Re: [RCSE] Berg Reciever and Nimh battery Problem.

2000-03-29 Thread Y.K.Chan

Be considerate about low surge capacity (or significant internal
resistance) of some cell for HLG for our "weight watchers" out there (you
see such label is not limited for our ladies).  Look at the tail
configuration of your plane. It should be noted that V-tail rudder control
simultaineously call for two servo. This stretches the cell capacity that
can make things worse.
YK Chan
Seattle area.

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Re: [RCSE] Berg Reciever and Nimh battery Problem.

2000-03-28 Thread Ralph Weaver

At 08:25 PM 3/27/00 -0800, you wrote:
>I have a (4) servoed Wizard  D light with a Berg receiver and I am using a 
>Vision with (8) model memory.  I have had problems after recharge the 
>batteries and applying power to the receiver with the transmitter already 
>turned on, the servos go nuts and to full travel in opposite directions. 
>The battery pack that I made uses (4) cells from a Radio Shack Nimh 9 volt 
>pack. When I remove any (2) servos, the remaining (2) work normally.  The 
>also seems to work fine using plain nicad batteries. I haven't tried a (3) 
>Nimh pack yet, but that will be the next thing I try.  I haven't looked at 
>the system current draw to see if there might be causing problem.

The NiMH cells from the 9V Radio Shack battery that I tested would not put 
out enough current to run my system.  Very high internal resistance.

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RE: [RCSE] Berg Reciever and Nimh battery Problem.

2000-03-28 Thread Werner, Jason

Robert,
Check the voltage of the pack.  If I remember correctly, 4 cells fro
mthe 9v pack only come to like 4.6 v or something!  Under load this could
easially drop to <4v.  Add in wire resistance and other load and you can see
servos drop off.
It is great that people are using 3 cell packs for flying...but
realisticly that is not always going to work.  receivers were designed to
work on 4.8 to 7.2 volts.  Designed that way to handle 4 and more recently 5
cell ni-cad packs.  Three cell packs with a normal under load voltage of say
4.0v is signifigantly outside of the operating range.  In most electronics
that I have seen, 2-5% out of spec can create problems.  Using a 3 cell pack
is over 15% out of spec.  It is truly suprising that it works .
But anyway, since it works fine with ni-cads, try just using them.  I
have 2 Wizzards, and both required 110x4cell ni-cad packs minimum to balance
correctly.  One used 150s.  The optimum is the 400mah Lithium metal
batteries (2cells, 6 volts, weight of a 5 cell 50mah pack!).
 
Jason Werner

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Subject: [RCSE] Berg Reciever and Nimh battery Problem.


I have a (4) servoed Wizard  D light with a Berg receiver and I am using a
Vision with (8) model memory.  I have had problems after recharge the
batteries and applying power to the receiver with the transmitter already
turned on, the servos go nuts and to full travel in opposite directions. The
battery pack that I made uses (4) cells from a Radio Shack Nimh 9 volt pack.
When I remove any (2) servos, the remaining (2) work normally.  The also
seems to work fine using plain nicad batteries. I haven't tried a (3) Nimh
pack yet, but that will be the next thing I try.  I haven't looked at the
system current draw to see if there might be causing problem.
 
Any suggestion would be appreciated. 

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Re: [RCSE] Berg Reciever and Nimh battery Problem.

2000-03-28 Thread Tom Broeski



There were some bad xtals produced, so you might want to check that also. 
JR are compatible if you don't have other Bergs.
Tom
Robert Massmann wrote:

I
have a (4) servoed Wizard  D light with a Berg receiver and I am using
a Vision with (8) model memory.  I have had problems after recharge
the batteries and applying power to the receiver with the transmitter already
turned on, the servos go nuts and to full travel in opposite directions.
The battery pack that I made uses (4) cells from a Radio Shack Nimh 9 volt
pack. When I remove any (2) servos, the remaining (2) work normally. 
The also seems to work fine using plain nicad batteries. I haven't tried
a (3) Nimh pack yet, but that will be the next thing I try.  I haven't
looked at the system current draw to see if there might be causing problem. Any
suggestion would be appreciated.

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