Re: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio?

2000-11-24 Thread Marler, Jeff

I think I am confused here. I do not fly with one with more experience than
me so this is how I set my glider up. 
I use my 3-position switch for camber, normal and reflex and use my throttle
stick for crow and butterfly. For launching, I set my throttle stick on
butterfly and move the stick down to the needed flaps and ailerons setting
for the conditions. This way I can take the flaps/ailerons off slowly and in
control for the zoom at the top. Does this sound right or am I not setting
my radio up to properly?
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Re: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio?

2000-11-15 Thread Adam Till

Oh, I fully realize what you were talking about - I was disagreeing with the 
statement that you need to dive excessively. What's the point in bleeding 
off altitude for airspeed? That isn't what a zoom is about. Sure you need a 
mild dive to perform this, but you don't need a steep one. The added effect 
from the zoom is gained mainly from tensioning the line...not from dive 
speed. That's why the wings need to be that strong on zoomable airplanes, 
the winch is almost pulling directly downwards with up to 200lb of line 
tension.

Adam

>From: Jeff Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio?
>Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:34:24 -0800
>
> >why would it be better to lose rudder control vs. elevator control?
> >A properly trimmed sailplane should only need rudder inputs before
> >zooming on tow...even then it's only a very mild dive-entry
>
>I was referring to contest style zooom launches, like F3J.
>Dive entry is not mild at all. Tension and speed are built up during
>the first few seconds of launch, then glider is nosed down fairly
>steeply to convert tension into more speed, 80mph or more, then the
>glider is nosed up to almost vertical, gaining almost another
>200 feet in altitude. The purpose of this is to get maximum altitude
>out of a fixed length line.
>
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Re: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio?

2000-11-15 Thread Jeff Reid

>why would it be better to lose rudder control vs. elevator control?
>A properly trimmed sailplane should only need rudder inputs before
>zooming on tow...even then it's only a very mild dive-entry 

I was referring to contest style zooom launches, like F3J.
Dive entry is not mild at all. Tension and speed are built up during
the first few seconds of launch, then glider is nosed down fairly
steeply to convert tension into more speed, 80mph or more, then the
glider is nosed up to almost vertical, gaining almost another
200 feet in altitude. The purpose of this is to get maximum altitude
out of a fixed length line.


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RE: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio?

2000-11-14 Thread Paul Ferguson

The positioning of the 3-position switch on all cheaper commercial radios is
lousy. At least with JR/Graupner MC-18/20/24s and Multiplex 3030/4000s you
can position any switch where is feels most comfortable. Better still (if
you can get used to flying with fingers AND thumbs - which I cannot) you can
mount the switch on the end of the stick.

Paul Ferguson
Adelaide, Australia

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Yes, you don't move it until near the top, but why would you want to take
your hand off the stick at ANY point in the launch, if you didn't have
toI have an 8u, and didn't feel comfortable doing it, but I CAN if I
have to...but I'd rather not have to.

I presume that the guys in competition would feel so even more, as to a
great extent, the best launches (and landings) win the contests.

Matt
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> Okay, I guess. But why would you even need to touch that switch until near
> the top of the launch (launch camber to relexed)? Fooling with camber on
the
> acceleration phase of the launch seems like asking for trouble to me. I
can
> see why launch mode for HLG's is on the left (for right-handed people),
> spring-loaded at that, but it seems to be a non-issue for assisted
launches.
>
> Adam
>
> >From: "Matt Lydon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Adam Till" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio?
> >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:44:53 -0500
> >
> >So that you don't have to take your hand off the stick to operate the
> >switch
> >while launching
> >
> >Matt
> >
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> >From: "Adam Till" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:36 PM
> >Subject: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio?
> >
> >
> > > >From: "Jones, Philip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > ..but look for the glider version of possible because it
> > > >has the 3 position 'start - normal - speed' camber switch on the
left.
> > >
> > > Why do people prefer to have this switch on the left? The CROW (is
this
> >an
> > > acronymn or not?) switch is set permanantly for switch A (on left), so
> >why
> > > not keep the other primary function on the right? I'm just used to
> >having
> >it
> > > on the right, but I'm curious if I'm missing something here.
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
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Re: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio?

2000-11-14 Thread Matt Lydon

Yes, you don't move it until near the top, but why would you want to take
your hand off the stick at ANY point in the launch, if you didn't have
toI have an 8u, and didn't feel comfortable doing it, but I CAN if I
have to...but I'd rather not have to.

I presume that the guys in competition would feel so even more, as to a
great extent, the best launches (and landings) win the contests.

Matt
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From: "Adam Till" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio?


> Okay, I guess. But why would you even need to touch that switch until near
> the top of the launch (launch camber to relexed)? Fooling with camber on
the
> acceleration phase of the launch seems like asking for trouble to me. I
can
> see why launch mode for HLG's is on the left (for right-handed people),
> spring-loaded at that, but it seems to be a non-issue for assisted
launches.
>
> Adam
>
> >From: "Matt Lydon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Adam Till" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio?
> >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:44:53 -0500
> >
> >So that you don't have to take your hand off the stick to operate the
> >switch
> >while launching
> >
> >Matt
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Adam Till" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:36 PM
> >Subject: 3-Position Switch was RE: [RCSE] Which computer radio?
> >
> >
> > > >From: "Jones, Philip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > ..but look for the glider version of possible because it
> > > >has the 3 position 'start - normal - speed' camber switch on the
left.
> > >
> > > Why do people prefer to have this switch on the left? The CROW (is
this
> >an
> > > acronymn or not?) switch is set permanantly for switch A (on left), so
> >why
> > > not keep the other primary function on the right? I'm just used to
> >having
> >it
> > > on the right, but I'm curious if I'm missing something here.
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
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