Re: [Spacewalk-list] newbie question

[Avi Miller]

Hi,

> On 10 Apr 2017, at 9:54 pm, Robin Beardsley  wrote:
> 
> My question is can I built channels and repositories on my Oracle Linux 7 
> server for my Centos 7 hosts or do I need to have a separate Spacewalk server 
> for the Centos clients?

You can add CentOS channels and repositories to your Oracle Linux based 
Spacewalk instance with no issues. I have my Spacewalk instance handling Oracle 
Linux, CentOS and Fedora, for example. However, Oracle support will not cover 
the non-Oracle bits, though.

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Re: [Spacewalk-list] newbie question

[Rick van der Linde]

You will probably need to configure parent/child channels for your CentOS 
repositories.



Rick



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Afzender: Matthias Gruber 
Verstuurd: Maandag 10 April 2017 14:03
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Onderwerp: [Spacewalk-list] Antwort: newbie question

Hi!

No you dont have to setup a seperate SpaceWalk-Server for CentOS, that should 
work wih your OEL-SpaceWalk

cheers
Matthias



Von:        Robin Beardsley 
An:        "spacewalk-list@redhat.com" 
Datum:        10.04.2017 13:55
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I have a Spacewalk server running Oracle Linux 7 with 10 Oracle Linux clients.  
Everything is running great so far and I’m syncing the repo’s at night without 
issues.
I also have 3 Centos 7 clients that I would like to add.  
 
My question is can I built channels and repositories on my Oracle Linux 7 
server for my Centos 7 hosts or do I need to have a separate Spacewalk server 
for the Centos clients?
 
Thanks for any recommendations.
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[Spacewalk-list] newbie question

[Robin Beardsley]

I have a Spacewalk server running Oracle Linux 7 with 10 Oracle Linux clients.  
Everything is running great so far and I'm syncing the repo's at night without 
issues.
I also have 3 Centos 7 clients that I would like to add.

My question is can I built channels and repositories on my Oracle Linux 7 
server for my Centos 7 hosts or do I need to have a separate Spacewalk server 
for the Centos clients?

Thanks for any recommendations.

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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Newbie, question about channels

[john miller]

There is no way I am aware of to do both at the same time. Configurations
and packages are managed separately.

Making sure all 5 ( or 100, or 1000) systems have the same configuration
files should not be too hard.

   1. put all of the configuration files you want to maintain in a
   configuration channel
   2. use the System Set Manager to deploy the files to all the machines.
   3. difference counts will be displayed in the 'Configs' column of the
   systems overview page.

For your 5 systems you can use the profile compare feature in
(Systems->Software->Packages->Profiles) but this only works for one system
at a time. The kickstarting feature described by Ian would work for
multiple systems at a time during initial deployment but not after.

As far as I know there is no good way to make sure a 1000 systems have the
same packages installed. Somebody could install a package and as long as
there is not a more up to date version in one of the subscribed channels I
would never know. Somebody could remove pacakges and I would never know. Is
there a package profile compare in SSM I am not aware of ?
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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Newbie, question about channels

[Jason M. Nielsen]

I am not aware of a way to "sync configuration files" but if you push 
all the configs you want to maintain into a channel(s) you can simply 
then deploy all files from those configuration channels to all hosts and 
be confident they will all be the same. Keep in mind though there are 
some configuration file issues such as rollbacks do strange things (ie: 
rollbacks in general will redeploy all configuration files). The only 
way I have seen around this is to lock the system, rollback, unschedule 
the bits of the rollback you do not want, unlock the system.


The sync'ing of package profiles (whether saved or to an existing 
system) work very nicely. I have used it many times here. I have even 
used it in a "rollback" process to pull a machine back to an old 
configuration state known to be "ok" that only existed on a different 
but currently operational server.


On 12/11/2011 09:29 PM, Ian Forde wrote:

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:59 AM, David Greco
  wrote:


I have 5 RH 5 servers at the moment that need to be configured similiarly. I 
have setup one of these exactly the way I like, and would like the 4 others to 
be setup similiarly. Same packages installed, same configuration, etc. Is this 
something satellite is good for? I browsed the documentation but so no mention 
of how to take an existing system, all its configs and packages, and create a 
channel that other systems can update from.


Regarding the packages, you could do it with a channel or a package
profile.  I'd recommend the latter.  Once the first system that you
want done is built (which you say you've completed), ensure that it's
registered to Spacewalk.  Then you can build the other 4 systems, and
have them sync package profiles to that of the first system.  It's one
of the advanced options in Kickstart.  I'd tell you exactly where, but
my Spacewalk server is currently down in anticipation of the CentOS
6.1 upgrade that I'll be doing tonight. ;)

   -I

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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Newbie, question about channels

[Ian Forde]

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:59 AM, David Greco
 wrote:
>
> I have 5 RH 5 servers at the moment that need to be configured similiarly. I 
> have setup one of these exactly the way I like, and would like the 4 others 
> to be setup similiarly. Same packages installed, same configuration, etc. Is 
> this something satellite is good for? I browsed the documentation but so no 
> mention of how to take an existing system, all its configs and packages, and 
> create a channel that other systems can update from.

Regarding the packages, you could do it with a channel or a package
profile.  I'd recommend the latter.  Once the first system that you
want done is built (which you say you've completed), ensure that it's
registered to Spacewalk.  Then you can build the other 4 systems, and
have them sync package profiles to that of the first system.  It's one
of the advanced options in Kickstart.  I'd tell you exactly where, but
my Spacewalk server is currently down in anticipation of the CentOS
6.1 upgrade that I'll be doing tonight. ;)

  -I

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[Spacewalk-list] Newbie, question about channels

[David Greco]

I have 5 RH 5 servers at the moment that need to be configured similiarly. I 
have setup one of these exactly the way I like, and would like the 4 others to 
be setup similiarly. Same packages installed, same configuration, etc. Is this 
something satellite is good for? I browsed the documentation but so no mention 
of how to take an existing system, all its configs and packages, and create a 
channel that other systems can update from.

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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Newbie question: SpaceWalk RHEL4/5 and RHN

[Assaf Flatto]

The Oracle way is not an  option , as I was told from my boss .

and for the number are looking at approx 50 servers for the initial step.



On 18 Apr 2011, at 12:02, Kobus Bensch wrote:

> IMHO  the postgre support is very limited with Spacewalk and non-existent 
> with Satellite. I have opted for the Oracle db backend and found it to be a 
> lot more stable. Also from experience, i hard ever had to do anything with 
> the db once it is all up and running.
> 
> Besides, how many hosts do you want to manage? 
> 
> On 18/04/11 11:25, Assaf Flatto wrote:
>> 
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>> 
>> But can I run Spacewalk on a RH server with an RHN subscription , or do I 
>> have to run Satellite ? 
>> 
>> I prefer to use Spacewalk as i do not wish to work with the Oracle DB , but 
>> use the Postgressql Backend .
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 Apr 2011, at 07:45, Miroslav Suchy wrote:
>> 
>>> Dne 15.4.2011 20:45, Musayev, Ilya napsal(a):
 Hi All,
 
 Apology if this a repeat of what may have been asked, I’m spacewalk
 newbie and would like to know if we can use spacewalk with redhat hosts
 and RHN.
>>> No, you can not.
>>> 
 My understanding from speaking to redhat folks is that spacewalk is for
 fedora and centos distros. While centos is a replica of rhel, I wonder
 why cant rhel be used. Also, can I directly subscribe to RHN via
 spacewalk or do I need to download and import channels by some other means.
>>> We make it as advantage of RHN Satellite.
>>> 
>>> If you want to use Spacewalk with RHN, you can download packages and then 
>>> upload it to Spacewalk manually (or search archives as some people write 
>>> scripts for that). But if you want to use satellite-sync you can do that 
>>> only with license of RHN Satellite.
>>> 
>>> Miroslav Suchy
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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Newbie question: SpaceWalk RHEL4/5 and RHN

[Kobus Bensch]

  


IMHO  the postgre support is very limited with Spacewalk and
non-existent with Satellite. I have opted for the Oracle db backend
and found it to be a lot more stable. Also from experience, i hard
ever had to do anything with the db once it is all up and running.

Besides, how many hosts do you want to manage? 

On 18/04/11 11:25, Assaf Flatto wrote:

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But can I run Spacewalk on a RH server with an RHN subscription , or do I have to run Satellite ? 

I prefer to use Spacewalk as i do not wish to work with the Oracle DB , but use the Postgressql Backend .

 


On 18 Apr 2011, at 07:45, Miroslav Suchy wrote:


  
Dne 15.4.2011 20:45, Musayev, Ilya napsal(a):


  Hi All,

Apology if this a repeat of what may have been asked, I’m spacewalk
newbie and would like to know if we can use spacewalk with redhat hosts
and RHN.



No, you can not.



  My understanding from speaking to redhat folks is that spacewalk is for
fedora and centos distros. While centos is a replica of rhel, I wonder
why cant rhel be used. Also, can I directly subscribe to RHN via
spacewalk or do I need to download and import channels by some other means.



We make it as advantage of RHN Satellite.

If you want to use Spacewalk with RHN, you can download packages and then upload it to Spacewalk manually (or search archives as some people write scripts for that). But if you want to use satellite-sync you can do that only with license of RHN Satellite.

Miroslav Suchy

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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Newbie question: SpaceWalk RHEL4/5 and RHN

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But can I run Spacewalk on a RH server with an RHN subscription , or do I have 
to run Satellite ? 

I prefer to use Spacewalk as i do not wish to work with the Oracle DB , but use 
the Postgressql Backend .

 


On 18 Apr 2011, at 07:45, Miroslav Suchy wrote:

> Dne 15.4.2011 20:45, Musayev, Ilya napsal(a):
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Apology if this a repeat of what may have been asked, I’m spacewalk
>> newbie and would like to know if we can use spacewalk with redhat hosts
>> and RHN.
> 
> No, you can not.
> 
>> My understanding from speaking to redhat folks is that spacewalk is for
>> fedora and centos distros. While centos is a replica of rhel, I wonder
>> why cant rhel be used. Also, can I directly subscribe to RHN via
>> spacewalk or do I need to download and import channels by some other means.
> 
> We make it as advantage of RHN Satellite.
> 
> If you want to use Spacewalk with RHN, you can download packages and then 
> upload it to Spacewalk manually (or search archives as some people write 
> scripts for that). But if you want to use satellite-sync you can do that only 
> with license of RHN Satellite.
> 
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Re: [Spacewalk-list] Newbie question: SpaceWalk RHEL4/5 and RHN

[Miroslav Suchy]

Dne 15.4.2011 20:45, Musayev, Ilya napsal(a):

Hi All,

Apology if this a repeat of what may have been asked, I’m spacewalk
newbie and would like to know if we can use spacewalk with redhat hosts
and RHN.


No, you can not.


My understanding from speaking to redhat folks is that spacewalk is for
fedora and centos distros. While centos is a replica of rhel, I wonder
why cant rhel be used. Also, can I directly subscribe to RHN via
spacewalk or do I need to download and import channels by some other means.


We make it as advantage of RHN Satellite.

If you want to use Spacewalk with RHN, you can download packages and 
then upload it to Spacewalk manually (or search archives as some people 
write scripts for that). But if you want to use satellite-sync you can 
do that only with license of RHN Satellite.


Miroslav Suchy

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[Spacewalk-list] Newbie question: SpaceWalk RHEL4/5 and RHN

[Musayev, Ilya]

Hi All,

Apology if this a repeat of what may have been asked, I'm spacewalk newbie and 
would like to know if we can use spacewalk with redhat hosts and RHN.

My understanding from speaking to redhat folks is that spacewalk is for fedora 
and centos distros. While centos is a replica of rhel, I wonder why cant rhel 
be used. Also, can I directly subscribe to RHN via spacewalk or do I need to 
download and import channels by some other means.

Thanks
-ilya
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