Re: Branding Solr+Lucene
What are the implications of this this new branding effort with the brands for the existing Lucene and Solr? Will the names Lucene and Solr cease in the mainstream in favor of a merged name? Cheers, Chris On 3/22/10 11:02 AM, Steven A Rowe sar...@syr.edu wrote: Now that Solr and Lucene live in the same space, there has been an on-going debate about what to call the merged entity. The names being mulled at this point include (variously sized) snippets of both Lucene's and Solr's names, and include LuSolr, Solcene, etc. (my current personal favorites along these lines: Sorlusr :) ). My guess is that Lucene partisans would like to see Solr just become a product (along with the Lucene java library) of the Lucene project. Judging from suggestions coming from Solr partisans, though, I don't think this will fly. So I think an entirely new name is needed for the merged project. Lucene and Solr would remain the product names of this newly named merged project. Along these lines, search.apache.org has been brought up a couple of times recently on the #lucene IRC channel. However (with all due respect to what-happens-on-#lucene-stays-on-#lucene (TM) ), Grant wrote in response to one of these suggestions this morning: prob. is Search is not a brand ASF likes names So in the spirit of a real name (i.e., an abstract symbol), I propose Srrrch (riffing off of Riot Grrrls and Solr's penchant for vowel droppings) Okay, not really. I do have one idea, though: thinking about the icons for Lucene (looks to me like the font used on 50's automobile brand logos) and Solr (a sun): car+sun = convertible = Ragtop. Fun, short, abstract, apolitical. Solr's and Lucene's icons could be easily embedded in a Ragtop logo. Steve ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++
Re: Branding Solr+Lucene
I'm confused... what is the need for a new name? The only place where there is a conflict is in the top level svn tree... What about something general like: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/dev or https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/project ryan On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Steven A Rowe sar...@syr.edu wrote: Now that Solr and Lucene live in the same space, there has been an on-going debate about what to call the merged entity. The names being mulled at this point include (variously sized) snippets of both Lucene's and Solr's names, and include LuSolr, Solcene, etc. (my current personal favorites along these lines: Sorlusr :) ). My guess is that Lucene partisans would like to see Solr just become a product (along with the Lucene java library) of the Lucene project. Judging from suggestions coming from Solr partisans, though, I don't think this will fly. So I think an entirely new name is needed for the merged project. Lucene and Solr would remain the product names of this newly named merged project. Along these lines, search.apache.org has been brought up a couple of times recently on the #lucene IRC channel. However (with all due respect to what-happens-on-#lucene-stays-on-#lucene (TM) ), Grant wrote in response to one of these suggestions this morning: prob. is Search is not a brand ASF likes names So in the spirit of a real name (i.e., an abstract symbol), I propose Srrrch (riffing off of Riot Grrrls and Solr's penchant for vowel droppings) Okay, not really. I do have one idea, though: thinking about the icons for Lucene (looks to me like the font used on 50's automobile brand logos) and Solr (a sun): car+sun = convertible = Ragtop. Fun, short, abstract, apolitical. Solr's and Lucene's icons could be easily embedded in a Ragtop logo. Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: java-dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: Branding Solr+Lucene
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Ryan McKinley ryan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm confused... what is the need for a new name? The only place where there is a conflict is in the top level svn tree... Agree, no need to re-brand. What about something general like: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/dev or https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/project Hmmm, that one isn't bad. -Yonik
Re: Branding Solr+Lucene
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Yonik Seeley ysee...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Ryan McKinley ryan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm confused... what is the need for a new name? The only place where there is a conflict is in the top level svn tree... Agree, no need to re-brand. I don't see any need to rebrand. The artifacts will still be called Lucene and Solr, regardless. In SVN, the natural thing to do is go with the momentum that puts solr under lucene. Insofar as the TLP, I would think that it would still be Lucene with two delivered artifacts.
RE: Branding Solr+Lucene
On 03/22/2010 at 2:30 PM, Yonik Seeley wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Ryan McKinley ryan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm confused... what is the need for a new name? The only place where there is a conflict is in the top level svn tree... Agree, no need to re-brand. Hmm, I've apparently misunderestimated the name-mooting that's been echoing around lately. Since name can refer to a bunch of partially overlapping things (Apache TLP name; svn directory name; development project name; product name; etc.): - Lucene will remain the name of the Apache TLP hosting both the Lucene-Java product and the Solr product. - Solr, while ceasing to refer to a stand-alone development sub-project, will continue to be a product, with no change in its user-facing *product* communications; Solr's downloadable artifacts, the wiki, the website, and the solr-user mailing list will remain as-is. (The website javadocs will need re-jiggering, though, I'd guess.) Any disagreement? Steve
