Re: Solutions for running softimage on a MAC Station?

2014-01-22 Thread Votch
I have also had great success running softimage in vmware fusion. It's not
as fast as running in native bare-metal but it does work.

Votch Levi


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Simon Pickard m...@simonpickard.comwrote:

 I use VMWare Fusion for this. Works perfectly. Can't tell the difference
 between the VM or bootcamp.

 Funny that pretty much the fastest box I've run Softimage on is a Macbook
 Pro via a VM.
 Seems more stable than Linux as well. (runs for cover)


 On 22 January 2014 08:14, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.zawrote:

  Hi Jordi

  Will definitely need to test this myself.  Which version are you
  using? 8 or 9 ? We have an intro to 3D course (modelling , texturing,
 simple animation with a pre defined rig) which I was going to boot camp
 for. This may be an easier solution.






  --
 *From:* Jordi Bares [jordiba...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 21 January 2014 10:20 PM
 *To:* David Rivera; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 *Subject:* Re: Solutions for running softimage on a MAC Station?

  It worked for me perfectly using Parallels, speed wise is perfect but
 there is one thing to take in account, you need more memory as you are
 holding both operating systems plus the software, render data, etc…

  And two, you are sharing the memory card of your graphics card (you can
 fine-tune this) but I felt this was the key limiting factor for me, big big
 scenes overflow the 2Gb Graphcs card I have… :-P

  Other than that it is actually extremely fun to virtualise Softimage,
 you can share data between systems, your devices (usb keys for example) are
 going to be piped wherever you want… etc… truly amazing.

  And also you can make your mac video capture record your Softimage
 session and still the machine works perfectly so there is a lot of power
 under the bonet.

  So, my conclusion is that if you are going to do power user work it is
 better to bootcamp as a solution, if you are doing production work but does
 not require massive amount of graphics card memory you are better of with
 Parallels.

  hope that helps.

  Jordi Bares
 jordiba...@gmail.com

  On 21 Jan 2014, at 18:40, David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  Hi list, I talked to an IT guy the other day.
 He says that the MAC/WIN problem with softimage could be solved by
 virtualizing
 the MAC so Softimage can run in it.

  So I suggested that virtualization probably won´t take full advantage
 of the graphics
  card (as it is only an emulator of a safe display for windows in any
 case).
  So we agreed on making heavy-test-renders to see that point happen.

  In any case, are there any other solutions to installing Softimage into
 Mac stations?
  I´ve been googling and found no good - liable results.

  If anyone on the list with experience on network rendering / installing
 shares
  his/her experience on a softimage environment on MAC, would be greatly
 appreaciated.

  Thanks.
  Cheers.

  David.


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Re: Solutions for running softimage on a MAC Station?

2014-01-21 Thread Eric Lampi
The only way I have ever seen this done sucessfully is through bootcamp.

Eric

Freelance 3D and VFX animator

http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:40 PM, David Rivera 
activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi list, I talked to an IT guy the other day.
 He says that the MAC/WIN problem with softimage could be solved by
 virtualizing
 the MAC so Softimage can run in it.

 So I suggested that virtualization probably won´t take full advantage of
 the graphics
 card (as it is only an emulator of a safe display for windows in any
 case).
 So we agreed on making heavy-test-renders to see that point happen.

 In any case, are there any other solutions to installing Softimage into
 Mac stations?
 I´ve been googling and found no good - liable results.

 If anyone on the list with experience on network rendering / installing
 shares
 his/her experience on a softimage environment on MAC, would be greatly
 appreaciated.

 Thanks.
 Cheers.

 David.



Re: Solutions for running softimage on a MAC Station?

2014-01-21 Thread Pablo Tufaro

Parallel Desktop is a good one too!

P.

El 1/21/2014 3:43 PM, Eric Lampi escribió:

The only way I have ever seen this done sucessfully is through bootcamp.

Eric

Freelance 3D and VFX animator

http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:40 PM, David Rivera 
activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com 
mailto:activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com wrote:


Hi list, I talked to an IT guy the other day.
He says that the MAC/WIN problem with softimage could be solved by
virtualizing
the MAC so Softimage can run in it.

So I suggested that virtualization probably won´t take full
advantage of the graphics
card (as it is only an emulator of a safe display for windows in
any case).
So we agreed on making heavy-test-renders to see that point happen.

In any case, are there any other solutions to installing Softimage
into Mac stations?
I´ve been googling and found no good - liable results.

If anyone on the list with experience on network rendering /
installing shares
his/her experience on a softimage environment on MAC, would be
greatly appreaciated.

Thanks.
Cheers.

David.






RE: Solutions for running softimage on a MAC Station?

2014-01-21 Thread Angus Davidson
Hi David

As per Eric mail for really heavy duty Softimage the only real windows option 
is to bootcamp which then runs windows.

I have also had Linux runing on one of our older Mac Book Pros (no Mac OS X at 
all)  which ran Softimage very well.

Sadly a native mac version is unlikely which is a shame as I personally feel it 
would give Softimages sales a bit of a boost.



From: David Rivera [activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 21 January 2014 08:40 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Solutions for running softimage on a MAC Station?

Hi list, I talked to an IT guy the other day.
He says that the MAC/WIN problem with softimage could be solved by virtualizing
the MAC so Softimage can run in it.

So I suggested that virtualization probably won´t take full advantage of the 
graphics
card (as it is only an emulator of a safe display for windows in any case).
So we agreed on making heavy-test-renders to see that point happen.

In any case, are there any other solutions to installing Softimage into Mac 
stations?
I´ve been googling and found no good - liable results.

If anyone on the list with experience on network rendering / installing shares
his/her experience on a softimage environment on MAC, would be greatly 
appreaciated.

Thanks.
Cheers.

David.

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RE: Solutions for running softimage on a MAC Station?

2014-01-21 Thread Angus Davidson
Hi Jordi

Will definitely need to test this myself.  Which version are you  using? 8 or 9 
? We have an intro to 3D course (modelling , texturing, simple animation with a 
pre defined rig) which I was going to boot camp for. This may be an easier 
solution.







From: Jordi Bares [jordiba...@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 January 2014 10:20 PM
To: David Rivera; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Solutions for running softimage on a MAC Station?

It worked for me perfectly using Parallels, speed wise is perfect but there is 
one thing to take in account, you need more memory as you are holding both 
operating systems plus the software, render data, etc…

And two, you are sharing the memory card of your graphics card (you can 
fine-tune this) but I felt this was the key limiting factor for me, big big 
scenes overflow the 2Gb Graphcs card I have… :-P

Other than that it is actually extremely fun to virtualise Softimage, you can 
share data between systems, your devices (usb keys for example) are going to be 
piped wherever you want… etc… truly amazing.

And also you can make your mac video capture record your Softimage session and 
still the machine works perfectly so there is a lot of power under the bonet.

So, my conclusion is that if you are going to do power user work it is better 
to bootcamp as a solution, if you are doing production work but does not 
require massive amount of graphics card memory you are better of with Parallels.

hope that helps.

Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.commailto:jordiba...@gmail.com

On 21 Jan 2014, at 18:40, David Rivera 
activemotionpictu...@yahoo.commailto:activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi list, I talked to an IT guy the other day.
He says that the MAC/WIN problem with softimage could be solved by virtualizing
the MAC so Softimage can run in it.

So I suggested that virtualization probably won´t take full advantage of the 
graphics
card (as it is only an emulator of a safe display for windows in any case).
So we agreed on making heavy-test-renders to see that point happen.

In any case, are there any other solutions to installing Softimage into Mac 
stations?
I´ve been googling and found no good - liable results.

If anyone on the list with experience on network rendering / installing shares
his/her experience on a softimage environment on MAC, would be greatly 
appreaciated.

Thanks.
Cheers.

David.


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Re: Solutions for running softimage on a MAC Station?

2014-01-21 Thread Simon Pickard
I use VMWare Fusion for this. Works perfectly. Can't tell the difference
between the VM or bootcamp.

Funny that pretty much the fastest box I've run Softimage on is a Macbook
Pro via a VM.
Seems more stable than Linux as well. (runs for cover)


On 22 January 2014 08:14, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote:

  Hi Jordi

  Will definitely need to test this myself.  Which version are you  using?
 8 or 9 ? We have an intro to 3D course (modelling , texturing, simple
 animation with a pre defined rig) which I was going to boot camp for. This
 may be an easier solution.






  --
 *From:* Jordi Bares [jordiba...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 21 January 2014 10:20 PM
 *To:* David Rivera; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 *Subject:* Re: Solutions for running softimage on a MAC Station?

  It worked for me perfectly using Parallels, speed wise is perfect but
 there is one thing to take in account, you need more memory as you are
 holding both operating systems plus the software, render data, etc…

  And two, you are sharing the memory card of your graphics card (you can
 fine-tune this) but I felt this was the key limiting factor for me, big big
 scenes overflow the 2Gb Graphcs card I have… :-P

  Other than that it is actually extremely fun to virtualise Softimage,
 you can share data between systems, your devices (usb keys for example) are
 going to be piped wherever you want… etc… truly amazing.

  And also you can make your mac video capture record your Softimage
 session and still the machine works perfectly so there is a lot of power
 under the bonet.

  So, my conclusion is that if you are going to do power user work it is
 better to bootcamp as a solution, if you are doing production work but does
 not require massive amount of graphics card memory you are better of with
 Parallels.

  hope that helps.

  Jordi Bares
 jordiba...@gmail.com

  On 21 Jan 2014, at 18:40, David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  Hi list, I talked to an IT guy the other day.
 He says that the MAC/WIN problem with softimage could be solved by
 virtualizing
 the MAC so Softimage can run in it.

  So I suggested that virtualization probably won´t take full advantage of
 the graphics
  card (as it is only an emulator of a safe display for windows in any
 case).
  So we agreed on making heavy-test-renders to see that point happen.

  In any case, are there any other solutions to installing Softimage into
 Mac stations?
  I´ve been googling and found no good - liable results.

  If anyone on the list with experience on network rendering / installing
 shares
  his/her experience on a softimage environment on MAC, would be greatly
 appreaciated.

  Thanks.
  Cheers.

  David.


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Re: Solutions for running softimage on a MAC Station?

2014-01-21 Thread john clausing
i've worked extensively on Macs with Softimage for years..(windows via 
Bootcamp) 
Bootcamp is WAY better than Parallels for this.
never had an issue I could put down to the Mac when running Bootcamp.





On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:30 PM, Simon Pickard m...@simonpickard.com 
wrote:
 
I use VMWare Fusion for this. Works perfectly. Can't tell the difference 
between the VM or bootcamp.

Funny that pretty much the fastest box I've run Softimage on is a Macbook Pro 
via a VM.
Seems more stable than Linux as well. (runs for cover)




On 22 January 2014 08:14, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote:

Hi Jordi 


Will definitely need to test this myself.  Which version are you  using? 8 or 
9 ? We have an intro to 3D course (modelling , texturing, simple animation 
with a pre defined rig) which I was going to boot camp for. This may be an 
easier solution.














 
From: Jordi Bares [jordiba...@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 January 2014 10:20 PM
To: David Rivera; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Solutions for running softimage on a MAC Station?


It worked for me perfectly using Parallels, speed wise is perfect but there is 
one thing to take in account, you need more memory as you are holding both 
operating systems plus the software, render data, etc… 


And two, you are sharing the memory card of your graphics card (you can 
fine-tune this) but I felt this was the key limiting factor for me, big big 
scenes overflow the 2Gb Graphcs card I have… :-P


Other than that it is actually extremely fun to virtualise Softimage, you can 
share data between systems, your devices (usb keys for example) are going to 
be piped wherever you want… etc… truly amazing.


And also you can make your mac video capture record your Softimage session and 
still the machine works perfectly so there is a lot of power under the bonet.


So, my conclusion is that if you are going to do power user work it is better 
to bootcamp as a solution, if you are doing production work but does not 
require massive amount of graphics card memory you are better of with 
Parallels.


hope that helps.



Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.com

On 21 Jan 2014, at 18:40, David Rivera activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi list, I talked to an IT guy the other day.
He says that the MAC/WIN problem with softimage could be solved by 
virtualizing
the MAC so Softimage can run in it.


So I suggested that virtualization probably won´t take full advantage of the 
graphics
card (as it is only an emulator of a safe display for windows in any case).
So we agreed on making heavy-test-renders to see that point happen.


In any case, are there any other solutions to installing Softimage into Mac 
stations?
I´ve been googling and found no good - liable results.


If anyone on the list with experience on network rendering / installing shares
his/her experience on a softimage environment on MAC, would be greatly 
appreaciated.


Thanks.
Cheers.


David.


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Re: Solutions for running softimage on a MAC Station?

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Manning
Bootcamp all the way. Ran a 12-seat company on them for 3 years. Still run
2 of the workstations 3 years later. Nice things about the (old) Mac Pro
compared to almost any Windows machine: looks, build quality, near silence,
efficient cooling, plus you could put a Mac-friendly cheap graphics card in
and a real beast for Windows.

Right now they stay in Windows 98% of the time, running Softimage and
Redshift, with Titans for rendering.

I don't expect to be able to do the same for the new ones any time soon --
unfortunately, AMD/ATI cards are useless to me.