Re: Scene crash on load
Hi Ronald, Would it be possible to email me the scene , so that the we can investigate the crash ? My email address is ivan@nospam.autodesk.com (remove nospam) Thanks! -Ivan On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: I tried loading the scene on my PC at home, but same difference there. - Ronald. On 1/15/2013 06:48, ivan t wrote: Hi Ronald, Just a curiosity , are you able to open the file in another machine ? Thanks Ivan On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: I was able to retrieve some crucial bits from the corrupted scene with the Journal File and reloading the scene several times, so not everything is lost. Thanks for the tip Rob, and for the help everyone. cheers, - Ronald On 1/11/2013 18:54, Toonafish wrote: Thanks, I'll need to give it a shot if I don't want to loose a days work. Seems like all backups are corrupt as well. The weird thing is I was able to load the last backup scene, and saved it under a new name. Then started redoing what was lost. But when reloading the redo scene Softimage crashes again, and now I can also no longer load any of the backuped scenes I could retrieve one of just 20 minutes ago. A scene that was fine and has not been changed is suddenly corrupt...it's voodoo I tell you. Gonna check it tomorrow, I suspect I need some beer as well ;-) Have a nice weekend. - Ronald On 1/11/2013 18:33, Rob Chapman wrote: Ronald think you just give the path for the journal - default is nothing.. yes friday, drinking beer eating crisps time in the office! :D its only emergency like scene crashing if you have a client deadline! hope it works for you but its not a magic solution, eg Fabrice here said 2 out 10 times success rate On 11 January 2013 17:27, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: in preferencesdata management as far as I remember when I last had this and was helped, it creates a text file that tells you what models are loading and then on the next load it skips the ones that it finds bad? Is that the Recovery Journal file ? Do you remember where softimage writes the text file ? its a shot in the dark at least you do realise its friday 5pm though and this kind of stuff is *meant* to happen. I smell a conspiracy ;-) - Ronald
RE: Scene crash on load
I had the same issue. Do you have something interesting plugin or addon in use? I used some extrude addons, that made my life a nightmare. I renamed the user folder of Softimage, and started Softimage. It made a brand new environment (preferences, etc) and tried to load the scene. Also try disable all operator in Scene debugging, and see if it loads. And another idea, frequently save important stuff in emdl format, or fbx, or dotxsi... -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Toonafish Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 5:53 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Scene crash on load I have a scene that suddenly crashes on load. And when I try to merge it with a new scene Softimage crashes to the desktop as well. is there any other secret solution that might save me a few hours of work ? If only we could save scenes in ASCII SI 2013 SP 1 / Win 7 64bit Thanks, - Ronald
Re: Scene crash on load
I was able to retrieve some crucial bits from the corrupted scene with the Journal File and reloading the scene several times, so not everything is lost. Thanks for the tip Rob, and for the help everyone. cheers, - Ronald On 1/11/2013 18:54, Toonafish wrote: Thanks, I'll need to give it a shot if I don't want to loose a days work. Seems like all backups are corrupt as well. The weird thing is I was able to load the last backup scene, and saved it under a new name. Then started redoing what was lost. But when reloading the redo scene Softimage crashes again, and now I can also no longer load any of the backuped scenes I could retrieve one of just 20 minutes ago. A scene that was fine and has not been changed is suddenly corrupt...it's voodoo I tell you. Gonna check it tomorrow, I suspect I need some beer as well ;-) Have a nice weekend. - Ronald On 1/11/2013 18:33, Rob Chapman wrote: Ronald think you just give the path for the journal - default is nothing.. yes friday, drinking beer eating crisps time in the office! :D its only emergency like scene crashing if you have a client deadline! hope it works for you but its not a magic solution, eg Fabrice here said 2 out 10 times success rate On 11 January 2013 17:27, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl mailto:ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: in preferencesdata management as far as I remember when I last had this and was helped, it creates a text file that tells you what models are loading and then on the next load it skips the ones that it finds bad? Is that the Recovery Journal file ? Do you remember where softimage writes the text file ? its a shot in the dark at least you do realise its friday 5pm though and this kind of stuff is *meant* to happen. I smell a conspiracy ;-) - Ronald
Re: Scene crash on load
Hi Ronald, Just a curiosity , are you able to open the file in another machine ? Thanks Ivan On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: I was able to retrieve some crucial bits from the corrupted scene with the Journal File and reloading the scene several times, so not everything is lost. Thanks for the tip Rob, and for the help everyone. cheers, - Ronald On 1/11/2013 18:54, Toonafish wrote: Thanks, I'll need to give it a shot if I don't want to loose a days work. Seems like all backups are corrupt as well. The weird thing is I was able to load the last backup scene, and saved it under a new name. Then started redoing what was lost. But when reloading the redo scene Softimage crashes again, and now I can also no longer load any of the backuped scenes I could retrieve one of just 20 minutes ago. A scene that was fine and has not been changed is suddenly corrupt...it's voodoo I tell you. Gonna check it tomorrow, I suspect I need some beer as well ;-) Have a nice weekend. - Ronald On 1/11/2013 18:33, Rob Chapman wrote: Ronald think you just give the path for the journal - default is nothing.. yes friday, drinking beer eating crisps time in the office! :D its only emergency like scene crashing if you have a client deadline! hope it works for you but its not a magic solution, eg Fabrice here said 2 out 10 times success rate On 11 January 2013 17:27, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: in preferencesdata management as far as I remember when I last had this and was helped, it creates a text file that tells you what models are loading and then on the next load it skips the ones that it finds bad? Is that the Recovery Journal file ? Do you remember where softimage writes the text file ? its a shot in the dark at least you do realise its friday 5pm though and this kind of stuff is *meant* to happen. I smell a conspiracy ;-) - Ronald
Re: Scene crash on load
Did you also mute/hide the viewports, and enable the debugging options? http://wp.me/powV4-W0 Other than that, there's no secret solution (if there is, nobody ever told me when I was at Soft). On 11/01/2013 11:52 AM, Toonafish wrote: I have a scene that suddenly crashes on load. And when I try to merge it with a new scene Softimage crashes to the desktop as well. is there any other secret solution that might save me a few hours of work ? If only we could save scenes in ASCII SI 2013 SP 1 / Win 7 64bit Thanks, - Ronald
Re: Scene crash on load
Oh I thought the 'enable debugging' was the secret solution? in preferencesdata management as far as I remember when I last had this and was helped, it creates a text file that tells you what models are loading and then on the next load it skips the ones that it finds bad? its a shot in the dark at least you do realise its friday 5pm though and this kind of stuff is *meant* to happen. best Rob On 11 January 2013 16:56, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.com wrote: Did you also mute/hide the viewports, and enable the debugging options? http://wp.me/powV4-W0 Other than that, there's no secret solution (if there is, nobody ever told me when I was at Soft). On 11/01/2013 11:52 AM, Toonafish wrote: I have a scene that suddenly crashes on load. And when I try to merge it with a new scene Softimage crashes to the desktop as well. is there any other secret solution that might save me a few hours of work ? If only we could save scenes in ASCII SI 2013 SP 1 / Win 7 64bit Thanks, - Ronald
Re: Scene crash on load
Thanks Stephen, didn't help either. Better start over from the last backup. - Ronald On 1/11/2013 17:56, Stephen Blair wrote: Did you also mute/hide the viewports, and enable the debugging options? http://wp.me/powV4-W0 Other than that, there's no secret solution (if there is, nobody ever told me when I was at Soft). On 11/01/2013 11:52 AM, Toonafish wrote: I have a scene that suddenly crashes on load. And when I try to merge it with a new scene Softimage crashes to the desktop as well. is there any other secret solution that might save me a few hours of work ? If only we could save scenes in ASCII SI 2013 SP 1 / Win 7 64bit Thanks, - Ronald
Re: Scene crash on load
Ronald think you just give the path for the journal - default is nothing.. yes friday, drinking beer eating crisps time in the office! :D its only emergency like scene crashing if you have a client deadline! hope it works for you but its not a magic solution, eg Fabrice here said 2 out 10 times success rate On 11 January 2013 17:27, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: in preferencesdata management as far as I remember when I last had this and was helped, it creates a text file that tells you what models are loading and then on the next load it skips the ones that it finds bad? Is that the Recovery Journal file ? Do you remember where softimage writes the text file ? its a shot in the dark at least you do realise its friday 5pm though and this kind of stuff is *meant* to happen. I smell a conspiracy ;-) - Ronald
Re: Scene crash on load
Thanks, I'll need to give it a shot if I don't want to loose a days work. Seems like all backups are corrupt as well. The weird thing is I was able to load the last backup scene, and saved it under a new name. Then started redoing what was lost. But when reloading the redo scene Softimage crashes again, and now I can also no longer load any of the backuped scenes I could retrieve one of just 20 minutes ago. A scene that was fine and has not been changed is suddenly corrupt...it's voodoo I tell you. Gonna check it tomorrow, I suspect I need some beer as well ;-) Have a nice weekend. - Ronald On 1/11/2013 18:33, Rob Chapman wrote: Ronald think you just give the path for the journal - default is nothing.. yes friday, drinking beer eating crisps time in the office! :D its only emergency like scene crashing if you have a client deadline! hope it works for you but its not a magic solution, eg Fabrice here said 2 out 10 times success rate On 11 January 2013 17:27, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl mailto:ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: in preferencesdata management as far as I remember when I last had this and was helped, it creates a text file that tells you what models are loading and then on the next load it skips the ones that it finds bad? Is that the Recovery Journal file ? Do you remember where softimage writes the text file ? its a shot in the dark at least you do realise its friday 5pm though and this kind of stuff is *meant* to happen. I smell a conspiracy ;-) - Ronald
Re: Scene crash on load
Also, check if your scene is more than 2gb in size on your hard drive/network. If it is, it won't open no matter what you do. Good luck :) Js Guillemette // SHED Artiste 3D 1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC) H3A 1P8 T 514 849-1555 F 514 849-5025 WWW.SHEDMTL.COM On 11/01/2013 12:33 PM, Rob Chapman wrote: Ronald think you just give the path for the journal - default is nothing.. yes friday, drinking beer eating crisps time in the office! :D its only emergency like scene crashing if you have a client deadline! hope it works for you but its not a magic solution, eg Fabrice here said 2 out 10 times success rate On 11 January 2013 17:27, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl mailto:ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: in preferencesdata management as far as I remember when I last had this and was helped, it creates a text file that tells you what models are loading and then on the next load it skips the ones that it finds bad? Is that the Recovery Journal file ? Do you remember where softimage writes the text file ? its a shot in the dark at least you do realise its friday 5pm though and this kind of stuff is *meant* to happen. I smell a conspiracy ;-) - Ronald
RE: Scene crash on load
I've seem to recall something along these lines when a scene had been loaded up with and worked on with the wrong workgroup; specifically, one for an older version of Soft. Have you made any changes to the workgroups? Best of luck with it Neil From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Toonafish Sent: 11 January 2013 17:55 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Scene crash on load Thanks, I'll need to give it a shot if I don't want to loose a days work. Seems like all backups are corrupt as well. The weird thing is I was able to load the last backup scene, and saved it under a new name. Then started redoing what was lost. But when reloading the redo scene Softimage crashes again, and now I can also no longer load any of the backuped scenes I could retrieve one of just 20 minutes ago. A scene that was fine and has not been changed is suddenly corrupt...it's voodoo I tell you. Gonna check it tomorrow, I suspect I need some beer as well ;-) Have a nice weekend. - Ronald On 1/11/2013 18:33, Rob Chapman wrote: Ronald think you just give the path for the journal - default is nothing.. yes friday, drinking beer eating crisps time in the office! :D its only emergency like scene crashing if you have a client deadline! hope it works for you but its not a magic solution, eg Fabrice here said 2 out 10 times success rate On 11 January 2013 17:27, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: in preferencesdata management as far as I remember when I last had this and was helped, it creates a text file that tells you what models are loading and then on the next load it skips the ones that it finds bad? Is that the Recovery Journal file ? Do you remember where softimage writes the text file ? its a shot in the dark at least you do realise its friday 5pm though and this kind of stuff is *meant* to happen. I smell a conspiracy ;-) - Ronald
Re: Scene crash on load
Neh, it's about 5 Mb. But thanks. On 1/11/2013 19:15, Jean-Sebastien Guillemette wrote: Also, check if your scene is more than 2gb in size on your hard drive/network. If it is, it won't open no matter what you do. Good luck :) Js Guillemette // SHED Artiste 3D 1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC) H3A 1P8 T 514 849-1555 F 514 849-5025 WWW.SHEDMTL.COM On 11/01/2013 12:33 PM, Rob Chapman wrote: Ronald think you just give the path for the journal - default is nothing.. yes friday, drinking beer eating crisps time in the office! :D its only emergency like scene crashing if you have a client deadline! hope it works for you but its not a magic solution, eg Fabrice here said 2 out 10 times success rate On 11 January 2013 17:27, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl mailto:ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: in preferencesdata management as far as I remember when I last had this and was helped, it creates a text file that tells you what models are loading and then on the next load it skips the ones that it finds bad? Is that the Recovery Journal file ? Do you remember where softimage writes the text file ? its a shot in the dark at least you do realise its friday 5pm though and this kind of stuff is *meant* to happen. I smell a conspiracy ;-) - Ronald -- Ronald van Vemden --- 3D Graphics Animation Cyberfish Laboratories | www.cyberfish.nl Toonafish | www.toonafish.nl tel. +31(0)20 5289291 fax +31(0)20 5289292 email: ron...@toonafish.nl
RE: Scene crash on load
Maybe mentioned before, but try renaming your user prefs folder C:\Users\...\Autodesk\Softimage_20xx Soft will re-create fresh ones at start-up.
RE: Scene crash on load
It is worth trying the disconnect from workgroup thing, and another thing to try is to have the ICE tree window open, and then failing that try render tree and on to material manager. S. Sandy Sutherlandmailto:sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za | Technical Supervisor [http://triggerfish.co.za/en/wp-content/uploads/udf_foundry/images/logo.png] http://triggerfish.co.za/en [http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v2/ym/x/lFV-lsMcC_0.png] http://www.facebook.com/triggerfishanimation [https://si0.twimg.com/a/1349296073/images/resources/twitter-bird-white-on-blue.png] http://www.twitter.com/triggerfishza From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Neil Coleman [neil.cole...@primefocusworld.com] Sent: 11 January 2013 20:18 To: ron...@toonafish.nl; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Scene crash on load I’ve seem to recall something along these lines when a scene had been loaded up with and worked on with the wrong workgroup; specifically, one for an older version of Soft. Have you made any changes to the workgroups? Best of luck with it Neil From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Toonafish Sent: 11 January 2013 17:55 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Scene crash on load Thanks, I'll need to give it a shot if I don't want to loose a days work. Seems like all backups are corrupt as well. The weird thing is I was able to load the last backup scene, and saved it under a new name. Then started redoing what was lost. But when reloading the redo scene Softimage crashes again, and now I can also no longer load any of the backuped scenes I could retrieve one of just 20 minutes ago. A scene that was fine and has not been changed is suddenly corrupt...it's voodoo I tell you. Gonna check it tomorrow, I suspect I need some beer as well ;-) Have a nice weekend. - Ronald On 1/11/2013 18:33, Rob Chapman wrote: Ronald think you just give the path for the journal - default is nothing.. yes friday, drinking beer eating crisps time in the office! :D its only emergency like scene crashing if you have a client deadline! hope it works for you but its not a magic solution, eg Fabrice here said 2 out 10 times success rate On 11 January 2013 17:27, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nlmailto:ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: in preferencesdata management as far as I remember when I last had this and was helped, it creates a text file that tells you what models are loading and then on the next load it skips the ones that it finds bad? Is that the Recovery Journal file ? Do you remember where softimage writes the text file ? its a shot in the dark at least you do realise its friday 5pm though and this kind of stuff is *meant* to happen. I smell a conspiracy ;-) - Ronald
Re: Scene crash on load
Thanks Neil, I've made no changes to workgroups as far as I can recall. But I'll double check it tomorrow. On 1/11/2013 19:18, Neil Coleman wrote: I've seem to recall something along these lines when a scene had been loaded up with and worked on with the wrong workgroup; specifically, one for an older version of Soft. Have you made any changes to the workgroups? Best of luck with it Neil *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Toonafish *Sent:* 11 January 2013 17:55 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Scene crash on load Thanks, I'll need to give it a shot if I don't want to loose a days work. Seems like all backups are corrupt as well. The weird thing is I was able to load the last backup scene, and saved it under a new name. Then started redoing what was lost. But when reloading the redo scene Softimage crashes again, and now I can also no longer load any of the backuped scenes I could retrieve one of just 20 minutes ago. A scene that was fine and has not been changed is suddenly corrupt...it's voodoo I tell you. Gonna check it tomorrow, I suspect I need some beer as well ;-) Have a nice weekend. - Ronald On 1/11/2013 18:33, Rob Chapman wrote: Ronald think you just give the path for the journal - default is nothing.. yes friday, drinking beer eating crisps time in the office! :D its only emergency like scene crashing if you have a client deadline! hope it works for you but its not a magic solution, eg Fabrice here said 2 out 10 times success rate On 11 January 2013 17:27, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl mailto:ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: in preferencesdata management as far as I remember when I last had this and was helped, it creates a text file that tells you what models are loading and then on the next load it skips the ones that it finds bad? Is that the Recovery Journal file ? Do you remember where softimage writes the text file ? its a shot in the dark at least you do realise its friday 5pm though and this kind of stuff is *meant* to happen. I smell a conspiracy ;-) - Ronald -- Ronald van Vemden --- 3D Graphics Animation Cyberfish Laboratories |www.cyberfish.nl Toonafish |www.toonafish.nl tel. +31(0)20 5289291 fax +31(0)20 5289292 email:ron...@toonafish.nl
Re: Scene crash on load
I'll give it a shot. Thanks Fabrice. - Ronald On 1/11/2013 19:27, Fabrice Altman wrote: Maybe mentioned before, but try renaming your user prefs folder C:\Users\...\Autodesk\Softimage_20xx Soft will re-create fresh ones at start-up.
Re: Scene crash on load
If you have Icecache, try to delete them. It happened to me last year, the cache on file node tried to read caches when the scn loaded. After icecaches was deleted, the scn reopen correctly... Just an idea like that, if you have ice cache... On 1/11/2013 1:26 PM, Toonafish wrote: Neh, it's about 5 Mb. But thanks. On 1/11/2013 19:15, Jean-Sebastien Guillemette wrote: Also, check if your scene is more than 2gb in size on your hard drive/network. If it is, it won't open no matter what you do. Good luck :) Js Guillemette // SHED Artiste 3D 1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC) H3A 1P8 T 514 849-1555 F 514 849-5025 WWW.SHEDMTL.COM On 11/01/2013 12:33 PM, Rob Chapman wrote: Ronald think you just give the path for the journal - default is nothing.. yes friday, drinking beer eating crisps time in the office! :D its only emergency like scene crashing if you have a client deadline! hope it works for you but its not a magic solution, eg Fabrice here said 2 out 10 times success rate On 11 January 2013 17:27, Toonafish ron...@toonafish.nl mailto:ron...@toonafish.nl wrote: in preferencesdata management as far as I remember when I last had this and was helped, it creates a text file that tells you what models are loading and then on the next load it skips the ones that it finds bad? Is that the Recovery Journal file ? Do you remember where softimage writes the text file ? its a shot in the dark at least you do realise its friday 5pm though and this kind of stuff is *meant* to happen. I smell a conspiracy ;-) - Ronald -- Ronald van Vemden --- 3D Graphics Animation Cyberfish Laboratories |www.cyberfish.nl Toonafish |www.toonafish.nl tel. +31(0)20 5289291 fax +31(0)20 5289292 email:ron...@toonafish.nl --
