Re: [SAtalk] (semi)automatic Razor reporting options? anyone don e it like thi s before?
If you use Windows and Outlook, try Cloudmark's Spamnet product. It's the commercial version of razor, and feeds the same backend database. I think it's still free to use. http://www.cloudmark.com As far as looking up status, there's no official way to do it. You could create a unique message, report it as spam, and then see what rating was assigned to it. But then again, does it really matter? On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 02:13:40PM +1030, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah.sadly we have winblows here and outhouse so spam will get modified as i forward it. i do have several unused mailboxes which fill with spam quite a bit and i tried to submit a mailbox full which i checked to be all spam to razor and it seemed to work, with a few perl errors here and there as it found a strange message or something. is there anyway to view the status of your account with which you submit with? like i've submitted 300 messages and 5 were new spam and the rest we're already there... --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
RE: [SAtalk] (semi)automatic Razor reporting options? anyone don e it like thi s before?
Chip Paswater wrote: If you use Windows and Outlook, try Cloudmark's Spamnet product. It's the commercial version of razor, and feeds the same backend database. I think it's still free to use. http://www.cloudmark.com No it's not free (subscription is $1.99 a month or something) but there is a free trial. They have a version for Outlook Express in beta now as well. -- Mat. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
RE: [SAtalk] (semi)automatic Razor reporting options? anyone don e it like thi s before?
Yers, they started to charge for it. i ran the beta for a long time and was very happy with it, but i needed to do something with the server, not on everyone's outlook. looks like anti-spam software will go the way of the virus with signatures updates and anti-spam build into anti-virus software?will be some pretty serious signature files tho. err, does razor keep a local copy of the database on the server and update it every so often or does it go off to the server for every message. seems like it would make more sense to set it up like updates and you go off every day (with a script) and grab the latest definition update thing which would build on a monthly build or something. new servers would grab the monthly build, then update to the daily one... -Original Message- From: Mathew Hendry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] (semi)automatic Razor reporting options? anyone don e it like thi s before? Chip Paswater wrote: If you use Windows and Outlook, try Cloudmark's Spamnet product. It's the commercial version of razor, and feeds the same backend database. I think it's still free to use. http://www.cloudmark.com No it's not free (subscription is $1.99 a month or something) but there is a free trial. They have a version for Outlook Express in beta now as well. -- Mat. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
RE: [SAtalk] (semi)automatic Razor reporting options? anyone don e it like thi s before?
Ah.sadly we have winblows here and outhouse so spam will get modified as i forward it. i do have several unused mailboxes which fill with spam quite a bit and i tried to submit a mailbox full which i checked to be all spam to razor and it seemed to work, with a few perl errors here and there as it found a strange message or something. is there anyway to view the status of your account with which you submit with? like i've submitted 300 messages and 5 were new spam and the rest we're already there... -Original Message- From: Chip Paswater [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] (semi)automatic Razor reporting options? anyone done it like thi s before? my problem is how would i deal with the FW: on the front of messages etc? perhaps i should write a little script that munges the mailbox and removes the FW: and the few extra lines in each message and the 's that get created. As far as razor goes, subject lines don't matter, so don't worry about appended FW or RE in your subject lines. However, the body of the message should be untouched. Don't try to strip out or whatever, because it's highly unlikely you'll be able to return the message to it's original composition. Instead, try to forward or bounce the message unedited. Mutt has this feature. also i thought what we should do is create a mailbox that is darn easy to guess, subscribe it to many spam lists somehow to get it full of spam and then have this automatically reported to razor. makeing sure that no-one uses it or sends any real mail to it? does this also sound viable? i have read that razor should only be submitted by humans so i wouldn't like to mess up the network by automatic stuff not working, but surely this is something that should be considered? That's called a spamtrap, and razor frowns on your auto-submitting spamtraps to them (as do other services like Spamcop). The best way to keep everyone happy is to human-review everything before you submit it. I maintain a spamtrap. It gets about 300 spams per day, and I submit them in batches after I've taken a look at them to make sure there's nothing collateral in there, and occasionally something DOES sneak in that is not spam. In fact, Spamcop turned off their quick reporting feature because too many people were reporting the latest Microsoft virus emails as spam. I can only assume this was a direct result of too many people auto submitting emails that came into their spamtrap. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
