epoxy then stir in enough
micro-balloons to make a dry, stiff mix.   More micro-balloons makes for a
lighter filler.More epoxy is wetter and heavier.

For small spot filling (less weight build up),  polyester spot filler is an
air-dry product (no mixing) that comes in a tube.   However,  it also
stinks...  all polyester resin products do.   Polyester is not
house-friendly unless you live alone and have no sense of smell.   Or,
unless you want to live alone.

Good luck,
Tim



- Original Message - 
From: Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:24 PM
Subject: [RCSE] What happened to bondo?


 I'm doing a wing fairing on a scale ship, and I just did a small batch of
 short fiber Bondo - wow, does that stink.

 I hadn't used this since my old Torino (back in the 70-80s), and it used
to
 be pink and fairly tame; at least that's what I remember.  Now it's green,
 and my shop (the whole house) reeks.  I think I passed out at some point,
 and I only mixed an apple sauce package worth.

 I think I'm committed now, but is there a better way?  Epoxy and carbosil?
 I got the bondo tip from a pretty good scale ship guy, but he must have a
 better ventilation system than I do.

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RE: [RCSE] What happened to bondo?

[Mark Howard]

I have not tried this for fairings, but I'd be tempted to use
lightweight spackle for roughing in - and then maybe an epoxy/micro
balloon mix for surface strength.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: Tim Engel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 8:30 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] What happened to bondo?

Brent,

There's no-fiber,  short fiber,  and long-fiber versions of Bondo.   The
no-fiber is the creamy version you remember.

Bondo and the competitive polyester body fillers are all heavier than
you
should use on a model aircraft.   A mixture of epoxy and micro-balloons
is
much lighter and sands more easily.   Mix the epoxy then stir in enough
micro-balloons to make a dry, stiff mix.   More micro-balloons makes for
a
lighter filler.More epoxy is wetter and heavier.

For small spot filling (less weight build up),  polyester spot filler is
an
air-dry product (no mixing) that comes in a tube.   However,  it also
stinks...  all polyester resin products do.   Polyester is not
house-friendly unless you live alone and have no sense of smell.   Or,
unless you want to live alone.

Good luck,
Tim



- Original Message - 
From: Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:24 PM
Subject: [RCSE] What happened to bondo?


 I'm doing a wing fairing on a scale ship, and I just did a small batch
of
 short fiber Bondo - wow, does that stink.

 I hadn't used this since my old Torino (back in the 70-80s), and it
used
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Re: [RCSE] What happened to bondo?

[Dan]

Many, Moe,  Jack bought it all :~)

DanTim Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brent,There's no-fiber, short fiber, and long-fiber versions of Bondo. Theno-fiber is the creamy version you remember.Bondo and the competitive polyester body fillers are all heavier than youshould use on a model aircraft. A mixture of epoxy and micro-balloons ismuch lighter and sands more easily. Mix the epoxy then stir in enoughmicro-balloons to make a dry, stiff mix. More micro-balloons makes for alighter filler. More epoxy is wetter and heavier.For small spot filling (less weight build up), polyester spot filler is anair-dry product (no mixing) that comes in a tube. However, it alsostinks... all polyester resin products do. Polyester is nothouse-friendly unless you live alone and have no sense of smell. Or,unless you want to live alone.Good luck,Tim- Original Message - From: "Brent"
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Re: [RCSE] What happened to bondo?

[Michael Lachowski]

Try West Systems fillers.  The 405 and 407 would be suitable for 
building up fillets that require some strength.  If you just need to do 
some filling and want the easiest sanding, use the 410 microlight 
filler.  It is easier to sand than microballons.


Brent wrote:

I'm doing a wing fairing on a scale ship, and I just did a small batch of
short fiber Bondo - wow, does that stink.

I hadn't used this since my old Torino (back in the 70-80s), and it used to
be pink and fairly tame; at least that's what I remember.  Now it's green,
and my shop (the whole house) reeks.  I think I passed out at some point,
and I only mixed an apple sauce package worth.

I think I'm committed now, but is there a better way?  Epoxy and carbosil?
I got the bondo tip from a pretty good scale ship guy, but he must have a
better ventilation system than I do.

I think I'm off to watch The Wall and listen to the Wizard of Oz...

B.

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Re: [RCSE] What happened to bondo?

[Brian Chan]

At 9:24 PM -0400 10/25/05, Brent wrote:

I'm doing a wing fairing on a scale ship, and I just did a small batch of
short fiber Bondo - wow, does that stink.

I hadn't used this since my old Torino (back in the 70-80s), and it used to
be pink and fairly tame; at least that's what I remember.  Now it's green,
and my shop (the whole house) reeks.  I think I passed out at some point,
and I only mixed an apple sauce package worth.


 Try these:

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/cm/fillers.html

I use the Superfil., it is light and sands easy.  It will feather to nothing.


Brian
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