Re: [Soekris] net5501 cf booting as hdb
Steve Holdoway wrote: > On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:13:54 -0600 > "Darrick Hartman (lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Andy Michaels wrote: >>> On Feb 16, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Darrick Hartman (lists) wrote: >>> What would cause a net5501 to boot a compact flash as /dev/hdb? I have no other storage device connected. The compact flash card is a Transcend Industrial (1GB Ultra non-dma fixed disk). I thought there was a thread about this late last year, but I can't seem to find it at the moment. Darrick -- >>> Hmmm, the only thing I can suggest is to check your udev settings. >>> I'm assuming you're using linux with a device name like "/dev/hdb". I >>> once had an issue where my soekris box's NICs showed up as eth3, >>> eth4, eth5. It turns out that because the disk image I used to set up >>> that soekris was created on another soekris, it (correctly) recognized >>> the NICs on this soekris as new devices. Sounds like that could be >>> what's happening to you. Or, it might not be :) >> I'm guessing not. The CF is being detected the the net5501 bios as >> being primary slave. > > That's just the way they're made. Some are set up as primary, some > secondary... > I guess I can live with that as long as it's going to stay the same on each boot. Looking back through the online archives, I did find where this was mentioned as far back as 2004 and saw the full explanation about how some cards don't properly initialize the cable select function. At least these boot. I ran across some "industrial" cards that are labeled as INNODISK iCF 2000. These won't even boot in a net5501. They will work in some other devices I have though so worse case, I have 2 1GB cards for my camera. Darrick -- Darrick Hartman DJH Solutions, LLC http://www.djhsolutions.com ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 cf booting as hdb
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:13:54 -0600 "Darrick Hartman (lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy Michaels wrote: > > On Feb 16, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Darrick Hartman (lists) wrote: > > > >> What would cause a net5501 to boot a compact flash as /dev/hdb? > >> > >> I have no other storage device connected. The compact flash card is a > >> Transcend Industrial (1GB Ultra non-dma fixed disk). > >> > >> I thought there was a thread about this late last year, but I can't > >> seem > >> to find it at the moment. > >> > >> Darrick > >> -- > > > > Hmmm, the only thing I can suggest is to check your udev settings. > > I'm assuming you're using linux with a device name like "/dev/hdb". I > > once had an issue where my soekris box's NICs showed up as eth3, > > eth4, eth5. It turns out that because the disk image I used to set up > > that soekris was created on another soekris, it (correctly) recognized > > the NICs on this soekris as new devices. Sounds like that could be > > what's happening to you. Or, it might not be :) > > I'm guessing not. The CF is being detected the the net5501 bios as > being primary slave. > > -- > Darrick Hartman > DJH Solutions, LLC > http://www.djhsolutions.com > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech That's just the way they're made. Some are set up as primary, some secondary... -- Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 cf booting as hdb
Andy Michaels wrote: > On Feb 16, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Darrick Hartman (lists) wrote: > >> What would cause a net5501 to boot a compact flash as /dev/hdb? >> >> I have no other storage device connected. The compact flash card is a >> Transcend Industrial (1GB Ultra non-dma fixed disk). >> >> I thought there was a thread about this late last year, but I can't >> seem >> to find it at the moment. >> >> Darrick >> -- > > Hmmm, the only thing I can suggest is to check your udev settings. > I'm assuming you're using linux with a device name like "/dev/hdb". I > once had an issue where my soekris box's NICs showed up as eth3, > eth4, eth5. It turns out that because the disk image I used to set up > that soekris was created on another soekris, it (correctly) recognized > the NICs on this soekris as new devices. Sounds like that could be > what's happening to you. Or, it might not be :) I'm guessing not. The CF is being detected the the net5501 bios as being primary slave. -- Darrick Hartman DJH Solutions, LLC http://www.djhsolutions.com ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 cf booting as hdb
On Feb 16, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Darrick Hartman (lists) wrote: > What would cause a net5501 to boot a compact flash as /dev/hdb? > > I have no other storage device connected. The compact flash card is a > Transcend Industrial (1GB Ultra non-dma fixed disk). > > I thought there was a thread about this late last year, but I can't > seem > to find it at the moment. > > Darrick > -- Hmmm, the only thing I can suggest is to check your udev settings. I'm assuming you're using linux with a device name like "/dev/hdb". I once had an issue where my soekris box's NICs showed up as eth3, eth4, eth5. It turns out that because the disk image I used to set up that soekris was created on another soekris, it (correctly) recognized the NICs on this soekris as new devices. Sounds like that could be what's happening to you. Or, it might not be :) -Andy ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] net5501 cf booting as hdb
What would cause a net5501 to boot a compact flash as /dev/hdb? I have no other storage device connected. The compact flash card is a Transcend Industrial (1GB Ultra non-dma fixed disk). I thought there was a thread about this late last year, but I can't seem to find it at the moment. Darrick -- Darrick Hartman DJH Solutions, LLC http://www.djhsolutions.com ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] About EOL
hi all, thank you for the response. regards dharani On Feb 15, 2008 2:58 AM, Wim Vandeputte - Mailinglists only <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the 4801-50 and 4801-60 are replaced by the 4801-48 for a short time > and then the 5501-60 > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 09:07:47AM -0800, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan wrote: > > hi, > > > > i am rejoining this mailing list after a long pause and i have some quick > > questions. > > > > i noticed that soekris has many EOL products due to parts unavailability. > > will they be replaced with similar products? if so, what would be the > > processors used? where can i find more details on these upcoming replacement > > products? > > > > any help appreciated. > > > > thanks > > dharani > > > > ___ > > Soekris-tech mailing list > > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] net5501 and JP10, DC Power
Hi Stefan, Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus wrote: > Hello, > > there is still no manual for the net5501 but I have a question regarding > "internal" power supply. The manual for net4801 says that the JP10 can > be used to supply power instead of the front board power supply. Is this > still true for the net5501 board? > > Quote of the net4801 manual: > JP10, DC Power > 6 pins AMP MTA100 header, for connecting of internal power supply. Also > has 2 of the GP IO pins, for use with advanced power management. Can be > used with a 5V DC power supply if pin 3 and 4 are connected together, or > with a 6V to 28V DC power supply if only pin 3 are used. When the board > is viewed as on the illustration, pin 1 is the top pin, at the JP10 > text. > > Is this also still true? Can someone confirm this? Yes, the net4801 and net5501 use basically the same internal power supply and have the same use of the 6 pins internal power connector. Best Regards, Soren Kristensen CEO & Chief Engineer Soekris Engineering, Inc. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] net5501 and JP10, DC Power
Hello, there is still no manual for the net5501 but I have a question regarding "internal" power supply. The manual for net4801 says that the JP10 can be used to supply power instead of the front board power supply. Is this still true for the net5501 board? Quote of the net4801 manual: JP10, DC Power 6 pins AMP MTA100 header, for connecting of internal power supply. Also has 2 of the GP IO pins, for use with advanced power management. Can be used with a 5V DC power supply if pin 3 and 4 are connected together, or with a 6V to 28V DC power supply if only pin 3 are used. When the board is viewed as on the illustration, pin 1 is the top pin, at the JP10 text. Is this also still true? Can someone confirm this? Best regards Stefan ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] 5501 under Debian can not see harddisk 5K160
On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 09:55 +0100, René Luckow wrote: > You could just use a "IDE2CF adapter on the PATA thingie? Note the expressions "smaller" and "on-board" in my text. To me, that PATA/SATA thing is just unnecessary complexity, weight and cost. I don't use it and I'm not planning to. I would very much appreciate a scaled-down Soekris model with dual CF. And slots in the side for the CF cards, if possible;). Just a small-scale brainstorm. Bill > On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Bill Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > this is what I was referring to in my previous e-mail: > > http://lists.soekris.com/pipermail/soekris-tech/2007-January/011447.html > > or: > > http://readlist.com/lists/lists.soekris.com/soekris-tech/0/1379.html > > > > There were lots of CF/HDD trouble posts around this period, so this > > should serve as a good starting point for searching more info about > > CF/HDD issues. > > > > Speaking of CF/IDE/ATA/SATA: are there any plans for a smaller board > > with _no_ HDD support but with a second on-board CF adapter? To me, that > > would be _really_ useful. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 08:51 +0100, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > > I think its a misconception on Otfrieds part. You can use the CF and the > > > Harddrive at the same time. However you cannot use the IDE connector, > > > SATA connector and CF at the same time, it is two out of three if I > > > recall correctly. There was a thread about it, but I can't locate it. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Pontus. > > > > > > MikaelArhelger skrev: > > > > How does that make sense? > > > > I want to boot linux from CF card and store data on hdd: That makes > > sense, > > > > does it not? > > > > > > > > Mikael > > > > > > > > > > > > Otfried Geffert-2 wrote: > > > > > > > >> I remember: you can either use one or the other. > > > >> > > > >> Either you use the harddisk and do not "see"the CF card > > > >> or vice versa. I think that is a hardware issue - the board > > > >> is designed that way. > > > >> > > > >> Otfried > > > >> > > > >> - Original Message - > > > >> From: "Mikael Arhelger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> To: > > > >> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:07 PM > > > >> Subject: [Soekris] 5501 under Debian can not see harddisk 5K160 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> Got my first 5501 and booting Debian from 2GB Kingston CF card. > > > >>> Can do fidsk -l to see only /dev/hdb but not the harddisk; a Hitachi > > > >>> 5K160 ATA 40GB. > > > >>> > > > >>> A sync command will make the yellow LED brighter for a short time > > > >>> (split second). > > > >>> > > > >>> Any idea? Bios can not see or ... > > > >>> > > > >>> Any pointer appreciated. > > > >>> ___ > > > >>> Soekris-tech mailing list > > > >>> Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > > > >>> http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > > > >>> > > > >> ___ > > > >> Soekris-tech mailing list > > > >> Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > > > >> http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Soekris-tech mailing list > > > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > > > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > > > > > > > -- > > "What's a computer?" - MES > > > > ___ > > > > > > Soekris-tech mailing list > > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > > > > > -- "What's a computer?" - MES ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
