RE: [RCSE] Price of DLG's

2007-11-29 Thread ASK at RC Builder
>On RCGroups tonight I saw something that I thought I would never see for sale, 
>a $1K DLG, 
>it is a Vandal fullhouse ship with RADS.  Be the first to admit that I have 
>spent my 
>fair share on ships, but a DLG for $1000?  That environment is >way too tough 
>on airframes 
>for me to toss that amount up into the crowded HLG skies.  Hell, it is too 
>tough for $150 ships.

Marc,
That is pretty normal now for top-end DLGs.

You can RTF a competitive DLG (from an ARF) yourself for as little as $500-$600 
or so in plane and electronics. A Vandal is a small shop competition-class 
glider with (my guesstimate) 30 or more hours of construction and assembly 
labor in it, ~$100 in materials, $175-225 in electronics. Don't forget the four 
RDS (RAD) installations. 1K sounds about right for a glider in near-new 
condition. And Vandal is a GREAT glider. Ask anyone who has flown one.

As to how tough the flying environment is for hand launch, yeah, hand launch is 
very demanding flying. You get to see how good your soaring skills are, really 
quickly! 

Why do so many people love hand launch? I think because meeting the hand launch 
challenge is so satisfying, especially when you have a great-flying plane. They 
do things that seem almost impossible.

We have so many good planes to choose from now, one might think the cost would 
come down. Unfortunately, it takes *a lot* of time and effort to create one of 
these goodies.

The best dollar deal is to build it yourself. We all pay in dollars or time. ;)

Aradhana Singh Khalsa
Espanola, NM
 


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Re: [RCSE] Price of DLG's

2007-11-28 Thread Ben Wilson
Nothing like good ol' market forces to drive things up!  The Vandal is 
the hot ship on the west coast, and they are few and far between from 
what I hear. 


Get yourself  three $300 Polecat Sidewinder II's and fly for years!


Marc Gellart wrote:

On RCGroups tonight I saw something that I thought I would never see for sale, 
a $1K DLG, it is a Vandal fullhouse ship with RADS.  Be the first to admit that 
I have spent my fair share on ships, but a DLG for $1000?  That environment is 
way too tough on airframes for me to toss that amount up into the crowded HLG 
skies.  Hell, it is too tough for $150 ships.

Marc
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Re: [RCSE] Price of DLG's

2007-11-27 Thread Pat McCleave

Marc,

Even more amazing is the fact it took no time at all to sale.  Of course if 
you take into consideration that the plane was completely ready to fly and 
basically brand new, most of the top line competitive planes out there are 
nearly the same price by the time you buy the air frame, the electronics and 
spend any time building or should I say installing the gear in the plane. 
Most of us do not consider our time spent building when we figure in the 
cost of a model but on average I would say most ARFs would qualify to add at 
least a couple of hundred dollars for the build.  It does not take long to 
add up to close to a grand for any of the latest and greatest DLG's.  I just 
wish my old, fat, out of shape body and bum ankle would still allow me to 
enjoy chucking a $1000 DLG around.  I guess I will have to stick to a really 
cool Electron II Electric that flies  like a DLG on Roids and is easy on the 
body.


See Ya,

Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS
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Subject: [RCSE] Price of DLG's


On RCGroups tonight I saw something that I thought I would never see for 
sale, a $1K DLG, it is a Vandal fullhouse ship with RADS.  Be the first to 
admit that I have spent my fair share on ships, but a DLG for $1000?  That 
environment is way too tough on airframes for me to toss that amount up 
into the crowded HLG skies.  Hell, it is too tough for $150 ships.


Marc
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RE: [RCSE] Price of DLG's

2007-11-27 Thread mike
Well, I honestly think that Geoff Jones simply does not want to work for free.  I think that the $1000 comes with servos and stuff too.  If that makes a difference.  For the same price, I have an Aspirin (fully molded and designed by Andreas Herrig)  Marc, I agree...a tough environment to be sure.  I am a study in defensive flying with all that hardware in the sky at once.  You may notice me NOT in the middle of the group.  Also, I make sure that, every once in a while, during practice, with a lot of people watching, I flub a launch so bad that people give me a little extra clearance for their own safety...  You know, like in the movie "Bull Durham"?  When Kevin Costner tells the rookie pitcher Tim Robbins to throw a pitch at the mascot.just to keep 'em guessing  :-)
 
Cheers, but not too close ;-)
 
Mike
 Original Message Subject: Re: [RCSE] Price of DLG'sFrom: "Jay Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Tue, November 27, 2007 7:38 pmTo: "Soaring Exchange" I saw that too, and I have to admit I just don't get it.  Why so much for the Vandal?
On Nov 27, 2007 7:06 PM, Marc Gellart <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
On RCGroups tonight I saw something that I thought I would never see for sale, a $1K DLG, it is a Vandal fullhouse ship with RADS.  Be the first to admit that I have spent my fair share on ships, but a DLG for $1000?  That environment is way too tough on airframes for me to toss that amount up into the crowded HLG skies.  Hell, it is too tough for $150 ships. MarcRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.  Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED].  Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.  Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format 
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Re: [RCSE] Price of DLG's

2007-11-27 Thread Jay Hunter
I saw that too, and I have to admit I just don't get it.  Why so much for
the Vandal?

On Nov 27, 2007 7:06 PM, Marc Gellart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On RCGroups tonight I saw something that I thought I would never see for
> sale, a $1K DLG, it is a Vandal fullhouse ship with RADS.  Be the first to
> admit that I have spent my fair share on ships, but a DLG for $1000?  That
> environment is way too tough on airframes for me to toss that amount up into
> the crowded HLG skies.  Hell, it is too tough for $150 ships.
>
> Marc
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