Re: [Soekris] Replace an ADSL modem-router
On 2009-08-19, Lars Nooden l...@umich.edu wrote: Chris Cappuccio wrote: Lars Nooden [l...@umich.edu] wrote: Chris Cappuccio wrote: this is essentially the same as an ultra-cheap versatek 170p modem... Not at all the same capabilities. Compare: http://www.traverse.com.au/downloads/adsl/vikingdat_03.pdf http://www.versatek.com/products/vxver170p.htm conexant vs. broadcom. a few more features on the v170p I think. Point to a HOWTO for running the 170p with NetBSD, OpenBSD or a Linux. I'll write one. Here it is: 1. Plug in the ethernet cable 2. ifconfig YourEthernet0 192.168.0.2/24 3. Telnet or HTTP to 192.168.0.1 4. Configure VPI/VCI and mode (RFC 1483 bridging, PPPoA, PPPoE, etc...) 5. Party like it's 1999 Hmm. You've skipped the part about loading the 170p with OpenWRT, Tomato, PFSense or something similar... the 170p would just be used instead of the viking card, not the whole card+soekris combination. it's nice to have a way to avoid the separate box, power supply and cable, but you clearly pay extra for that. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Replace an ADSL modem-router
Lars Nooden [l...@umich.edu] wrote: Chris Cappuccio wrote: this is essentially the same as an ultra-cheap versatek 170p modem... Not at all the same capabilities. Compare: http://www.traverse.com.au/downloads/adsl/vikingdat_03.pdf http://www.versatek.com/products/vxver170p.htm Point to a HOWTO for running the 170p with NetBSD, OpenBSD or a Linux. I'll write one. Here it is: 1. Plug in the ethernet cable 2. ifconfig YourEthernet0 192.168.0.2/24 3. Telnet or HTTP to 192.168.0.1 4. Configure VPI/VCI and mode (RFC 1483 bridging, PPPoA, PPPoE, etc...) 5. Party like it's 1999 ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Replace an ADSL modem-router
Chris Cappuccio wrote: Lars Nooden [l...@umich.edu] wrote: Chris Cappuccio wrote: this is essentially the same as an ultra-cheap versatek 170p modem... Not at all the same capabilities. Compare: http://www.traverse.com.au/downloads/adsl/vikingdat_03.pdf http://www.versatek.com/products/vxver170p.htm Point to a HOWTO for running the 170p with NetBSD, OpenBSD or a Linux. I'll write one. Here it is: 1. Plug in the ethernet cable 2. ifconfig YourEthernet0 192.168.0.2/24 3. Telnet or HTTP to 192.168.0.1 4. Configure VPI/VCI and mode (RFC 1483 bridging, PPPoA, PPPoE, etc...) 5. Party like it's 1999 Hmm. You've skipped the part about loading the 170p with OpenWRT, Tomato, PFSense or something similar... -Lars ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Replace an ADSL modem-router
Lars Nooden [l...@umich.edu] wrote: Chris Cappuccio wrote: Lars Nooden [l...@umich.edu] wrote: Chris Cappuccio wrote: this is essentially the same as an ultra-cheap versatek 170p modem... Not at all the same capabilities. Compare: http://www.traverse.com.au/downloads/adsl/vikingdat_03.pdf http://www.versatek.com/products/vxver170p.htm Point to a HOWTO for running the 170p with NetBSD, OpenBSD or a Linux. I'll write one. Here it is: 1. Plug in the ethernet cable 2. ifconfig YourEthernet0 192.168.0.2/24 3. Telnet or HTTP to 192.168.0.1 4. Configure VPI/VCI and mode (RFC 1483 bridging, PPPoA, PPPoE, etc...) 5. Party like it's 1999 Hmm. You've skipped the part about loading the 170p with OpenWRT, Tomato, PFSense or something similar... The Broadcom ADSL chipset on the 170p is the same chipset used on the realtek/adsl combo card. I can't tell if you're trolling me or if these things are really supported by some open crap. It's not trivial since the 170p has something like 2mb flash and 1mb ram. The ATM stuff is all emulated in software by the Linux kernel with the 170p default software but I think the ADSL chip bundle is probably some proprietary blob. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Replace an ADSL modem-router
http://michele.pupazzo.org/diary/?p=329 It works well with OpenBSD too, since the Viking exposes itself to the system as a standard RTL8139C+ PCI interface Ciao, David 2009/8/9 Alexandre Westfahl awestf...@gmail.com: Hello, I like OpenBSD and I want to replace my ISP modem-router by a soekris. Concerning LAN part, no problem. But, for ADSL/ADSL2+ part, it's more difficult. I was looking for a mini-pci card but it seems it doesn't exist! If I want to take a PCI modem card, I must take net5501 which is the only one with PCI slot. I found this out of some mailing lists, it seems soekris and openbsd support it but I want to be sure before buying :) http://www.traverse.com.au/productview.php?product_id=115 Has anyone created an ADSL modem router? Does it work fine? Btw, do you have any experience with viking cards? Is the lifetime good? Thanks a lot -- Alexandre Westfahl, Free Software consultant ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Replace an ADSL modem-router
Am 10.08.2009 um 13:13 schrieb David Coppa: http://michele.pupazzo.org/diary/?p=329 It works well with OpenBSD too, since the Viking exposes itself to the system as a standard RTL8139C+ PCI interface did you actually try this? if so, is there a supplier in europe for these cards? Ciao, David 2009/8/9 Alexandre Westfahl awestf...@gmail.com: Hello, I like OpenBSD and I want to replace my ISP modem-router by a soekris. Concerning LAN part, no problem. But, for ADSL/ADSL2+ part, it's more difficult. I was looking for a mini-pci card but it seems it doesn't exist! If I want to take a PCI modem card, I must take net5501 which is the only one with PCI slot. I found this out of some mailing lists, it seems soekris and openbsd support it but I want to be sure before buying :) http://www.traverse.com.au/productview.php?product_id=115 Has anyone created an ADSL modem router? Does it work fine? Btw, do you have any experience with viking cards? Is the lifetime good? Thanks a lot -- Alexandre Westfahl, Free Software consultant ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Replace an ADSL modem-router
I like OpenBSD and I want to replace my ISP modem-router by a soekris. Concerning LAN part, no problem. But, for ADSL/ADSL2+ part, it's more difficult. I was looking for a mini-pci card but it seems it doesn't exist! If I want to take a PCI modem card, I must take net5501 which is the only one with PCI slot. I found this out of some mailing lists, it seems soekris and openbsd support it but I want to be sure before buying :) http://www.traverse.com.au/productview.php?product_id=115 Has anyone created an ADSL modem router? Does it work fine? Btw, do you have any experience with viking cards? Is the lifetime good? A good solution with OpenBSD is to use a regular ADSL Modem/Router in bridge mode and terminate the PPPOE session on your OpenBSD firewall using the pppoe(4) kernel driver. That works very reliable. - Marc Balmer ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] Replace an ADSL modem-router
Hello, I like OpenBSD and I want to replace my ISP modem-router by a soekris. Concerning LAN part, no problem. But, for ADSL/ADSL2+ part, it's more difficult. I was looking for a mini-pci card but it seems it doesn't exist! If I want to take a PCI modem card, I must take net5501 which is the only one with PCI slot. I found this out of some mailing lists, it seems soekris and openbsd support it but I want to be sure before buying :) http://www.traverse.com.au/productview.php?product_id=115 Has anyone created an ADSL modem router? Does it work fine? Btw, do you have any experience with viking cards? Is the lifetime good? Thanks a lot -- Alexandre Westfahl, Free Software consultant ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Replace an ADSL modem-router
Hi Alexandre, Alexandre Westfahl writes: I like OpenBSD and I want to replace my ISP modem-router by a soekris. Concerning LAN part, no problem. But, for ADSL/ADSL2+ part, it's more difficult. Indeed. I was looking for a mini-pci card but it seems it doesn't exist! I didn't manage to find one when I was looking either. Given the size of the Viking card, and the general target market, I'm not really surprised that they're not out there. If I want to take a PCI modem card, I must take net5501 which is the only one with PCI slot. The net4801 can also take a standard PCI card, though I can't see any reason to prefer it over the net5501. I found this out of some mailing lists, it seems soekris and openbsd support it but I want to be sure before buying :) http://www.traverse.com.au/productview.php?product_id=115 I have such a card in my old, reliable net4801. It works just fine, though it runs a bit too hot for the completely enclosed case of the Soekris, so I needed to add some ventilation holes to prevent it from overheating. I'm running Linux, so I can't say for certain that OpenBSD will work, but the card presents itself as an RTL-8139 which has been around for a long time now. I'd be deeply surprised if it didn't just work. The Traverse Tech web page you list above indicates that it has *BSD support, so if it doesn't work, you can probably send it back. Has anyone created an ADSL modem router? Does it work fine? It works fine for me: there's almost no load on the Soekris, even when running the card in bridged mode. And the CPU in my net4801 is substantially slower than the one in the net5501. Btw, do you have any experience with viking cards? Is the lifetime good? This is my first such card, but I haven't had any problems with it (once it had sufficient ventilation) over the year that I've had it, and it's been running 24/7 the whole time. Cheers, -Ted ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
