Re: Is Solr ready for graduation?
On 1/3/07, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I'd say definitely ask Lucene first. (And in general ask the accepting TLP first, before asking the Incubator). +1 from me to starting the discussion, and +1 for graduating Same opinion on all points here. -Bertrand
Re: Is Solr ready for graduation?
And, of course, likewise. Solr is more than ready to get voted on for graduation. Erik On Jan 4, 2007, at 4:21 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On 1/3/07, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I'd say definitely ask Lucene first. (And in general ask the accepting TLP first, before asking the Incubator). +1 from me to starting the discussion, and +1 for graduating Same opinion on all points here. -Bertrand
Re: Is Solr ready for graduation?
+1 on going for graduation. Bill On 1/4/07, Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, of course, likewise. Solr is more than ready to get voted on for graduation. Erik On Jan 4, 2007, at 4:21 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On 1/3/07, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I'd say definitely ask Lucene first. (And in general ask the accepting TLP first, before asking the Incubator). +1 from me to starting the discussion, and +1 for graduating Same opinion on all points here. -Bertrand
Re: Is Solr ready for graduation?
Hi, For the curious, here's what votes will be needed and what's binding in them. It may seem like a long road, but don't be discouraged: for a project like Solr, there's largely consensus so these votes are quick and painless. First, the Solr PPMC must approve the graduation request. In this vote, Solr PPMC members' votes are binding. Unless I'm mistaken, right now all Solr committers are also PPMC members, or close to it. Next, the adopting PMC (in this case Lucene) must vote to accept Solr. In that vote, only Lucene PMC members' votes are binding; you can see those people at http://lucene.apache.org/who.html#Lucene+PMC . Finally, after the Lucene PMC approves, we ask the Incubator PMC. In that vote, Incubator only PMC members' votes are binding. You can see that list of people at http://incubator.apache.org/whoweare.html . You will note at least several people (such as Yonik and Erik Hatcher) will have binding votes in more than one of the above votes. That's fine, it's even expected, e.g. from mentors. They can wear multiple hats without (hopefully) acquiring some clinical disease. Yoav On 1/4/07, Bill Au [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 on going for graduation. Bill On 1/4/07, Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, of course, likewise. Solr is more than ready to get voted on for graduation. Erik On Jan 4, 2007, at 4:21 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On 1/3/07, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I'd say definitely ask Lucene first. (And in general ask the accepting TLP first, before asking the Incubator). +1 from me to starting the discussion, and +1 for graduating Same opinion on all points here. -Bertrand
Re: Is Solr ready for graduation?
Thanks for the summary Yoav, This thread looks like it's the first vote (unless anyone objects), so here's my +1 for graduation. -Yonik On 1/4/07, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, For the curious, here's what votes will be needed and what's binding in them. It may seem like a long road, but don't be discouraged: for a project like Solr, there's largely consensus so these votes are quick and painless. First, the Solr PPMC must approve the graduation request. In this vote, Solr PPMC members' votes are binding. Unless I'm mistaken, right now all Solr committers are also PPMC members, or close to it. Next, the adopting PMC (in this case Lucene) must vote to accept Solr. In that vote, only Lucene PMC members' votes are binding; you can see those people at http://lucene.apache.org/who.html#Lucene+PMC . Finally, after the Lucene PMC approves, we ask the Incubator PMC. In that vote, Incubator only PMC members' votes are binding. You can see that list of people at http://incubator.apache.org/whoweare.html . You will note at least several people (such as Yonik and Erik Hatcher) will have binding votes in more than one of the above votes. That's fine, it's even expected, e.g. from mentors. They can wear multiple hats without (hopefully) acquiring some clinical disease. Yoav On 1/4/07, Bill Au [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 on going for graduation. Bill On 1/4/07, Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, of course, likewise. Solr is more than ready to get voted on for graduation. Erik On Jan 4, 2007, at 4:21 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On 1/3/07, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I'd say definitely ask Lucene first. (And in general ask the accepting TLP first, before asking the Incubator). +1 from me to starting the discussion, and +1 for graduating Same opinion on all points here. -Bertrand
Re: Is Solr ready for graduation?
On 1/4/07, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...This thread looks like it's the first vote (unless anyone objects), so here's my +1 for graduation... I hate to be formal, but I'd much prefer voting to happen in clearly identified [VOTE] threads. As the community grows, or when people get busy, this helps in not missing these all-important threads. -Bertrand
Re: Is Solr ready for graduation?
Hi, I'd say definitely ask Lucene first. (And in general ask the accepting TLP first, before asking the Incubator). +1 from me to starting the discussion, and +1 for graduating. Yoav On 1/3/07, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do people think? As you may know, graduation is not so much about code maturity/quality as it is about community (in addition to making sure all the legal IP issues are covered). The primary hurdle that Solr faced starting from a closed-source project was building a diverse community (including independent committers). Another recent Incubator recommendation was to make a release, to show we knew the process and to uncover any potential IP or licensing issues. With the release of Solr 1.1, we've now covered that base as well. The next steps would be to get approval from both the Incubator PMC and the Lucene PMC (the order is fuzzy, but this http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Exiting+the+Incubator the Incubator PMC SHALL provide a recommendation to the TLP that the Podling is ready to escalate. suggests that it's the Incubator that should go first). *But*, the incubation checklist suggests otherwize: If graduating to an existing PMC, has the PMC voted to accept it? http://incubator.apache.org/projects/solr.html The latter makes more sense to me, so I'd vote to ask the Lucene PMC first if we decide we are ready. -Yonik
Re: Is Solr ready for graduation?
: +1 from me to starting the discussion, and +1 for graduating. ditto: +1 for starting the process (not sure if i get a vote in on the actual graduation question :)) -Hoss
